to you defense I was also unaware that pollack was *that* offensive...

well, I'M GLAD WE'RE ALL FRIENDS NOW!

CAPSLOCK!!!1

Edit: Also, in the guitar pedal world "clone" usually mean "exact copy" so that is not a word to bandy around lightly. Many guitarists look down on "true clone" pedal-making companies because it is considered unethical. Most of the "clones" ("bad monkey is a tubescreamer clone", etc) that AREN'T regarded as shady aren't really "true clones" but are more "copy-cats", since a true clone will actually have reverse-engineered parts to try to match exactly the parts of the pedal they are cloning, and "copies" are simply designed to sound/behave the same way as the pedal they are copying.

I say all this to say: the word "clone" is not as clearly defined as you seem to assume.

Edit: OH GOODY you changed it :3

No comment ;/

I would advice to actually check the license and look for a paragraph about derivative work

Yeah I already admitted that the topic name sucks and I'm sorry

Also I didn't really 100% copy you design. Yeah I looked at your design and it was my main inspiration. But I also looked at other designs as well - SwinSID, schrabs stereoswinsid and the shruthi. And I advice you the same. You can easily simplify the lcd circuit for example.

I hope you don't imply that I copied your case design

For the record the topic states that it is a clone. So I'm sure everyone knew it wasn't the real deal.

I don't think I have anything more to add. I hope we are cool now If anybody is still interested in me ripping off people you can check my Ambika Polivoks voicecard down at the mutable-instruments forums and hopefully in the future another sid synth with less cubersome interface similiar to the shruthi. Bye

We've had a few people come out with injuries and other health issues lately so it's not so unbelievable these days :-F

Damn, now my joke was in poor taste too... sorry about that.

Do you even know who is the author of MIDIbox? How the project is licensed? How did I rip them off? There are millions of other MIDIbox SID projects! Also MB-6582 is still sold. And this guy calls me an upstart polack! FUCK THIS DUDE!

LOL... yeah, fuck me indeed. I need a good fucking and my comeuppance is long overdue.

I've known the MIDIbox author (TK) a long time. I've hung out with him in Munich, twice. I gave him an MB-6582 (also my design, BTW). And a sammichSID. And a sammichFM. And he'll get a prototype of the next synth.

The licence of MIDIbox projects is a vague mishmash of open source but non-commercial. It's not entirely clear to me, and I've apparently adhered to the licence so far, so whatever... There are many implementations of a MIDIbox SID synth. However, sammichSID is my copyrighted design, and approved for sale in kits by TK. Are sammichSID PCBs open source? No. Are sammichSID PCB design files publicly available? No. Are sammichSID case design files available? If you ask me nicely, yes.

If you copy the sammichSID design for your own personal amusement and your own one-off creations, I don't give a fuck. Stick the logo on it too if you want, and I don't give a fuck. If you copy it and start selling it under the sammichSID name, then I start to give a fuck, and act like a little kid and troll the fuck out of you. I called you a polack. Sorry about that. I didn't think it was offensive. I must have got it mixed up with calling Canadians "canucks". You can call me a wog or dago or whatever insult is appropriate for a mongrel of Scottish, Welsh, Italian, Slovenian and miscellaneous Slav, and then we can call it even. Or both agree to stop acting like little kids.

Seriously, I'm usually a pretty nice guy IRL and online, and it gets boring. Sometimes it's nice to put on my arrogant asshole hat and take it out for a stroll.

The point: If you're going to copy something of mine and then call it a sammichSID, people may associate your project with my project; they may think (incorrectly) that it has my approval, or has the same parts, or same build quality; you are effectively trading on my reputation.... and then I may get a little shitty and start trolling for lulz and profit.

To the rest of you: I tried to make the excuse for my absence from the scene for a year sound so obviously fake that you would all have a laugh...
Thanks for the wishes of good health, though... :-)  2013 was just a real shit of a year in many ways, but it wasn't as bad as being in a coma.

While TK's platform design is free for non commercial use, the layout you use (sammich sid) is wilba's creation. that being said, I don't mind you offering lower cost alternatives and whatnot, but don't come here calling the original author of the design a "little kid" because that reflects poorly on you.

Also calling someone an upstart polack reflects poorly on them too (and as someone from Poland, fuck that shit). We all know Wilba's work but this is a cool alternative now that SIDs are getting harder to come by.

I'm all for the improvement of this project. Props, scannerboy.

While TK's platform design is free for non commercial use, the layout you use (sammich sid) is wilba's creation. that being said, I don't mind you offering lower cost alternatives and whatnot, but don't come here calling the original author of the design a "little kid" because that reflects poorly on you.

Also guys remember about your arduinoboys and flashcarts/writers.

Its always gotta be something, right?:P

I already admitted that the thread name wasn't cool but the name on the pcb to my defense is "MIDIbox Swinsid"

Also guys remember about your arduinoboys and flashcarts/writers.

Rumplefilter you write on the midibox forums, you should know who is the author of midibox ;/

yeah man of course I know that! but I think this here is a bit of a different matter. Wilba made the SammichSID not TK, though of course it's also based on the same MIDIbox SID project, and I guess he was a bit upset by the wording "SammichSID clone". I think that's it.
So it is something between you and him, but as I said, I think the whole matter is really an inexistent problem. You made 1 unit based on the MIDIbox SID design with TK's approval so no rippoff and no making money with other people's ideas, behind their backs! You did a totally legitimate thing. Just understand that somebody like Wilba can have (and rightfully) feelings about a project he's been developing and producing for years, that probably cost him a lot of time and sweat. Since you're a maker too you'll probably know what I'm talking about.

So now let's all get back to make some music and be friends ok?

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