<![CDATA[ChipMusic.org - Roland Aira line [TR-808/909, TB-303 redesign]]]> 2014-02-21T18:47:53Z PunBB https://chipmusic.org/forums/topic/13430/roland-aira-line-tr808909-tb303-redesign/ <![CDATA[Re: Roland Aira line [TR-808/909, TB-303 redesign]]]> jbuonacc wrote:

i'll get back to you in more detail on the other points that you've brought up, but i can copy/paste an answer to this one real quick:

DKSTR wrote:

What kind of gear you have used/owned?

(i might be forgetting a few...)

Skin flute player too I am guessing? Since you seem to have used everything... I mean... it makes sense.

]]> https://chipmusic.org/wedanced 2014-02-21T18:47:53Z https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/201556/#p201556 <![CDATA[Re: Roland Aira line [TR-808/909, TB-303 redesign]]]> I think that Roland Aira series misses a lot of things that are successful about the most recent korg products. They all seem like they are trying to capture the feel of the kaossilator, kaosspad, and micro korg rather then the current line of montrons, volcas, and mini ms-20. I think it wasn’t what people had hoped for and were mislead into believing via their campaigns. The price is really high compared to the korg versions of the Aira series and several years late. The only product I can give them credit for would be the tr-8 and that is just on the fact that it’s a decent sounding hardware emulation of impossibly expensive gear for cheaper (i think the ACB technology sounds pretty good).

Rather then focus on quality, the gear that they made seems to be all about the gimmicks that other companies have already done. The VT-1 wasn’t even a particularly useful/sought after roland product but they brought it back in the VT-3 for some reason. The VT-3 has a lot of modes but serves none of them well seemingly. A simple addition of midi in to control pitch and you would a decent vocoder but they seem to have omitted that. The biggest issue is that Aira never fully commit on what their products are supposed to be. Are they a new line of affordable digital beat making equipment or are they an update to roland’s old gems? In both cases they don’t seem to really get the point across.

Aira wants to ride the reputation of past roland products without delivering on the quality that they provided and tries to pass off gimmicks and stolen ideas (touchpads, shuffle AKA beat repeats/roll/fills, bright color LEDs, etc.) as innovation. The design looks even feel late as the color scheme looks like some toys i had from the 90’s. It all comes off to me as though Roland just doesn’t know what they are doing and are either playing catchup or trying to cash in on the success of things they don’t fully understand.

]]> https://chipmusic.org/wedanced 2014-02-21T18:42:12Z https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/201555/#p201555 <![CDATA[Re: Roland Aira line [TR-808/909, TB-303 redesign]]]> TSC wrote:

Future.

]]> https://chipmusic.org/Vile 2014-02-20T23:27:32Z https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/201470/#p201470 <![CDATA[Re: Roland Aira line [TR-808/909, TB-303 redesign]]]> Yea but the ori vt barely had any settings either. Its the same device basically for modern genres.

]]> https://chipmusic.org/herr_prof 2014-02-20T22:51:03Z https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/201468/#p201468 <![CDATA[Re: Roland Aira line [TR-808/909, TB-303 redesign]]]> Vile wrote:

From what I saw on this video here it looks like an autotune machine for the most part. Only inputs are mic, pedal and usb.

aww bummer looks like you're right hmm i'd be so much more interested in that if it was like guitar pedal size, but it's so hugeeee

]]> https://chipmusic.org/Fudgers 2014-02-20T17:33:52Z https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/201452/#p201452 <![CDATA[Re: Roland Aira line [TR-808/909, TB-303 redesign]]]> anthrium wrote:

the touch screen on the tb-3 is overkill. why does everything need a touch screen? ugghh hmm

For the same reason everything is outlined in seafoam green.

Future.

]]> https://chipmusic.org/TSC 2014-02-20T15:53:49Z https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/201440/#p201440 <![CDATA[Re: Roland Aira line [TR-808/909, TB-303 redesign]]]> anthrium wrote:

the touch screen on the tb-3 is overkill. why does everything need a touch screen? ugghh hmm

That was my take on it also.

