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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: USB - AV Grabbers convertor thingos????]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>cTrix wrote:</cite><blockquote><div class="quotebox"><cite>iamEVE-X wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>I barely have any room as it is, Let alone any more power points, Im convinced that the USB thing is the only way...</p></blockquote></div><br /><br /><p>So seriously; get something like - <a href="http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Vivid-15-4-HD-LED-LCD-Television-12V-Car-Adapter-/261261660287?pt=AU_Televisions&amp;hash=item3cd468907f&amp;_uhb=1" target="_blank">http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Vivid-15-4-H &#133; amp;_uhb=1</a></p><p>Or if you don&#039;t have a lot of room; you can use something similar to what I use (and Xyce / 8GB also use) - <a href="http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/L0608-Eonon-In-Car-9-HD-Stand-Alone-LCD-Headrest-Monitor-Screen-Free-Ship-AU-/300668883777?pt=AU_Car_Parts_Accessories&amp;hash=item4601431341&amp;_uhb=1" target="_blank">http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/L0608-Eonon- &#133; amp;_uhb=1</a></p></blockquote></div><br /><p>Thanks cTrix, I was wanting somebody to &quot;Break The News&quot;, the latency was the one big thing I was curious about. Now looking at it, its looks aweful, I was actually gunna PM you about this before posting.</p><p>I think one of those little car LCD screens that you linked will be the way to go, Ill just have to make room and comprimise.</p><p>Thanks for your help man.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[iamEVE-X]]></name>
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			<updated>2013-11-29T07:48:42Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: USB - AV Grabbers convertor thingos????]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>actually you have to buy the tv with your own money so when you are released you take your property with you (which includes the tv)</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Puke_Flytalker]]></name>
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			<updated>2013-11-27T15:21:22Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: USB - AV Grabbers convertor thingos????]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>Puke_Flytalker wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>a couple of my friends spent some time in the prison.. i had one given to me</p></blockquote></div><p>So they&#039;re either brilliant smugglers or the prison service is getting really friendly.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[PROTODOME]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/PROTODOME</uri>
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			<updated>2013-11-27T14:31:34Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: USB - AV Grabbers convertor thingos????]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>iamEVE-X wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>I barely have any room as it is, Let alone any more power points, Im convinced that the USB thing is the only way...</p></blockquote></div><p>I hate to break the news - but It&#039;s a terrible way for the most part.&nbsp; I have a number of capture devices ranging from $80 to around $5000.&nbsp; </p><p>I bought a cheap USB video cap device similar to the one you linked me as a backup to my mini LCD for Blip fest.&nbsp; I found the latency made it impossible to have a good / usable experience!&nbsp; Even though my mini DSE screen was a bit low res - it was instant latency wise.&nbsp; There might be a newer one that is better but the dead giveaway that the Jaycar one will suck is:</p><p>&gt; real time recording MPEG 4/2/1 video formats</p><p>Mostly these formats have 18 field GOP structures in their encoder stage - which means a minimum of 350ms delay... if not more.&nbsp; The problem is that the encoder is in the device - so you can&#039;t intercept the raw signal and put uncompressed video to screen.</p><p>I do have a couple which are almost zero latency - made by Grass Valley - but they are both broadcast PCI cards and PC only.&nbsp; I have a Datavideo Firewire box - but even that has a few frames latency. </p><p>Black magic make a similar thing for Thunderbolt - <a href="http://www.This%20spam%20will%20soon%20be%20deleted.com/au/products/intensity" target="_blank">http://www.This spam will soon be delet &#133; /intensity</a> -&nbsp; And reports say it has a 3 frame latency going out (which is what most people are interested in!!)&nbsp; I&#039;d guess it&#039;d do about the same coming in.&nbsp; But then again - a lot can happen in 75 - 100ms ... so for gaming, I&#039;m really not sure any USB cap device is going to work.</p><p>So seriously; get something like - <a href="http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Vivid-15-4-HD-LED-LCD-Television-12V-Car-Adapter-/261261660287?pt=AU_Televisions&amp;hash=item3cd468907f&amp;_uhb=1" target="_blank">http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Vivid-15-4-H &#133; amp;_uhb=1</a></p><p>Or if you don&#039;t have a lot of room; you can use something similar to what I use (and Xyce / 8GB also use) - <a href="http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/L0608-Eonon-In-Car-9-HD-Stand-Alone-LCD-Headrest-Monitor-Screen-Free-Ship-AU-/300668883777?pt=AU_Car_Parts_Accessories&amp;hash=item4601431341&amp;_uhb=1" target="_blank">http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/L0608-Eonon- &#133; amp;_uhb=1</a></p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[cTrix]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/cTrix</uri>
