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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Microtonal music in chiptune formats?]]></title>
			<link rel="alternate" href="https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/199927/#p199927"/>
			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>I just finished coding a very primitive, yet 6-channel polyphonic sequencer/performance tool for the Sega Genesis that takes advantage of the microtonal capabilities of the YM2612. I basically started out breadboarding Arduino projects with the YM2612 a while back and from there took a semi-recent and bare minimum crash course in 68000 assembly and the Genesis hardware to do this. I flashed it to my old Tototek flash cart and got it to work on my Model 1 but not on my Nomad unfortunately.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Cascading Operators]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/Cascading+Operators</uri>
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			<updated>2014-02-06T05:16:59Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Microtonal music in chiptune formats?]]></title>
			<link rel="alternate" href="https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/198411/#p198411"/>
			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>and not forgetting, using a waveform sample and shortening it will change the pitch. also change the wave though...</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Domu]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/Domu</uri>
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			<updated>2014-01-18T18:28:02Z</updated>
			<id>https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/198411/#p198411</id>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Microtonal music in chiptune formats?]]></title>
			<link rel="alternate" href="https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/198349/#p198349"/>
			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>sleepytimejesse wrote:</cite><blockquote><div class="quotebox"><cite>sandneil wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>seems like it would be easier to do this in the instrument but its still going to be a massive PITA and writing music shouldnt be a massive PITA...</p></blockquote></div><p>haha I mean one could argue we&#039;re already in PITA music making with using trackers/programming. Plus anything other than equal temperament is probably going to require more work across all mediums since typically in this day in age it involves manipulating equally tempered instruments/programs or inventing/programming your own instruments.</p></blockquote></div><p>PITA isnt black n white dude</p><p>theres a needle in your butt once and then theres a dagger in your butt every time you want to enter a note</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[sandneil]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/sandneil</uri>
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			<updated>2014-01-17T22:31:50Z</updated>
			<id>https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/198349/#p198349</id>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Microtonal music in chiptune formats?]]></title>
			<link rel="alternate" href="https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/198348/#p198348"/>
			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Man, this thread has turned into a treasure trove of useful information. Thanks everyone <img src="https://chipmusic.org/forums/img/smilies/big_smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="big_smile" /></p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[SketchMan3]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/SketchMan3</uri>
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			<updated>2014-01-17T22:13:08Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Microtonal music in chiptune formats?]]></title>
			<link rel="alternate" href="https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/198336/#p198336"/>
			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>sandneil wrote:</cite><blockquote><div class="quotebox"><cite>sleepytimejesse wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>You can use detune commands in Fami, I think. Usually used for doubling a non-detuned lead for that chorusy mega man lead vibe but you could probably get something more in depth with the time put in.</p></blockquote></div><p>seems like it would be easier to do this in the instrument but its still going to be a massive PITA and writing music shouldnt be a massive PITA...</p></blockquote></div><p>haha I mean one could argue we&#039;re already in PITA music making with using trackers/programming. Plus anything other than equal temperament is probably going to require more work across all mediums since typically in this day in age it involves manipulating equally tempered instruments/programs or inventing/programming your own instruments.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[sleepytimejesse]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/sleepytimejesse</uri>
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			<updated>2014-01-17T21:19:45Z</updated>
			<id>https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/198336/#p198336</id>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Microtonal music in chiptune formats?]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>sleepytimejesse wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>You can use detune commands in Fami, I think. Usually used for doubling a non-detuned lead for that chorusy mega man lead vibe but you could probably get something more in depth with the time put in.</p></blockquote></div><p>Or even better**, You can directly address the pitch register with MML (ppMCK) using <br /></p><div class="codebox"><pre><code>@n&lt;value&gt;,&lt;length&gt;</code></pre></div><p>Or you can use the y command to write to any address you wish. <br /></p><div class="codebox"><pre><code>y &lt;address&gt;,&lt;value&gt;</code></pre></div><p>**may not be better depending on who you ask <img src="https://chipmusic.org/forums/img/smilies/tongue.png" width="15" height="15" alt="tongue" /></p><br /><p><span style="color: #cc2222">EDIT:</span> I almost forgot. Theres also the D command which is a simple detune used like this. <br /></p><div class="codebox"><pre><code>A D-1c D-2c D-3c D-4c D-5c D-6c </code></pre></div><p>This illustrates a downward slope in pitch starting from c and dropping 6 register values.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[TylerBarnes]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/TylerBarnes</uri>
