I'm still not satisfied with Chipcrusher unfortunately. I've been mostly using DMG-01 and GBA_clam with the bits set to 16 and the resample rate pretty high. I've turned off the noise. The result is ok, but it still doesn't make high quality sounds sound like something you'd hear on a SNES. Even when I put the high quality sound through a sampler to remove the realism that Kontakt adds through round robin techniques and stuff.

And sandneil, I attempt to do what you were talking about in audacity but for some reason the wav file became unusable (at least in c700) after I lowered the bit rate. Any clue why that might be happening?

Any other ideas? I wish it was possible to access the exact thing that the game makers were running samples through because I can't seem to find anything that's as accurate as I'm looking for. :c

maybe c700 only supports 16 bit samples or whatever. you can always load them back into audacity and convert them back to 16bit/44.1khz - the quality reduction is not reversible.

part of the SNES's distinct sound is not the quality of the samples but the size of them - it only had a few hundred kilobytes of memory. running a 10 megabyte kontakt patch through chipcrusher is arguably going to be further from the mark than using 100 kilobytes worth of high quality samples. a lot of the sound of the SNES comes from looped samples as well. of course its hard to really count the size of the samples you're using in a DAW, its way easier to do in a tracker.

try making a 100kB s3m file or something and you'll probably find that it sounds pretty retro! of course you can do the same thing in a DAW but i think youll find it harder

running the samples through chipcrusher at 16bit w/ a high sample rate will sound about as rough as the Red Book audio standard...

It didn't make sense to me either but it sounds way better than 8 bit/low sample rate. If you set the bit rate or sample rate to low numbers, the sound becomes unbearably screechy and resembles nothing that I have heard on a SNES. But if I heard the 16bit sample coming from any audio book I would demand for my money back, lol.

I appreciate the advice but I have no idea what this stuff means! XD

Also don't forget dat REVERB~~~

SNES had 8 channels, btw.

And sandneil, I attempt to do what you were talking about in audacity but for some reason the wav file became unusable (at least in c700) after I lowered the bit rate. Any clue why that might be happening?

Any other ideas? I wish it was possible to access the exact thing that the game makers were running samples through because I can't seem to find anything that's as accurate as I'm looking for. :c

Reusing sounds from a game would be illegal wouldn't it? Or were these all just sounds from the chip?

I use a lot of SNES sounds in my music/game soundtracks and I've come to this conclusion:

I don't think these sounds are Nintendo proprietary, and so the only issue I can see them having is with the cracking of their ROM's to extract the sounds. And this is something I don't think you would be accused of if you just found the soundfont online and happened to like it. A lot of the sounds you hear in SNES games are generic synth patches which have been reduced in quality to fit on their games, I believe. Anyway as someone who has used and built many SNES soundfonts publicly for years (my music using these sounds has been featured by the likes of Kotaku and Destructoid, I can't really imagine me going much more public than that), I wouldn't worry.

if you just want to trash some samples "offline", any audio editor will do. resampling to 8khz or so will sound pretty crap already and if you want to go further you can try converting to some dpcm format or reducing the bit depth (16 bit to 8 bit)

original:
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/140 … iginal.wav
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/140 … iginal.wav

8khz:
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/140 … d_8khz.wav
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/140 … d_8khz.wav

4bit 8khz ima adpcm:
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/140 … s_mono.wav
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/140 … s_mono.wav

i use goldwave which is cool and easy and has a batch convertor so you could do all your samples in one go, it costs money though, for free you could probably do the exact same stuff in audacity, or if you are technically minded use sox

the other thing that often sounds crap is to disable any form of interpolation but if youre using a DAW that option is quite often not available. maybe best to stick with that c700 vsts if youre not using a tracker

SNES ?, THIS! >> SPC700 Vsti

THIS IS AWESOME!!!

However... Reusing sounds from a game would be illegal wouldn't it? Or were these all just sounds from the chip? (This answer to this question is really important to me so if anyone can answer it, please help me out! )

Also, after using chipcrusher I see what people were talking about. Still though, I'm not 100% satisfied with it. Back in the SNES days, what software were the devs using to sample audio?

Is there a way I can use this C700 plug-in to load in a wav and then compress and crush it like the samples were compressed back then? What I mean to say is that I would rather not run this software through an effects processor like chipcrusher. Instead it seems like it would be better (and easier) to just load a sample into piece of software and have that software attempt to create an instrument based on one audio sample.

EDIT: Maybe soundfonts are what I am looking for? At this point I just want the ability to create dated sounding samples out of high quality sound recordings. If this is the route I need to take I'll be using this software:
http://www.kvraudio.com/product/tx16wx- … -by-cwitec

I'll check it out tomorrow... Time for bed for now. If anyone knows anything about soundfonts, please let me know!

Or grab some samples from this little gem: http://www.bluemoon.ee/history/scwin/ (Piano roll sample-based module sequencer). If you Insert Voice then write a note and export the song as wav the quality is better than if you export the Instrument as wav from the "View>Instruments" screen.

It only uses the DMG Legacy channels, so not what OP is looking for.

But no one has said much about SNES or N64 stuff... Is there anything related to that available?

SNES ?, THIS! >> SPC700 Vsti
ALL IN ONE,
An accurate Japanese freebie called C700
WIN/MAC Vsti
Accurate BRR encoding / decoding
Accurate LOOP point setting...
FIR filter delay emulation
LOADS samples from SPC files or encode / play your own...etc
Really cool and accurate SNES sound chip emu!

MUST HAVE,GRAB IT !
http://picopicose.com/software.html
SPC archive >> http://snesmusic.org/v2/select.php?view … mp;limit=0

On the other hand If you need something more raw and crunchy like playing samples on the volume register of a PSG chip ( particular 4bit logarithmic scale)
or even raw 1bit PWM, my SuperPSG VST (win) can do that.
If you need to make some crazy sounds there is also an YM / AY (Atari ST) emulated hardware envelope you can mess with!
It is like having the Sega Master System Chip with the Atari ST MusicMon features...(, SID voice, Buzzers, Sync effect etc...) even wavetables are possible!
The concept was to reproduce perfectly the Master System Chip and push the limit of what have been done in the past with it.
Every parameters are also automatable in your DAW of choice in real time.
Needless to say that all of this has been tested on real hardware and works.
Chip for cheap
check for SuperPSG (all the infos you may want are in the manual) >> http://www.alyjameslab.com
thread here >> http://chipmusic.org/forums/topic/12578 … -extended/
Still, I need to find the time to make more demos of the special features!

From there I'll probably just write down the settings and bounce my audio track every time I complete something (which will be really annoying) because of the 5 minute demo.

But no one has said much about SNES or N64 stuff... Is there anything related to that available?