<![CDATA[ChipMusic.org - Japanese question (Note!?!?)]]> 2010-05-01T00:01:07Z PunBB https://chipmusic.org/forums/topic/1226/japanese-question-note/ <![CDATA[Re: Japanese question (Note!?!?)]]> Ah, that was for the sample thread. I prefer to have specialized libraries, they tend to be a bit more refined about the topic they're on. But I agree that freesound is a nice source. Thanks for having a look!

]]> https://chipmusic.org/%C2%B5B 2010-05-01T00:01:07Z https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/21455/#p21455 <![CDATA[Re: Japanese question (Note!?!?)]]> From a quick read I would say no although they specify "redistributing" via the web and stuff. If you are looking for free sounds and stuff, why not go to freesound.org? I'm sure they have Japanese train sounds.

After a quick search, I just found a bunch so yeah, head over there and just search "japan train station" er something.

]]> https://chipmusic.org/Note%21 2010-04-30T23:13:05Z https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/21449/#p21449 <![CDATA[Re: Japanese question (Note!?!?)]]> Could one of you polyglots check the second point in the "read this first" section of this site and tell me if it would be kosher to use the samples there in a track? I don't trust google translation enough for that. Thanks!

]]> https://chipmusic.org/%C2%B5B 2010-04-30T17:58:16Z https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/21423/#p21423 <![CDATA[Re: Japanese question (Note!?!?)]]> Note! has hit the nail on the head with this question.

in summary:

kun-yomi for verbs and native adjectives,
on-yomi for (originally chinese) nouns, names, and compound verbs.

]]> https://chipmusic.org/cheapshot 2010-04-18T10:52:22Z https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/19923/#p19923 <![CDATA[Re: Japanese question (Note!?!?)]]> I have a love/hate relationship with kanji but I still love learning Japanese.

]]> https://chipmusic.org/Star+Fighter+Dreams 2010-04-18T05:38:10Z https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/19908/#p19908 <![CDATA[Re: Japanese question (Note!?!?)]]> japanese is such a fun language to learn. heart

]]> https://chipmusic.org/meotojite 2010-04-18T04:53:49Z https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/19906/#p19906 <![CDATA[Re: Japanese question (Note!?!?)]]> なしりい都市まくないし懐しか

]]> https://chipmusic.org/Reteris 2010-04-17T23:02:41Z https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/19884/#p19884 <![CDATA[Re: Japanese question (Note!?!?)]]> Note! wrote:

It gets even more fun when one character can have like 7 or 8 readings. Ugh.

lol I think even Japanese people get confused by kanji. complex writing system!

]]> https://chipmusic.org/Rei+Yano 2010-04-17T22:50:43Z https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/19883/#p19883 <![CDATA[Re: Japanese question (Note!?!?)]]> It gets even more fun when one character can have like 7 or 8 readings. Ugh.

]]> https://chipmusic.org/Note%21 2010-04-17T22:46:11Z https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/19882/#p19882 <![CDATA[Re: Japanese question (Note!?!?)]]> That's an infromative post, Note! Thank you. Of course, the challenge to actually learn any reading and/or meaning for any useful number of kanji still remains. tongue

]]> https://chipmusic.org/nitro2k01 2010-04-17T22:39:27Z https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/19881/#p19881 <![CDATA[Re: Japanese question (Note!?!?)]]> No prob Rei Yano! Glad I could contribute to your brains.

]]> https://chipmusic.org/Note%21 2010-04-17T22:31:01Z https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/19880/#p19880 <![CDATA[Re: Japanese question (Note!?!?)]]> Thanks Note! really great info here. I learneded today. smile

]]> https://chipmusic.org/Rei+Yano 2010-04-17T22:13:46Z https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/19879/#p19879 <![CDATA[Re: Japanese question (Note!?!?)]]> As a general rule, kanji in words that contain hiragana (like natsukashii) use the kunyomi, single kanji often use kunyomi (水 is read mizu and not sui unless you put it in a compound like 温水 and it becomes onsui),  and compound kanji words, easily spotted by their lack of hiragana and often found in technical jargon of every kind and proper nouns, use onyomi. As with most languages, this is not a hard and fast rule and there are tons of exceptions. All bets are off when it comes to place names and family names. One example is that 'Sui' goes back to being 'mizu' in the often seen place name and family name Shimizu 清水 despite the fact that it's a kanji compound.

Nitro: regarding your question about suffix, natsukashii is actually the entire word and contains no suffix. The line between hiragana and kanji in a word that contains both does not neccesarily denote prefix/suffix. Instead, the line between a kanji character and hiragana characters will often approximate what will change when you create different conjugations/forms of the verb/adjective/whatever. E.g.: Tanoshii or 楽しい will change to 楽しかった for the past tense, 楽しくない for the negative, 楽しくなくなりました for "it became not fun" and countless other variations. Notice the changes all occur after the し shi after the kanji character. That all may not make any sense.

All this being said, I'm definitely no expert and some of this may be wrong. Lazerbeat would probably be a better person to ask. If you do have other questions though, I'd be happy to try and answer them.

And, yeah, furigana is awesome despite being aesthetically ugly.

]]> https://chipmusic.org/Note%21 2010-04-17T21:37:29Z https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/19877/#p19877 <![CDATA[Re: Japanese question (Note!?!?)]]> µB wrote:

I don't think there's a general rule, else they wouldn't have to bother with furigana. IIRC, compound kanji are mostly ready onyomi, while single ones are read kunyomi.

Japanese writing really keeps me from learning the language, I'm no good with memorizing stuff like that.

furigana is my best friend.

]]> https://chipmusic.org/Rei+Yano 2010-04-17T18:27:50Z https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/19873/#p19873 <![CDATA[Re: Japanese question (Note!?!?)]]> I hardly understand the written language of Japanese. I only learned to speak it (not fluent). I am back into studying it though.

]]> https://chipmusic.org/Rei+Yano 2010-04-17T18:26:56Z https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/19871/#p19871