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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: EMS & Windows 8?]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>I&#039;m using Windows 8.1 and the easiest way of dealing with this is by using a little VM with windows 2000/XP. In my case I use this for EMS carts as well as for by Xchanger 2 (via a USB parallel port). You may choose to use windows 2000 as there are compatible drivers and the install is a bit smaller but I choose windows XP. Using the free Virtualbox software I created a VM, installed the drivers and utilities and then create a memory image so that there was no need to wait for the VM to boot every time I wanted to use it.</p><p>Otherwise you can enable the test signing but if this is the only unsigned driver that you&#039;re planning on using then that probably not the easiest or best way of doing things (you&#039;ll need to include and sign a .cat for the .inf and the run the bcdedit -set TESTSIGNING ON to load the drivers). If you are using lots of older or unsigned drivers then you might want to set up your computer to always allow test signing. DSEO won&#039;t allow you to go into test mode but it&#039;s signing functions seem to work fine with Windows 8.1.</p><p>EDIT: There are also experimental linux drivers available. Last I saw they were incomplete but that&#039;s an avenue worth looking into. A linux VM could be exceptionally small (Damn Small Linux is about 50MB) and you could further strip any software you don&#039;t plan on using, turning it into an environment designed purely for interacting with EMS carts.</p><p>DOUBLE EDIT: Looking at the <a href="http://lacklustre.net/projects/ems-flasher/" target="_blank">EMS Flasher for Mac / Linux</a>, it should be possible to port over to a Windows machine given an install of Cygwin, as it should run on any system with libusb.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[jefftheworld]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/jefftheworld</uri>
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			<updated>2013-11-20T12:04:58Z</updated>
			<id>https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/191556/#p191556</id>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: EMS & Windows 8?]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Has anyone had any luck with windows 8.1? I&#039;ve followed all the steps, although they moved a bunch of options which I had to track down. I&#039;m not really up for running a partition.</p><p>Any real options?</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[ForaBrokenEarth]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/ForaBrokenEarth</uri>
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			<updated>2013-11-20T11:10:09Z</updated>
			<id>https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/191552/#p191552</id>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: EMS & Windows 8?]]></title>
			<link rel="alternate" href="https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/190392/#p190392"/>
			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>I am getting increasingly frustrated with this <img src="https://chipmusic.org/forums/img/smilies/sad.png" width="15" height="15" alt="sad" /></p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[ForaBrokenEarth]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/ForaBrokenEarth</uri>
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			<updated>2013-11-09T11:38:24Z</updated>
			<id>https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/190392/#p190392</id>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: EMS & Windows 8?]]></title>
			<link rel="alternate" href="https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/185549/#p185549"/>
			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>ugh, I still have trouble with ems carts on win7. it&#039;s kind of odd to consider that in the span of time it has taken for Microsoft to literally make 2 entirely new operating systems the ems solutions haven&#039;t gotten any easier.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[BR1GHT PR1MATE]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/BR1GHT+PR1MATE</uri>
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			<updated>2013-09-25T19:02:43Z</updated>
			<id>https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/185549/#p185549</id>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: EMS & Windows 8?]]></title>
			<link rel="alternate" href="https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/185538/#p185538"/>
			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>You could if you wanted, but I&#039;m interested in Windows 8 because I want to know specifically if the things I suggested above would work. Also, Linux 64-bit shouldn&#039;t be much different from Linux 32-bit since it&#039;s all open source and there are no driver signature issues on Linux.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[nitro2k01]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/nitro2k01</uri>
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			<updated>2013-09-25T16:53:57Z</updated>
			<id>https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/185538/#p185538</id>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: EMS & Windows 8?]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>nitro2k01 wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Bumping this like crazy. Could someone please try either of the things I was recommending to see if they make any difference?</p></blockquote></div><p>I would but due to being a distracted impatient dork I wiped my Win8 install while playing with Ubuntu Studio.&nbsp; I&#039;ll gladly check anything you need in 64bit Linux if needed?&nbsp; My EMS carts have been largely ignored since I no longer have an XP or even Windows install on my machines.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[egr]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/egr</uri>
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			<updated>2013-09-25T16:40:39Z</updated>
			<id>https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/185537/#p185537</id>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: EMS & Windows 8?]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Bumping this like crazy. Could someone please try either of the things I was recommending to see if they make any difference?</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[nitro2k01]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/nitro2k01</uri>
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			<updated>2013-09-25T16:24:37Z</updated>
			<id>https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/185534/#p185534</id>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: EMS & Windows 8?]]></title>
			<link rel="alternate" href="https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/184234/#p184234"/>
			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Could anyone please confirm whether any of what I said does anything on Windows 8?</p>]]></content>
			<author>
				<name><![CDATA[nitro2k01]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/nitro2k01</uri>
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			<updated>2013-09-14T23:25:03Z</updated>
			<id>https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/184234/#p184234</id>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: EMS & Windows 8?]]></title>
			<link rel="alternate" href="https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/183436/#p183436"/>
