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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Ripped off by Djtransformer.com]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>IANAL, too, but I think what the ruling is saying is that such devices <em>can</em> be illegal, ie that the possibility of non-infringing use is not a blanket defence. The ruling merely sets a precedent. However, it would still be up to a court to judge in each individual case. If someone is offering cartridges alongside with items/services geared toward musicians, (prosound modifications, LSDj-MC2) I think it would be much easier to convince the court that you&#039;re not merely selling thinly veiled piracy devices.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[nitro2k01]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/nitro2k01</uri>
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			<updated>2013-03-10T16:22:37Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Ripped off by Djtransformer.com]]></title>
			<link rel="alternate" href="https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/159248/#p159248"/>
			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>not sure how the law reads, but from the article:</p><p>&quot;The court affirmed that game copiers first circumvent Nintendo&#039;s security systems before any non-infringing application can be played on Nintendo&#039;s handheld products&quot;</p><p>EMS carts aren&#039;t bypassing any sort of security parameter, nor do they modify it in some way like a modchip.&nbsp; granted, i&#039;m not in the UK, but it seems like the element which the courts took issue with (the intentional disabling/bypassing of the lockout/security whatevers) isn&#039;t an issue with this earlier generation of technology.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[kitsch]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/kitsch</uri>
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			<updated>2013-03-10T15:49:15Z</updated>
			<id>https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/159248/#p159248</id>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Ripped off by Djtransformer.com]]></title>
			<link rel="alternate" href="https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/159239/#p159239"/>
			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-10790835" target="_blank">http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-10790835</a></p><p>They mention DS and Wii specifically but (IANAL) I believe it applies to all copying devices.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[InactiveX]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/InactiveX</uri>
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			<updated>2013-03-10T09:18:33Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Ripped off by Djtransformer.com]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>InactiveX wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>DJTransformer is breaking UK law by offering EMS carts for sale.</p></blockquote></div><p>Source on that? Consolegoods (also UK based) has stopped offering EMS cartridges and is claiming that this is due to PayPal&#039;s policy, not the law. <br />As stated here: <a href="http://www.robwebb1.plus.com/gb/gb.htm" target="_blank">http://www.robwebb1.plus.com/gb/gb.htm</a></p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[nitro2k01]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/nitro2k01</uri>
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			<updated>2013-03-10T09:16:46Z</updated>
			<id>https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/159238/#p159238</id>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Ripped off by Djtransformer.com]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>InactiveX wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>DJTransformer is breaking UK law by offering EMS carts for sale.</p></blockquote></div><p>Really? Didn&#039;t know, why is that?</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Adhrast]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/Adhrast</uri>
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			<updated>2013-03-10T09:14:54Z</updated>
			<id>https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/159237/#p159237</id>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Ripped off by Djtransformer.com]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>DJTransformer is breaking UK law by offering EMS carts for sale.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[InactiveX]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/InactiveX</uri>
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			<updated>2013-03-10T09:04:09Z</updated>
			<id>https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/159236/#p159236</id>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Ripped off by Djtransformer.com]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>I&#039;ve had my money back, that&#039;s all that matters in the end.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Adhrast]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/Adhrast</uri>
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			<updated>2013-03-08T21:39:16Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Ripped off by Djtransformer.com]]></title>
			<link rel="alternate" href="https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/159040/#p159040"/>
			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>This appeared on the site &#039;&#039;Hi Haven&#039;t had the net for a month &gt;.&lt; but it seems to be back now. Will catch up with you all asap.&#039;&#039; but my order still hasn&#039;t shipped. Definitely going with Kitsch in the future.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[GDNGHTLMPLGHT]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/GDNGHTLMPLGHT</uri>
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			<updated>2013-03-08T20:15:23Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Ripped off by Djtransformer.com]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>Adhrast wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Being a teacher and/or travelling a lot is obviously perfectly fine.<br />The problem is, if you have a shop you have to tell your customer if and when you&#039;re not able to process the orders, because that&#039;s how you run a business.<br />That said, I hope I&#039;ll get my money back soon.</p><p>All in all, someone just earned a cutomer. I&#039;m looking at you kitsch <img src="https://chipmusic.org/forums/img/smilies/tongue.png" width="15" height="15" alt="tongue" /></p></blockquote></div><p> Kitsch is the man with the goods <img src="https://chipmusic.org/forums/img/smilies/wink.png" width="15" height="15" alt="wink" /></p><p>edit: never done me wrong <img src="https://chipmusic.org/forums/img/smilies/heart.gif" width="15" height="15" alt="heart" /></p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[b4by f4c3]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/b4by+f4c3</uri>
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			<updated>2013-03-01T18:42:49Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Ripped off by Djtransformer.com]]></title>
			<link rel="alternate" href="https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/158056/#p158056"/>
			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Being a teacher and/or travelling a lot is obviously perfectly fine.<br />The problem is, if you have a shop you have to tell your customer if and when you&#039;re not able to process the orders, because that&#039;s how you run a business.<br />That said, I hope I&#039;ll get my money back soon.</p><p>All in all, someone just earned a cutomer. I&#039;m looking at you kitsch <img src="https://chipmusic.org/forums/img/smilies/tongue.png" width="15" height="15" alt="tongue" /></p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Adhrast]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/Adhrast</uri>
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			<updated>2013-03-01T16:49:03Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Ripped off by Djtransformer.com]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>^haha<br />Damn this makes me hate my old teachers even more &gt;.&lt;</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[b4by f4c3]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/b4by+f4c3</uri>
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			<updated>2013-03-01T16:21:54Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Ripped off by Djtransformer.com]]></title>
			<link rel="alternate" href="https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/158048/#p158048"/>
			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>nickmaynard wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>i wonder if dj transformer is just viral marketing for kitsch</p></blockquote></div><p>darn, looks like i&#039;ve been found out <img src="https://chipmusic.org/forums/img/smilies/tongue.png" width="15" height="15" alt="tongue" /></p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[kitsch]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/kitsch</uri>
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			<updated>2013-03-01T15:52:03Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Ripped off by Djtransformer.com]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Yea I heard he&#039;s a teacher and I heard he travels a lot but that is not an excuse.&nbsp; He needs to freeze his store or post on the front page if there will be delays to shipments so people know to take their business elsewhere.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[nerdsome]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/nerdsome</uri>
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			<updated>2013-03-01T15:36:14Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Ripped off by Djtransformer.com]]></title>
			<link rel="alternate" href="https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/158043/#p158043"/>
			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>I ordered a cart from him before &amp; it was fine. I ordered another a couple of days ago &amp; after reading this I&#039;m worried it won&#039;t show up. As I understand it, he&#039;s a teacher(?) or something, I guess it&#039;s understandable if he&#039;s just busy. I will report back soon.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[GDNGHTLMPLGHT]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/GDNGHTLMPLGHT</uri>
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			<updated>2013-03-01T15:32:54Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Ripped off by Djtransformer.com]]></title>
			<link rel="alternate" href="https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/158027/#p158027"/>
			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Dispute it.&nbsp; Google will refund your money.&nbsp; I was told by someone who is a big modder that I can trust him so I ordered stuff.&nbsp; I gave 6 weeks for the order to be shipped.&nbsp; He wouldn&#039;t respond to emails and never shipped so I disputed it with google and got my money back.&nbsp; Even after that, someone else who is a modder spoke highly of transformer but I won&#039;t buy from him again.</p>]]></content>
			<author>
				<name><![CDATA[nerdsome]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/nerdsome</uri>
			</author>
			<updated>2013-03-01T14:12:49Z</updated>
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