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	<updated>2013-05-03T23:32:15Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Backlights]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>OK well. Waiting&#039;s for suckers.</p><p>I decided to make the mentioned &quot;fix&quot; before my stuff arrived, which should be next week.</p><p>And I took a total of two pics, one during and one after, showing the result.</p><p>During... Old film going out...<br /><a class="postimg" href="http://oi41.tinypic.com/5x4wvr.jpg" title="PunBB bbcode test" id="forum_image_33555120"><img src="http://oi41.tinypic.com/5x4wvr.jpg" /></a></p><p>After, showing the result... Or not. The pic is really, really shitty. My phone does this weird noise dither thing with dark photos.<br /><a class="postimg" href="http://oi41.tinypic.com/e8pws2.jpg" title="PunBB bbcode test" id="forum_image_70037521"><img src="http://oi41.tinypic.com/e8pws2.jpg" /></a></p><p>Conclusion: It works! <img src="https://chipmusic.org/forums/img/smilies/smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="smile" /></p><p>Considerations for future: Having some form of adhesive for the loose sheet helps a lot.</p><p>Thanks again to everyone who helped out! <img src="https://chipmusic.org/forums/img/smilies/big_smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="big_smile" /><br />Now- I&#039;m going to bed. I&#039;m tired outta my skull.</p><p>EDIT:</p><p>So yeah. I noted that some form of adhesive helps to keep the loose sheet in place. However, take it from me: Not any type of adhesive works.<br />And this is the story of how I busted that particular sheet of polarizing film. Dumb ass mistake. It&#039;s fine though- I was able to save it using the sheet I recovered from the backlight itself, just turned to produce the normal polarization.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[my.Explosion]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/my.Explosion</uri>
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			<updated>2013-05-03T23:32:15Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Backlights]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>yeah, that&#039;d be awesome, there is really a bit to learn here about backlight construction, but more importantly repair.&nbsp; i&#039;ll be looking forward to your results, at least</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[kitsch]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/kitsch</uri>
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			<updated>2013-05-02T19:59:33Z</updated>
			<id>https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/166538/#p166538</id>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Backlights]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Fair enough, Kitsch. <img src="https://chipmusic.org/forums/img/smilies/big_smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="big_smile" /></p><p>I&#039;m sure it&#039;ll work out someway, and if it doesn&#039;t it doesn&#039;t. No real harm done.</p><p>Provided this thread still exists later I can post some pics of the whole ordeal along with a conclusion whether it worked or not. <img src="https://chipmusic.org/forums/img/smilies/smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="smile" /></p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[my.Explosion]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/my.Explosion</uri>
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			<updated>2013-05-02T19:56:29Z</updated>
			<id>https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/166537/#p166537</id>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Backlights]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>yeah, the polarization film is basically the same thing across kits, if there is a difference in thickness of this particular part its negligible</p><p>the thickness difference is mainly due to the light guide, which doesn&#039;t matter much to you since you only need the polarization film.&nbsp; which, you can cut with some sharp implement however you need <img src="https://chipmusic.org/forums/img/smilies/wink.png" width="15" height="15" alt="wink" />&nbsp; you&#039;ll find its pretty easy</p><p>you don&#039;t need to trim it to match the shape of the backlight even, just as long as it fits between the light source and the glass comfortably.&nbsp; the important part is to just make sure the polarization film has coverage over the entire light guide panel.&nbsp; but, you can trim it to match the shape if you wish.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[kitsch]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/kitsch</uri>
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			<updated>2013-05-02T18:17:40Z</updated>
			<id>https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/166532/#p166532</id>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Backlights]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>Apeshit wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Like I said, it&#039;s just a fraction of a mm, so I&#039;m maybe just nitpicking. With that said, it&#039;s only a matter of making two small cuts to have it sit properly.</p><p>But no, they&#039;re certainly not the same thickness. They&#039;re about .6mm difference in size. It doesn&#039;t sound like much, but it is very significant when dealing with these tolerances.</p></blockquote></div><p>*blush* yeah, my bad. My untrained eye said they are &quot;about as thick&quot;. I&#039;m new to this after all.</p><p>But my main point is still that since I have to remove the polarizing film that is glued to the LED-panel and replace it with the loose sheet, the thickness overall shouldn&#039;t change that much. Aren&#039;t all polarizing film sheets approximately as thick?</p><p>Another difference that springs to mind is that the Kitsch backlight is shaped sort of like a trapezoid at the bottom whilst the nonfinite backlight is a rectangle. So maybe this means I have to trim the film to match that one to make it less mismatched.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[my.Explosion]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/my.Explosion</uri>
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			<updated>2013-05-02T18:04:37Z</updated>
			<id>https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/166531/#p166531</id>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Backlights]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Like I said, it&#039;s just a fraction of a mm, so I&#039;m maybe just nitpicking. With that said, it&#039;s only a matter of making two small cuts to have it sit properly.</p><p>But no, they&#039;re certainly not the same thickness. They&#039;re about .6mm difference in size. It doesn&#039;t sound like much, but it is very significant when dealing with these tolerances.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Apeshit]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/Apeshit</uri>
