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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>sunsp0t wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Does that lipo mod last longer or shorter than your run of the mill aaa&#039;s?</p></blockquote></div><p>Well, seeing as the average AAA battery has a typical rating of 850-1200 mAh, and the lipo has a rating of about 600 mAh, I&#039;d say it&#039;s maybe less.</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2013-11-16T02:13:04Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Does that lipo mod last longer or shorter than your run of the mill aaa&#039;s?</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2013-11-16T00:43:59Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>z20leh wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Want to fit a 3.7v lithium polymer batter and charge circuit to one of my pockets.</p></blockquote></div><br /><p>I&#039;ve done this:<br /><a class="postimg" href="http://i49.tinypic.com/1j3f2t.jpg" title="http://i49.tinypic.com/1j3f2t.jpg" id="forum_image_19488201"><img src="http://i49.tinypic.com/1j3f2t.jpg" /></a></p><p>I used lipo similar to <a href="http://www.ebay.com/itm/2x-Tigers-EFLB5001S-1S-3-7V-600mAh-15C-LiPo-Battery-MQX-120SR-V929-Solo-Pro-328A-/400347896727?pt=US_Character_Radio_Control_Toys&amp;hash=item5d36981b97" target="_blank">this</a> and <a href="https://www.sparkfun.com/products/10401" target="_blank">this</a> as charging circuit.</p><p>I had to move a few caps elsewhere because of space constraints but it all depends on what kind of battery you get. There is also some dremel work to be done.<br />The battery life is surprisingly good and I don&#039;t have any problems with EMS + MGB anymore.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[ashimoke]]></name>
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			<updated>2013-11-15T07:51:49Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: MGB li po battery mod would this work?]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>I remember selling a modded Pocket and the buyer blamed me that he had wasted too many batteries on it. Turned out he had the older version of the EMS cart. I even contacted ASM to ask if it was an issue with the LEDx3 panel. Fun times.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[thedimitry]]></name>
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			<updated>2013-11-15T00:00:46Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: MGB li po battery mod would this work?]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>thebitman wrote:</cite><blockquote><div class="quotebox"><cite>katsumbhong wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>To my understanding the 64M EMS carts on a MGB drain the regular batteries quick (~15-minutes). A fix to this would be using batteries with more juice.</p></blockquote></div><p>Not quite true, most &quot;newer&quot; 64M carts work just fine, it had to do with earlier versions of the cart not drawing power correctly. I think it may be worthwhile at some point to survey the cart revision numbers like we have the DMG CPU&#039;s to see where the discrepancies are.</p></blockquote></div><p>on the back of the cart shells the EMS carts come in, they mark the date of assembly,</p><p>the cartridges from batch &quot;1006A&quot; (which is June, 2010, batch A) and onwards don&#039;t seem to have pocket problems at all.&nbsp; there was a batch &quot;1006&quot; too, this didn&#039;t get the fix</p><p>there is probably a corresponding PCB revision that goes with this, but who knows that was a while ago and they are out over the world now, might be hard to get solid info on that.&nbsp; &quot;1006A&quot; assembly date works though, i remember when that batch came along very well</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2013-11-12T15:34:34Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>[/quote=thebitman]</p><div class="quotebox"><cite>katsumbhong wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Not quite true, most &quot;newer&quot; 64M carts work just fine, it had to do with earlier versions of the cart not drawing power correctly. I think it may be worthwhile at some point to survey the cart revision numbers like we have the DMG CPU&#039;s to see where the discrepancies are.</p></blockquote></div><br /><p>&quot;what was wrong with the DMG CPU&#039;s&quot;?</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2013-11-12T07:20:23Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>I have an EMS cart and find there&#039;s no problem. I did get it this year so I guess that it&#039;s a new one but whats got to do with things?