<![CDATA[ChipMusic.org - HardSID question]]> 2013-04-16T14:01:48Z PunBB https://chipmusic.org/forums/topic/10846/hardsid-question/ <![CDATA[Re: HardSID question]]> I think the midibox sid firmware obviates the need to do a hard restart. It clocks the chip at a higher rate than hardware so they dont suffer from that problem.

]]> https://chipmusic.org/herr_prof 2013-04-16T14:01:48Z https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/164845/#p164845 <![CDATA[Re: HardSID question]]> Thanks man, no worriest about the LFO rate really.
It's more like, how would you do a hard restart using midi, for example?

]]> https://chipmusic.org/iLKke 2013-04-16T13:58:32Z https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/164844/#p164844 <![CDATA[Re: HardSID question]]> dont get me wrong, the lfo goes up to 45 hz, which is pretty damn fast (audio rate!):

http://www.ucapps.de/midibox_sid_manual.html

]]> https://chipmusic.org/herr_prof 2013-04-16T13:35:16Z https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/164839/#p164839 <![CDATA[Re: HardSID question]]> I think I do want crazy tracker speeds, LFO on filter is nice but I want more than a wobbly bassline. Also I doubt hacked hardsid.dll would be good if even the original hardsid is fiddly.

Cheers for info, guys, I'm so much wiser now!

]]> https://chipmusic.org/iLKke 2013-04-16T05:38:28Z https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/164817/#p164817 <![CDATA[Re: HardSID question]]> iLKke wrote:
Lazerbeat wrote:

You live in Wilba country! Isnt he doing midibox sid kits still?

Apparently last ever batch was 2 months ago.

Also, I'm REALLY not sure using MIDI to send shitloads of data to SID registers every tick makes any sense to me.

You dont send sid registers at midi rate, you use the onboard lfos to modulate stuff. It isnt at crazy tracker refresh speeds, but you can do it faster than ccling with external midi,.

You can also use a modified hardsid.dll with one fwiw.

]]> https://chipmusic.org/herr_prof 2013-04-16T03:20:44Z https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/164806/#p164806 <![CDATA[Re: HardSID question]]> Thats a good point. There are rudimentary SID players which work with MBsid as far as I recall though.

]]> https://chipmusic.org/Lazerbeat 2013-04-16T03:12:07Z https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/164804/#p164804 <![CDATA[Re: HardSID question]]> Lazerbeat wrote:

You live in Wilba country! Isnt he doing midibox sid kits still?

Apparently last ever batch was 2 months ago.

Also, I'm REALLY not sure using MIDI to send shitloads of data to SID registers every tick makes any sense to me.

]]> https://chipmusic.org/iLKke 2013-04-16T01:55:36Z https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/164790/#p164790 <![CDATA[Re: HardSID question]]> You live in Wilba country! Isnt he doing midibox sid kits still?

]]> https://chipmusic.org/Lazerbeat 2013-04-16T00:23:19Z https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/164787/#p164787 <![CDATA[Re: HardSID question]]> Oh shiii glad I asked D:

Guess I better find one and test it before committing.

]]> https://chipmusic.org/iLKke 2013-04-15T23:06:55Z https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/164781/#p164781 <![CDATA[Re: HardSID question]]> I think that's going a bit far, I've been very satisfied with mine but I guess it depends what your expectations are really.

The Uplay is really just a SID playback device.

]]> https://chipmusic.org/Jellica 2013-04-15T20:09:10Z https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/164756/#p164756 <![CDATA[Re: HardSID question]]> Also it wont work on Windows 7 unless you disable digital driver signing. You are probably better off sticking to goattracker or using an emulator on the pc side.

]]> https://chipmusic.org/herr_prof 2013-04-15T16:34:38Z https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/164734/#p164734 <![CDATA[Re: HardSID question]]> Ultra abusive latency in Goattracker with mine !!! :S

]]> https://chipmusic.org/XyNo 2013-04-15T16:34:04Z https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/164733/#p164733 <![CDATA[Re: HardSID question]]> imo, the rudeness and hostility in the customer service arena are worth not using one.  forget about support...  don't think about asking about enhancements you might want to make to your unit (even a LED color change, anathema!)...  and NEVER email directly and ask about mac support. 

too much ire.

this was only my personal experience.  feels like buying a product and having someone pissed off you're using it.

on the other hand.  nice and compact.  but the stuff Jellica mentions is true...  i've not had much success using it with goattracker either.  dropped notes, just some general weirdness.

i think overall if there were more support for the line (both from the people who make them, mac stuff....  even VST development) it would be a better product.  i just never got beyond this, and found myself with too much frustration, which after trying to seek help from them was just compounded in some big ways.  seriously....  who answers an email about virtual machines and VSTs with a threat that if i use the device in the way i've explained (in a virtual machine) i'm voiding the warranty (period. end of email.).

]]> https://chipmusic.org/kitsch 2013-04-15T16:14:05Z https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/164729/#p164729 <![CDATA[Re: HardSID question]]> I have a Hardsid Uplay, the only thing I have to compare it to is emulation though smile

It seems a little glitchy running directly from Goattracker, the volume is much more quiet than when playing back SID files or using Vice and I've had some weird tempo gitches where songs play fine using goattracker/hardsid but then freakout changing tempos when I've exported to SID. I've had a few songs where it drops notes as well.

Not knowing much about the SID, for all I know these could be because of a combination of weird grooves, ADSR settings and emulation.

I've started making 2 x SID and 3 x SID songs so it doesnt get much use any more, but other than the occasional glitches I've been happy and it sounds great.

]]> https://chipmusic.org/Jellica 2013-04-15T13:04:58Z https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/164702/#p164702 <![CDATA[HardSID question]]> So I've been eyeing HardSID forever. I might just give in and buy the damn thing soon.

What I want to know is how good is it? And by good I mean accurate.

My assumption was that with it, software like Vice or Goattracker of what-have-you will sound 100% like a real c64, but then someone told me that that might not be the case due to timing, dropping frames, etc.

Does anyone have hands-on experience?

]]> https://chipmusic.org/iLKke 2013-04-15T12:49:40Z https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/164700/#p164700