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			<updated>2013-05-02T17:36:37Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Alright. Fair enough.</p><p>I see your point now.</p><p>But if I recall correctly both backlights are about as thick. There can&#039;t be a lot of difference, and even if there is a big enough difference so the polarizing film moves or doesn&#039;t sit well I&#039;ll have to somehow compensate for that.<br />And failing that, just replace the backlight with another one. But that&#039;s the end game solution. I won&#039;t go down without a good swing.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[my.Explosion]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/my.Explosion</uri>
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			<updated>2013-05-02T17:33:22Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Backlights]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>my.Explosion wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Well the kit from Kitsch-Bent sits above the plastic housing as well. If we&#039;re talking about the same thing, that is.</p><p>Anyway, I won&#039;t know for sure until maybe next week when my stuff arrives and I can test this thing out. <img src="https://chipmusic.org/forums/img/smilies/smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="smile" /></p></blockquote></div><p>No, that&#039;s not what I mean. Kitsch&#039;s backlights are the same thickness as ours.</p><p>I mean the total height of the backlight is lower than the surrounding housing.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Apeshit]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/Apeshit</uri>
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			<updated>2013-05-02T17:20:43Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Backlights]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>Apeshit wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Maybe I&#039;m just nitpicking here, but mixing parts actually isn&#039;t the best idea. Nonfinite&#039;s backlights sit above the LCD&#039;s plastic housing, while all other backlights sit below it. So if you use the polarized film from his kit with a thinner backlight, the LCD won&#039;t be sitting flush. I&#039;m talking a fraction of a mm here, so maybe it doesn&#039;t matter. But I&#039;d still cut a little notch in the corner or cut one side entirely to make it fit better.</p></blockquote></div><p>Well the kit from Kitsch-Bent sits above the plastic housing as well. If we&#039;re talking about the same thing, that is.</p><p>Anyway, I won&#039;t know for sure until maybe next week when my stuff arrives and I can test this thing out. <img src="https://chipmusic.org/forums/img/smilies/smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="smile" /></p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[my.Explosion]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/my.Explosion</uri>
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			<updated>2013-05-02T17:16:23Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Backlights]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Maybe I&#039;m just nitpicking here, but mixing parts actually isn&#039;t the best idea. Nonfinite&#039;s backlights sit above the LCD&#039;s plastic housing, while all other backlights sit below it. So if you use the polarized film from his kit with a thinner backlight, the LCD won&#039;t be sitting flush. I&#039;m talking a fraction of a mm here, so maybe it doesn&#039;t matter. But I&#039;d still cut a little notch in the corner or cut one side entirely to make it fit better.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Apeshit]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/Apeshit</uri>
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			<updated>2013-05-02T16:47:31Z</updated>
			<id>https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/166513/#p166513</id>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Backlights]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>OK. Good to know. <img src="https://chipmusic.org/forums/img/smilies/smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="smile" /></p><p>Thank you so much for everything (including the backlight, it&#039;s really nice <img src="https://chipmusic.org/forums/img/smilies/big_smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="big_smile" />)!</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[my.Explosion]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/my.Explosion</uri>
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			<updated>2013-05-01T19:18:16Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>ah, cool.&nbsp; yeah the material is essentially (functionally) the same thing, in the long run you could mix and match parts like this and end up with a really great backlight and no one would be the wiser except if they took it apart or were just overly critical.&nbsp; &nbsp;</p><p>the diffusion and polarization film can be cut by scissors if you need to clean up the edges at all.&nbsp; or a straight razor works well.&nbsp; </p><p>the adhesive strips, if you really want to add these back to hold the film in place, can be replicated by cutting a piece of the thin-type double-sided tape into strips.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[kitsch]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/kitsch</uri>
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			<updated>2013-05-01T19:15:33Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>kitsch wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>the square pieces are rotatable, the 2inch pieces from nonelectronics would work perfect for this (guessing this is your source by your calling them this)</p></blockquote></div><p>Well. The backlight is actually yours, Kitsch. ^^;</p><p>But the polarizing film will be a left-over from a LED panel that I&#039;m planning on putting on the shelf as soon as my new backlight arrives and that film is from one of nonfinite&#039;s kits.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[my.Explosion]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/my.Explosion</uri>
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			<updated>2013-05-01T19:00:39Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Backlights]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>the square pieces are rotatable, the 2inch pieces from nonelectronics would work perfect for this (guessing this is your source by your calling them this)</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[kitsch]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/kitsch</uri>
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			<updated>2013-05-01T18:57:28Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Backlights]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>my.Explosion wrote:</cite><blockquote><p> If not I will have a 2x2 inch polarizing sheet soon enough and could try that.</p><p>Thanks! <img src="https://chipmusic.org/forums/img/smilies/big_smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="big_smile" /></p></blockquote></div><p>You&#039;ll want to cut it if you mean a square piece, and not the die cut piece I linked to. 2x2&quot; is too big, the LCD won&#039;t sit flush.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Apeshit]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/Apeshit</uri>
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			<updated>2013-05-01T18:53:39Z</updated>
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