</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2013-08-18T06:20:29Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Starting with carts produced in 2011 or so. It doesn&#039;t seem like it has been that long, but you have to account for the time it takes for distributors/resellers to get the carts and for people who use pockets to not-complain about them. I have owned 4 or so EMS 64M carts, 2 of which were newer and had use rivaling the Bleepbloop when I used the on GBPs. The old ones, obviously, sucked power.</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2013-08-17T16:13:00Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>thebitman wrote:</cite><blockquote><div class="quotebox"><cite>katsumbhong wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>To my understanding the 64M EMS carts on a MGB drain the regular batteries quick (~15-minutes). A fix to this would be using batteries with more juice.</p></blockquote></div><p>Not quite true, most &quot;newer&quot; 64M carts work just fine, it had to do with earlier versions of the cart not drawing power correctly. I think it may be worthwhile at some point to survey the cart revision numbers like we have the DMG CPU&#039;s to see where the discrepancies are.</p></blockquote></div><p>When did the switch to the newer design happen?!</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[katsumbhong]]></name>
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			<updated>2013-08-17T16:03:54Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: MGB li po battery mod would this work?]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>katsumbhong wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>To my understanding the 64M EMS carts on a MGB drain the regular batteries quick (~15-minutes). A fix to this would be using batteries with more juice.</p></blockquote></div><p>Not quite true, most &quot;newer&quot; 64M carts work just fine, it had to do with earlier versions of the cart not drawing power correctly. I think it may be worthwhile at some point to survey the cart revision numbers like we have the DMG CPU&#039;s to see where the discrepancies are.</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2013-08-17T16:03:05Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>There was a post about someone use Li-Ion AAA batteries either her or on 8BC back in the day that were hooked up in series. I think you had to add a few things to the circuit and desolder a few things, run some jumper wires and you&#039;re gravy.</p><div class="quotebox"><cite>Jazzmarazz wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Remove why?</p></blockquote></div><p>To my understanding the 64M EMS carts on a MGB drain the regular batteries quick (~15-minutes). A fix to this would be using batteries with more juice.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[katsumbhong]]></name>
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			<updated>2013-08-17T15:51:51Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Well that battery is really low in mAh (mili-amp-hours)&nbsp; and won&#039;t last long on a charge. Here is a more sufficient battery, but it may be too big:</p><p><a href="http://www.batteryspace.com/polymerli-ioncell37v5000mah896474-2c185wh10arateullisted.aspx" target="_blank">http://www.batteryspace.com/polymerli-i &#133; isted.aspx</a></p><p>Another one, that is a bit smaller, and not as large mAh:</p><p><a href="http://www.batteryspace.com/polymerli-ioncell37v2000mah605060-15c74wh4arate-ullisted.aspx" target="_blank">http://www.batteryspace.com/polymerli-i &#133; isted.aspx</a></p><p>Now this is a raw battery, so you need to buy the protection circuit and charger as well:</p><p><a href="http://www.batteryspace.com/customizesmartcharger12afor74vli-ionpolymerrechargeablebatterypackwith55x25mmbarrelconnector--ulcelisted.aspx" target="_blank">http://www.batteryspace.com/customizesm &#133; isted.aspx</a></p><p><a href="http://www.batteryspace.com/PCB-for-3.7V-of-Li-Ion-Battery-2.0A-limit.aspx" target="_blank">http://www.batteryspace.com/PCB-for-3.7 &#133; limit.aspx</a></p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[dsv101]]></name>
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			<updated>2013-08-17T15:47:02Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Remove why?</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2013-08-17T14:28:22Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Want to fit a 3.7v lithium polymer batter and charge circuit to one of my pockets. Would this work:</p><p><a href="http://www.hobbytronics.co.uk/lipo-battery-and-charger" target="_blank">http://www.hobbytronics.co.uk/lipo-battery-and-charger</a></p><p>I have heard that to fit li po id have to get rid of the capacitors on the rear of the board. Which?</p><p>Any help would be great?</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[z20leh]]></name>
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			<updated>2013-08-17T13:51:20Z</updated>
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