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			<updated>2013-11-27T08:44:16Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: USB - AV Grabbers convertor thingos????]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>get an rca jack installed into your brain</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Puke_Flytalker]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/Puke_Flytalker</uri>
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			<updated>2013-11-27T08:17:35Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: USB - AV Grabbers convertor thingos????]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>iamEVE-X wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>I barely have any room as it is, Let alone any more power points, Im convinced that the USB thing is the only way...</p></blockquote></div><p>Wall-mount flat screen bro.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[katsumbhong]]></name>
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			<updated>2013-11-27T08:15:47Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: USB - AV Grabbers convertor thingos????]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>I barely have any room as it is, Let alone any more power points, Im convinced that the USB thing is the only way...</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[iamEVE-X]]></name>
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			<updated>2013-11-27T08:10:19Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: USB - AV Grabbers convertor thingos????]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>a couple of my friends spent some time in the prison.. i had one given to me and i just plugged computer speakers into it.. they are pretty bad ass they make em clear so you can hide stuff in them lolz also made me realize how little is really going on inside of a tv</p><p><a class="postimg" href="http://truestreetcars.com/forums/attachments/non-automotive/33275d1342391177-mini-fridge-prison-tv-tv1.jpg" title="http://truestreetcars.com/forums/attachments/non-automotive/33275d1342391177-mini-fridge-prison-tv-tv1.jpg" id="forum_image_13176829"><img src="http://truestreetcars.com/forums/attachments/non-automotive/33275d1342391177-mini-fridge-prison-tv-tv1.jpg" /></a></p><p>see not much going on i was very disappointed... ive put gundam models together with more pieces&nbsp; </p><p>EDIT: i forgot to say before anyone asks they do have av inputs... also i need to find another one of these so i can mount a usb hub and a&nbsp; raspberry pi on the inside...plus of course a shit tome of LEDs lolz</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Puke_Flytalker]]></name>
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			<updated>2013-11-27T07:43:14Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>&quot;Keep-It-Down&quot;, the much less popular campaign by nintendo</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[defPREMIUM]]></name>
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			<updated>2013-11-27T07:35:09Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: USB - AV Grabbers convertor thingos????]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>Puke_Flytalker wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>yo get a prison tv you can get them for dirt cheap at goodwill or thrift stores but you have to use headphones because they dont have speakers..</p><p><a class="postimg" href="http://j-walkblog.com/images2/prisontv.png" title="http://j-walkblog.com/images2/prisontv.png" id="forum_image_81794996"><img src="http://j-walkblog.com/images2/prisontv.png" /></a></p></blockquote></div><p>I had no idea that these existed.</p><p>I need one... and a lot of LEDs...</p><p>It&#039;s like a Play-it-Loud television, just with no loud.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[katsumbhong]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/katsumbhong</uri>
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			<updated>2013-11-27T07:24:35Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: USB - AV Grabbers convertor thingos????]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>yo get a prison tv you can get them for dirt cheap at goodwill or thrift stores but you have to use headphones because they dont have speakers..</p><p><a class="postimg" href="http://j-walkblog.com/images2/prisontv.png" title="http://j-walkblog.com/images2/prisontv.png" id="forum_image_53152454"><img src="http://j-walkblog.com/images2/prisontv.png" /></a></p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Puke_Flytalker]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/Puke_Flytalker</uri>
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			<updated>2013-11-27T07:15:44Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Purchase a 2nd hand monitor?</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[katsumbhong]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/katsumbhong</uri>
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			<updated>2013-11-27T06:57:58Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Hey, I want to use my MacBook pro kind of like a TV, So I can use the screen to play my old PS2 and some plug n plays and that, Anyway I think it can be done with this <a href="http://www.jaycar.com.au/productView.asp?ID=XC4991" target="_blank">http://www.jaycar.com.au/productView.asp?ID=XC4991</a></p><p>Its obviously designed for recording and screen capturing but surely you could see in real time whats going???<br />I dont have room for a TV or another monitor in my space.</p><p>Has anyone had any experience with these. Advice would be greatly appreciated.</p><p>Thankyou</p><p>EVE-X</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[iamEVE-X]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/iamEVE-X</uri>
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			<updated>2013-11-27T06:42:22Z</updated>
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