<![CDATA[ChipMusic.org - Where to begin with a C64]]> 2014-03-27T00:28:31Z PunBB https://chipmusic.org/forums/topic/13688/where-to-begin-with-a-c64/ <![CDATA[Re: Where to begin with a C64]]> You really only need the 1541-Ultimate if you're trying to play Maniac Mansion and run a BBS. uIEC/SD + JiffyDOS and a couple others like it are the best option. If you need maniac mansion you can get Easyflash to use with it. I think SID Wizard is the best DualSID option, MSSIAH editing is a bit of a hassle using joysticks or mice and MIDI isn't the best arrangement option(only single instruments per channel). Really makes the whole workflow take longer too. Cybertracker's great for single SID arrangements and user friendliness. No memorizing arbitrary hex-values, no clunky input device navigation. I suggest getting Dirmaster and making your own custom SID Wizard .D81 disk with everything loaded onto it off the .D64 disks. Learn the tracker and make badass tunes. wink

]]> https://chipmusic.org/Noplanet 2014-03-27T00:28:31Z https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/204421/#p204421 <![CDATA[Re: Where to begin with a C64]]> uIEC is excellent.  While it may not emulate a disk drive in a true sense, it works fine for saving your music and running 95% of games/apps out there (anything music related).  And it's only $60 or so, 1541 Ultimate is 4 times that :-)  Of course the 1541U is better, but I don't think someone new to C64 music creation will want to drop that kind of money right out of the gate (nor do they need to).

SID-Wizard is a great tracker, plus it's under current development.  There is also a dual SID version of it if you intend to add a second SID.  IMHO the best choice if you want something for free.  Also good is SID-Wizard's ability to export very tiny files for use within C64 demos or games, if that's your eventual goal.  Since SW is a current-gen tool, the interface and keyboard commands make more sense to modern users, at least I think.

If you have money to spend, MSSIAH is awesome.  Especially if you want to integrate your C64 into a modern studio setup.  Mouse-driven sequencing, and a bunch of MIDI enabled standalone SID instruments all in one package... it's worth it.

Both applications have EXTENSIVE documentation, which was/is key for me!

]]> https://chipmusic.org/Overthink 2014-03-26T20:01:44Z https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/204400/#p204400 <![CDATA[Re: Where to begin with a C64]]> If you want to use the real c-64 then I would STRONGLY suggest getting a 1541-ii ultimate.

As for software the most commonly used trackers today are goattracker (pc), sid-wizard (native) and Sid Duzz It (native)

Personally I would recommend defMON (native) but it is far from being the easiest to get into

You will want to learn about the SID chip first.
Things like hardrestart, adsr bugs, etc. http://csdb.dk forums are a good place to do that, after you've read through ant1's thread linked above.

]]> https://chipmusic.org/iLKke 2014-03-18T01:02:07Z https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/203710/#p203710 <![CDATA[Re: Where to begin with a C64]]> wailord wrote:

lol another noob who think he can make chipmusic withoyt gameboy XD

Who says I'm not?

]]> https://chipmusic.org/D3LL 2014-03-17T18:09:44Z https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/203674/#p203674 <![CDATA[Re: Where to begin with a C64]]> I'm also looking into MSSIAH, but more so for straight up MIDI based music.

]]> https://chipmusic.org/D3LL 2014-03-17T18:07:52Z https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/203673/#p203673 <![CDATA[Re: Where to begin with a C64]]> Cynthcart is my favorite thing ever smile

]]> https://chipmusic.org/thursdaycustoms 2014-03-17T17:05:05Z https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/203666/#p203666 <![CDATA[Re: Where to begin with a C64]]> akira^8GB wrote:
VCMG wrote:

^this. It's probably also worth it to buy a disk drive emulator like uIEC or 1541 Ultimate

uIEC is not a disk drive emulator.

Ah, my bad. Still pretty useful though.

]]> https://chipmusic.org/VCMG 2014-03-17T17:04:20Z https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/203665/#p203665 <![CDATA[Re: Where to begin with a C64]]> lol another noob who think he can make chipmusic withoyt gameboy XD

]]> https://chipmusic.org/wailord 2014-03-17T16:40:39Z https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/203659/#p203659 <![CDATA[Re: Where to begin with a C64]]> VCMG wrote:

^this. It's probably also worth it to buy a disk drive emulator like uIEC or 1541 Ultimate

uIEC is not a disk drive emulator.

]]> https://chipmusic.org/akira%5E8GB 2014-03-17T16:20:35Z https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/203655/#p203655 <![CDATA[Re: Where to begin with a C64]]> ^this. It's probably also worth it to buy a disk drive emulator like uIEC or 1541 Ultimate if you want to use SIDWiz or other native programs on actual hardware. (plus you can play lots of games with it as well smile )

]]> https://chipmusic.org/VCMG 2014-03-17T15:34:14Z https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/203646/#p203646 <![CDATA[Re: Where to begin with a C64]]> Unless you are dead set on using cynthcart try SID-Wizard in an emulator or goattracker first!

]]> https://chipmusic.org/Jellica 2014-03-17T07:49:43Z https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/203623/#p203623 <![CDATA[Re: Where to begin with a C64]]> Mrwimmer wrote:

The search bar, also:

http://chipmusic.org/forums/topic/8104/ … -tutorial/

Thanks smile

]]> https://chipmusic.org/D3LL 2014-03-16T20:33:33Z https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/203584/#p203584 <![CDATA[Re: Where to begin with a C64]]> The search bar, also:

http://chipmusic.org/forums/topic/8104/ … -tutorial/

]]> https://chipmusic.org/Mrwimmer 2014-03-16T20:16:17Z https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/203582/#p203582 <![CDATA[Where to begin with a C64]]> I'm currently looking into using a commodore 64, but I really know nothing about the computer or what to look for...
Could someone help me out?

]]> https://chipmusic.org/D3LL 2014-03-16T19:10:05Z https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/203581/#p203581