<![CDATA[ChipMusic.org - Did anyone "chip" samples on the ST?]]> 2013-08-30T10:20:03Z PunBB https://chipmusic.org/forums/topic/11441/did-anyone-chip-samples-on-the-st/ <![CDATA[Re: Did anyone "chip" samples on the ST?]]> My first tune ever was made with protracker on ST ripping samples from nuke and 4mat ^_^

]]> https://chipmusic.org/dubmood 2013-08-30T10:20:03Z https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/182368/#p182368 <![CDATA[Re: Did anyone "chip" samples on the ST?]]> Sure, probably there are better ST trackers. Quartet is just the one that I remember trying from back then.

]]> https://chipmusic.org/rainwarrior 2013-07-08T16:27:06Z https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/176167/#p176167 <![CDATA[Re: Did anyone "chip" samples on the ST?]]> rainwarrior wrote:

There was a really decent sounding 4-channel tracker for the ST called Quartet. I think it's output was about equivalent to 8 bit / 16kHz. Example: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SPhcNthcweQ

many good tunes were made on Quartet, but I wouldn't recommend it as the first sample tracker to look at on Atari in 2013. Maybe Hextracker as 4mat suggests or one of the variants of Protracker.

]]> https://chipmusic.org/gwEm 2013-07-08T12:46:09Z https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/176151/#p176151 <![CDATA[Re: Did anyone "chip" samples on the ST?]]> maxYMiser had software waveforms since version 1 smile

]]> https://chipmusic.org/gwEm 2013-07-08T12:34:38Z https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/176150/#p176150 <![CDATA[Re: Did anyone "chip" samples on the ST?]]> Have you tried Hextracker?  You can vary the mix rate to get > 4 channels on stock machines.  (and STE dma support)

]]> https://chipmusic.org/4mat 2013-06-29T14:22:20Z https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/174846/#p174846 <![CDATA[Re: Did anyone "chip" samples on the ST?]]> Whaaaat? That IS pretty decent. Didn't know a stock ST could pull that off!

]]> https://chipmusic.org/n00bstar 2013-06-29T13:37:35Z https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/174839/#p174839 <![CDATA[Re: Did anyone "chip" samples on the ST?]]> The YM2149F has 3 channels that you can output a 4-bit logarithmic value on. The naive implementation would be 3 x 4-bit samples, yes, and if you didn't compensate for the log curve the samples would be pretty distorted.

However, it didn't have to sound bad/distorted, and it didn't have to be limited to 3 channels. You can instead do your mixing in software and use the channels as a single linked DAC, allowing more than just 3 channels and better sample quality. It requires a bit more clever programming, but the results are pretty decent.

There was a really decent sounding 4-channel tracker for the ST called Quartet. I think it's output was about equivalent to 8 bit / 16kHz. Example: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SPhcNthcweQ

]]> https://chipmusic.org/rainwarrior 2013-06-29T13:20:59Z https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/174837/#p174837 <![CDATA[Re: Did anyone "chip" samples on the ST?]]> Wasn't there some kind of trick on a bog standard ST where samples could be divided amongst the (three? four?) channels and played semi convincingly (read: screeching like a banshee chained into the pits of hell) with synthesis of some kind or other?

]]> https://chipmusic.org/n00bstar 2013-06-29T11:00:56Z https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/174826/#p174826 <![CDATA[Re: Did anyone "chip" samples on the ST?]]> A few games had tracked music in their title screens:

After Burner: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q0Av950xE8w#t=0m58s
Anarchy: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8xMZSrrMDOA#t=0m38s

I think this technique is just playing through the YM2149F with a timed interrupt, or just carefully timed code maybe. The STE had a PCM DMA add-on, but I can't think of any games offhand that used it. (STE was kind of unsupported game-wise, most developers still targeted ST I think.)

]]> https://chipmusic.org/rainwarrior 2013-06-29T02:37:17Z https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/174779/#p174779 <![CDATA[Re: Did anyone "chip" samples on the ST?]]> There were some sample trackers for the ST, so I'd guess there were sample chiptunes. But it needs to be investigated for sure!

EDIT: I was thinking that the STe has two DMA channels, but looking it up I found out that they have a very limited set of output frequencies. Not very good circumstances for these chip waveforms to "naturally" occur.

]]> https://chipmusic.org/boomlinde 2013-06-26T07:48:32Z https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/174336/#p174336 <![CDATA[Re: Did anyone "chip" samples on the ST?]]> jefftheworld wrote:
Matej wrote:

And why is thi in ATARI???

The ST was an Atari. He's specifically asking about the usage of these types of sample on the Atari ST.

I've not seen a lot of this used in the Atari ST scene. I think often times there are more "valuable" sound that are used in the 2 digi channels. However, it actually sounds like a great idea to play with!

People who use these waveform samples on ST are mostly Protracker users ! (which is not exclusive to AtariST !)

]]> https://chipmusic.org/XyNo 2013-06-26T01:34:16Z https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/174304/#p174304 <![CDATA[Re: Did anyone "chip" samples on the ST?]]> Matej wrote:

And why is thi in ATARI???

The ST was an Atari. He's specifically asking about the usage of these types of sample on the Atari ST.

I've not seen a lot of this used in the Atari ST scene. I think often times there are more "valuable" sound that are used in the 2 digi channels. However, it actually sounds like a great idea to play with!

]]> https://chipmusic.org/jefftheworld 2013-06-25T22:14:31Z https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/174285/#p174285 <![CDATA[Re: Did anyone "chip" samples on the ST?]]> Because Amiga and NES.

]]> https://chipmusic.org/n00bstar 2013-06-25T14:44:29Z https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/174227/#p174227 <![CDATA[Re: Did anyone "chip" samples on the ST?]]> And why is this in ATARI category???

]]> https://chipmusic.org/Matej 2013-06-25T14:12:55Z https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/174225/#p174225 <![CDATA[Re: Did anyone "chip" samples on the ST?]]> lol @ "4mat style"

That's how we all did it back then wink And that's how I do a lot of my tones in klystrack too.

]]> https://chipmusic.org/n00bstar 2013-06-20T09:20:23Z https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/173550/#p173550