]]> https://chipmusic.org/Limitbreak 2014-02-20T15:43:46Z https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/201438/#p201438 <![CDATA[Re: Roland Aira line [TR-808/909, TB-303 redesign]]]> the touch screen on the tb-3 is overkill. why does everything need a touch screen? ugghh hmm

]]> https://chipmusic.org/anthrium 2014-02-20T15:00:15Z https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/201437/#p201437 <![CDATA[Re: Roland Aira line [TR-808/909, TB-303 redesign]]]> Fudgers wrote:

on another note, can anybody tell if the VT-3 has an external in for the vocoder? I watched the video but I can't tell if it's just an autotune machine or actually a vocoder

From what I saw on this video here it looks like an autotune machine for the most part. Only inputs are mic, pedal and usb.

]]> https://chipmusic.org/Vile 2014-02-20T06:42:30Z https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/201413/#p201413 <![CDATA[Re: Roland Aira line [TR-808/909, TB-303 redesign]]]> jbuonacc wrote:
DKSTR wrote:

What kind of gear you have used/owned?

(i might be forgetting a few...)

Roland SH-101
Roland Juno-106....

portable television
a tape deck made for the blind...

you've used a portable television, a behringer multicom!? quite the list haha tongue

on another note, can anybody tell if the VT-3 has an external in for the vocoder? I watched the video but I can't tell if it's just an autotune machine or actually a vocoder

]]> https://chipmusic.org/Fudgers 2014-02-18T22:05:58Z https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/201257/#p201257 <![CDATA[Re: Roland Aira line [TR-808/909, TB-303 redesign]]]> I personally opted for a Bass Bot over the TB3. In my opinion it was worth every penny.

]]> https://chipmusic.org/Limitbreak 2014-02-18T19:20:57Z https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/201180/#p201180 <![CDATA[Re: Roland Aira line [TR-808/909, TB-303 redesign]]]> Personally, I don't care if it's true analog or not. It's got the sounds I like and it's fairly easy to use from the looks of it (I'll have to demo it before I make a final decision on that). Even though most would argue with me that there's no point in getting it unless it is true analog since you can simulate it with a good VST. Just my preference since I really lose all momentum when working with VSTs and I don't get the feel for the sounds as well without a knob or slider. Not to mention, I've wanted a 808 or 909 for about 10 years now but couldn't shell out the serious cash people were asking for them. On the other Aria items, like the VT-3, I've been wanting a good vocoder that wasn't attached to a keyboard and had the styles I was looking for. So that's another plus in my book. I'm a little sketchy on the TB-3 however, that touch screen seems a bit....fumbley? Nice acid sounds though and not bad on the price range. Could do without the touch screen and shave a bit more off the price though and it would be a total win for me.

]]> https://chipmusic.org/Vile 2014-02-18T06:38:13Z https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/201143/#p201143 <![CDATA[Re: Roland Aira line [TR-808/909, TB-303 redesign]]]> Not been around these parts a while because every thread turns into some sort of bickering pseudo troll shit.
For the record i would like to say "HI Jbuonacc, you come across as a massive dickhead. I apologize if you're not but im 99% sure you are. Thanks"
Anyway with a list of such amazing analog-pro-ness, why would you even give two shits about the Aria.

]]> https://chipmusic.org/Downstate 2014-02-18T05:43:29Z https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/201140/#p201140 <![CDATA[Re: Roland Aira line [TR-808/909, TB-303 redesign]]]> jbuonacc wrote:

well, he asked.

/shrug

plenty to talk about as far as AIRA, though i'm having a hard time believing that most anyone here would have much use for them. they look like they'll be VERY limited in scope as far as purpose. i can't honestly think of how many people need a modern-day 808/909/303 over something like an Electribe that offers more functionality. seem they've gotten very close with the sound of these, but they're still strictly limited to "that sound" with a few 'modern' touches.

Thanks for the list. Can I listen some music youve made with that stuff? Originally I just gave an opinion about the new Aira stuff, then gave you more insight why I said what I said and in the end I think we both arent that impressed. Thread back to track pls.

]]> https://chipmusic.org/DKSTR 2014-02-17T18:21:16Z https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/201088/#p201088 <![CDATA[Re: Roland Aira line [TR-808/909, TB-303 redesign]]]> well, he asked.

/shrug

plenty to talk about as far as AIRA, though i'm having a hard time believing that most anyone here would have much use for them. they look like they'll be VERY limited in scope as far as purpose. i can't honestly think of how many people need a modern-day 808/909/303 over something like an Electribe that offers more functionality. seem they've gotten very close with the sound of these, but they're still strictly limited to "that sound" with a few 'modern' touches.

]]> https://chipmusic.org/jbuonacc 2014-02-17T17:47:00Z https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/201080/#p201080