ChipMusic.org - Defining Computationally Minimal Art, or taking the "8" out of "8-bit"

Re: Defining Computationally Minimal Art, or taking the "8" out of "8-bit"

2010-03-24T19:28:46Z

viznut: just read your essay, really great stuff! I agree that nostalgia isn't the main reason people like what you call computationally minimal art, and I think you have a lot that's interesting to say about the positive reasons people like it. I've also been thinking about what you discuss under the 'optimalism / reductivism' rubric--it would be cool to have a thread or two devoted to theoretical discussions like this.

Looking forward to reading the little-scale stuff.

Re: Defining Computationally Minimal Art, or taking the "8" out of "8-bit"

2010-03-23T21:20:16Z

viznut wrote:

So, I need to do a PDF release in order to make it "official", "acceptable", "citable" and so on?

Not necessarily - I think some people just prefer reading larger documents in PDF format instead of on a webpage - I know I do.

Re: Defining Computationally Minimal Art, or taking the "8" out of "8-bit"

2010-03-23T17:51:50Z

http://www.pelulamu.net/countercomplex/ - is the overview i think.
And here's some great demos he made: http://www.pelulamu.net/viznut/demos/ - definitely worth checking!

hi viznut! great work

Re: Defining Computationally Minimal Art, or taking the "8" out of "8-bit"

2010-03-23T14:52:51Z

viznut wrote:

. But I guess I'll want to do it the right way and put in some more references first. Some of my earlier texts (about the demoscene etc) might be worth PDFing as well.

oh link please. i'd love to read them

Re: Defining Computationally Minimal Art, or taking the "8" out of "8-bit"

2010-03-23T10:20:59Z

School? No, I dropped out of the university many years ago. But I do have this inner urge of integrating everything I care about into some larger and deeper philosophical framework, and every now and then I feel a desire to share my ideas with the rest of the world. I don't want to attention-whore the academic world, but it would be great to inspire and influence some academic circles as well.

So, I need to do a PDF release in order to make it "official", "acceptable", "citable" and so on? Funny, I had also been pondering about this "PDF psychology". But I guess I'll want to do it the right way and put in some more references first. Some of my earlier texts (about the demoscene etc) might be worth PDFing as well. And it might also be easier to get search engines like Google Scholar notice them if I had some properly-formatted PDFs available (:

Re: Defining Computationally Minimal Art, or taking the "8" out of "8-bit"

2010-03-23T02:40:13Z

DO IT!

Re: Defining Computationally Minimal Art, or taking the "8" out of "8-bit"

2010-03-23T00:00:36Z

Aww, amazing! I have written some kinda oddball papers for my philosophy major, and this is just more fuel for the fire. Papers I have written which are crazy include: The Merits of Cheese, The Martix and How We Know, Metaphysics and Portals (from the videogame), and The Ontological Import of the Nature of Space (related to thought experiments from who knows how many sci-fi movies). Now for a chiptune related paper... and perhaps a presentation. This is very inspiring!

Re: Defining Computationally Minimal Art, or taking the "8" out of "8-bit"

2010-03-22T17:47:03Z

Here are little-scale's contributions:

Authenticity and Emulation: Chiptune in the Early Twenty-first Century (ICMC 2008) (Paper and Presentation)
http://little-scale.blogspot.com/2008/0 … ne-in.html

EPROM Music (ACMC2009) (Poster)
http://little-scale.blogspot.com/2009/0 … music.html

Handheld Console Comparisons: Lateral Consumer Machines as Musical Instruments (ACMC 2007) (Paper and Presentation)
http://little-scale.blogspot.com/2008/0 … teral.html

Low Cost Physical Interfacing in Music Technology : Reasoning, Process and Realisation (2006) (Honours Thesis)
http://www.musicaustralia.org/apps/MA?f … 7707002613

Worlds Colliding?: Traditional Japanese and Western Music in the cult anime film “Ghost In the Shell” (JSAA 2005) (Paper and Presentation)
http://www.adelaide.edu.au/jsaa/panels/ … s_Arts.pdf

Re: Defining Computationally Minimal Art, or taking the "8" out of "8-bit"

2010-03-22T17:03:04Z

Sycamore Drive wrote:

I know little-scale has written a few.

that guy is a genius, i would love to read some of his thoughts on related subjects.

Re: Defining Computationally Minimal Art, or taking the "8" out of "8-bit"

2010-03-22T15:46:25Z

ant1 wrote:

... and copying it all to a text document is too hard for you?

Of course not, but it would be nice to have an official version.

I think it would be great for everyone to share these types of intelligent papers on chipmusic. I know little-scale has written a few.

Re: Defining Computationally Minimal Art, or taking the "8" out of "8-bit"

2010-03-22T15:04:56Z

Thought exercises = cool
Not-school-required thought exercises = very cool
Not-school-required thought exercises about low-bit gaming aesthetic = extremely cool

As a philosophy major and a big fan of philosophically-minded study of aesthetics, this is very nice work.

Re: Defining Computationally Minimal Art, or taking the "8" out of "8-bit"

2010-03-22T14:41:37Z

Read it

Didn't really get into the very last part (CMA Unplugged), and I have to admit I was starting to lose interest in "Psychological Considerations", but I was really into the beginning!

Overall, interesting read.

Was this for school? or fun?

edit:Investigated a bit more, seems like this was not for school. I like that you are doing thought exercises like this on your own time

Re: Defining Computationally Minimal Art, or taking the "8" out of "8-bit"

2010-03-22T12:39:58Z

... and copying it all to a text document is too hard for you?

Re: Defining Computationally Minimal Art, or taking the "8" out of "8-bit"

2010-03-22T12:16:07Z

Any chance of a proper PDF version of this? That website is hurting my eyes.

Re: Defining Computationally Minimal Art, or taking the "8" out of "8-bit"

2010-03-22T08:37:28Z

It was very interesting.