			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>thanks for this thread. Windows 8 users (not many of us) thank you all!! \(^ . ^)/</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[spOOked]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/spOOked</uri>
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			<updated>2013-09-07T08:55:59Z</updated>
			<id>https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/183436/#p183436</id>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: EMS & Windows 8?]]></title>
			<link rel="alternate" href="https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/183435/#p183435"/>
			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Hmm, looking further, I found this link: <a href="http://forums.mydigitallife.info/threads/38041-How-to-forever-disable-driver-signature-enforcement-in-Windows-8" target="_blank">http://forums.mydigitallife.info/thread &#133; -Windows-8</a></p><p>Disabling driver signature enforcement *should* still work on Windows 8, just not through DSEO. Use thi to do it manually instead &quot;bcdedit -set TESTSIGNING ON&quot;<br />However, 1) you need to do it from an administrator command prompt 2) you still need to sign the driver manually. </p><p>Otherwise, try my other bcdedit line and see if that makes the boot menu show up at boot time. (You can even put a value of 10 just for testing since yo can change it later.) This should definitely allow you to press F8 on boot, which should simplify the process at least a little. Again, you need to do this from an administrator/elevated command prompt window. <br />Look here to see how to open an elevated command prompt: <a href="http://pcsupport.about.com/od/windows-8/a/elevated-command-prompt-windows-8.htm" target="_blank">http://pcsupport.about.com/od/windows-8 &#133; dows-8.htm</a></p><p>One of these days I need to install Windows 8 so I can try these things directly and don&#039;t have to rely on other people&#039;s sources, though. <img src="https://chipmusic.org/forums/img/smilies/tongue.png" width="15" height="15" alt="tongue" /></p><p>Edit: Note that disabling signature checks, and enabling test mode are two different things. Disabling signature checks completely is considered dangerous because any application can now load kernel drivers, so it needs to be done at boot time every time you boot. All the timeout line does (hopefully) is allow you to get into the boot menu without doing the ritual with the troubleshooting menu.</p><p>Test mode doesn&#039;t eliminate the signature checks, but allows users to sign drivers themselves. This can be permanently enabled, but shows a warning text in the lower right corner of the desktop and also requires the extra step of manually signing the driver in order for it to work.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[nitro2k01]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/nitro2k01</uri>
			</author>
			<updated>2013-09-07T08:44:06Z</updated>
			<id>https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/183435/#p183435</id>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: EMS & Windows 8?]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>nitro2k01 wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Doesn&#039;t <a href="http://www.ngohq.com/?page=dseo" target="_blank">DSEO</a> work with Windows 8? I guess not since it&#039;s not listed in the compatible OSs. Otherwise, can&#039;t you press F8 when booting, like you can with Windows 7?<br />If Windows 8 is anything like Windows 7, you could try opening an administrator command prompt and doing the following command. This should make the Windows boot manager show up for 1 second on each boot, which should allow you to press F8, again, unless Windows 8 is different in this regard.</p><p>bcdedit /set {bootmgr} timeout 1</p></blockquote></div><p>Nope; Windows 8 doesn&#039;t have the F8 boot menu thing.<br />Also, DSEO doesn&#039;t work with Windows 8. Can&#039;t even use it to go into Test Mode.<br />I just used the &quot;special restart&quot; thing and disabled driver signature enforcement.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Invisible Robot Hands]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/Invisible+Robot+Hands</uri>
			</author>
			<updated>2013-09-07T08:24:11Z</updated>
			<id>https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/183433/#p183433</id>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: EMS & Windows 8?]]></title>
			<link rel="alternate" href="https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/183432/#p183432"/>
			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Doesn&#039;t <a href="http://www.ngohq.com/?page=dseo" target="_blank">DSEO</a> work with Windows 8? I guess not since it&#039;s not listed in the compatible OSs. Otherwise, can&#039;t you press F8 when booting, like you can with Windows 7?<br />If Windows 8 is anything like Windows 7, you could try opening an administrator command prompt and doing the following command. This should make the Windows boot manager show up for 1 second on each boot, which should allow you to press F8, again, unless Windows 8 is different in this regard.</p><p>bcdedit /set {bootmgr} timeout 1</p>]]></content>
			<author>
				<name><![CDATA[nitro2k01]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/nitro2k01</uri>
			</author>
			<updated>2013-09-07T08:12:22Z</updated>
			<id>https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/183432/#p183432</id>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: EMS & Windows 8?]]></title>
			<link rel="alternate" href="https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/183431/#p183431"/>
			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>awesome. i was finally able to get this to work! now i can do mobile .sav backup! thanks guys</p><p>running it on a samsung tablet/laptop</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Auxcide]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/Auxcide</uri>
			</author>
			<updated>2013-09-07T07:27:28Z</updated>
			<id>https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/183431/#p183431</id>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: EMS & Windows 8?]]></title>
			<link rel="alternate" href="https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/183310/#p183310"/>
			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Is a pain... but possible.<br />You have to:<br />1) on the right panel, go to &quot;Change PC settings&quot;<br />2) go to General, and in the Right botton under Advanced startup -&gt; Restart Now<br />3) choose on Options -&gt; Troubleshoot<br />4) Advanced Options<br />5) Startup Options<br />6) Restart<br />...&nbsp; yes computer will restart<br />7) press 7 for &quot;Disable driver signature enforcement&quot;</p>]]></content>
			<author>
				<name><![CDATA[Zuberi]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/Zuberi</uri>
			</author>
			<updated>2013-09-06T16:04:46Z</updated>
			<id>https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/183310/#p183310</id>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: EMS & Windows 8?]]></title>
			<link rel="alternate" href="https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/183094/#p183094"/>
			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Virtual Box is the tits. If you can&#039;t afford Windows just run Linux, Although that is just as difficult.</p>]]></content>
			<author>
				<name><![CDATA[SwebMusic]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/SwebMusic</uri>
			</author>
			<updated>2013-09-05T03:55:03Z</updated>
			<id>https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/183094/#p183094</id>
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