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			<updated>2014-01-17T18:51:08Z</updated>
			<id>https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/198330/#p198330</id>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Microtonal music in chiptune formats?]]></title>
			<link rel="alternate" href="https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/198324/#p198324"/>
			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>sleepytimejesse wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>You can use detune commands in Fami, I think. Usually used for doubling a non-detuned lead for that chorusy mega man lead vibe but you could probably get something more in depth with the time put in.</p></blockquote></div><p>seems like it would be easier to do this in the instrument but its still going to be a massive PITA and writing music shouldnt be a massive PITA...</p><div class="quotebox"><cite>boomlinde wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Protracker stores its note data as period values, i.e. the notes aren&#039;t necessarily strictly tuned to a table of pitches. One could probably just massage a protracker module into slightly different pitch conventions like just intonation, but it&#039;s going to be kind of hard to compose with a completely different set of pitches than those you&#039;ll end up hearing in after conversion.</p></blockquote></div><p>massage the tracker too?</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[sandneil]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/sandneil</uri>
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			<updated>2014-01-17T17:59:19Z</updated>
			<id>https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/198324/#p198324</id>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Microtonal music in chiptune formats?]]></title>
			<link rel="alternate" href="https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/198317/#p198317"/>
			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Protracker stores its note data as period values, i.e. the notes aren&#039;t necessarily strictly tuned to a table of pitches. One could probably just massage a protracker module into slightly different pitch conventions like just intonation, but it&#039;s going to be kind of hard to compose with a completely different set of pitches than those you&#039;ll end up hearing in after conversion.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[boomlinde]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/boomlinde</uri>
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			<updated>2014-01-17T17:21:52Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Microtonal music in chiptune formats?]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>i have been using onputer.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[bitjacker]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/bitjacker</uri>
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			<updated>2014-01-17T00:29:33Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Microtonal music in chiptune formats?]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>You can use detune commands in Fami, I think. Usually used for doubling a non-detuned lead for that chorusy mega man lead vibe but you could probably get something more in depth with the time put in.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[sleepytimejesse]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/sleepytimejesse</uri>
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			<updated>2014-01-17T00:07:15Z</updated>
			<id>https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/198263/#p198263</id>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Microtonal music in chiptune formats?]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>I am doing a little ditty with cymantic frequencies. it is touching.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[bitjacker]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/bitjacker</uri>
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			<updated>2014-01-16T22:09:56Z</updated>
			<id>https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/198242/#p198242</id>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Microtonal music in chiptune formats?]]></title>
			<link rel="alternate" href="https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/198241/#p198241"/>
			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>It&#039;s hardly the best way, but if I want to achieve this effect I just do a really quick portamento at the beginning of a note. For a small enough shift it&#039;s mostly unnoticeable.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Brother Android]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/Brother+Android</uri>
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			<updated>2014-01-16T21:58:31Z</updated>
			<id>https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/198241/#p198241</id>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Microtonal music in chiptune formats?]]></title>
			<link rel="alternate" href="https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/198220/#p198220"/>
			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>open modplug tracker has scala support just built right in if you want to do it the easy way</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[sandneil]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/sandneil</uri>
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			<updated>2014-01-16T18:22:17Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Microtonal music in chiptune formats?]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>PR8 has coarse and fine tuning per drum.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[zerolanding]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/zerolanding</uri>
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			<updated>2014-01-16T11:15:31Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Microtonal music in chiptune formats?]]></title>
			<link rel="alternate" href="https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/198153/#p198153"/>
			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Any song examples of this? It sounds interesting.</p><p>Edit: Just heard that .it song by sandneil. It&#039;s weird but kinda interesting.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[qb]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/qb</uri>
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			<updated>2014-01-15T20:22:14Z</updated>
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