<![CDATA[ChipMusic.org - Syncing LSDJ with FL studio using Nanoloops USB Midi interface]]> 2014-04-02T23:53:15Z PunBB https://chipmusic.org/forums/topic/13944/syncing-lsdj-with-fl-studio-using-nanoloops-usb-midi-interface/ <![CDATA[Re: Syncing LSDJ with FL studio using Nanoloops USB Midi interface]]> OMG!!! thank you sooooo much! I fixed it! For some reason FL studio MIDI code when play is pressed is: 'start,stop,continue, midi clock, midi clock'. that would explain why it starts slow then speeds up. Why would FL studio output this?

I filtered it so it only output MIDI clock. This is a great program. thankfully I use XP.

]]> https://chipmusic.org/Anonymouse 2014-04-02T23:53:15Z https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/205157/#p205157 <![CDATA[Re: Syncing LSDJ with FL studio using Nanoloops USB Midi interface]]> You would need to use MIDI-Yoke as a virtual 'patch cable' between FL Studio and MIDI-OX to monitor what it is sending out:

http://www.midiox.com/myoke.htm

]]> https://chipmusic.org/uXe 2014-04-02T23:40:45Z https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/205155/#p205155 <![CDATA[Re: Syncing LSDJ with FL studio using Nanoloops USB Midi interface]]> Ive tried midi ox and can get lsdj to play find when testing it in midi ox. I dont know how to monitor the output of FL studio though. It must output something weird.

]]> https://chipmusic.org/Anonymouse 2014-04-02T23:25:17Z https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/205153/#p205153 <![CDATA[Re: Syncing LSDJ with FL studio using Nanoloops USB Midi interface]]> You could try using something like http://www.midiox.com/ to look at what exactly is being output from FL Studio and Reaper, and if there is any difference in the actual MIDI commands being sent? and if so, use a little bit of scripting to make them match...

]]> https://chipmusic.org/uXe 2014-04-02T20:21:04Z https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/205127/#p205127 <![CDATA[Re: Syncing LSDJ with FL studio using Nanoloops USB Midi interface]]> shizcake wrote:

not sure, never used lsdj, but i think i read sth about lsdj's sync modes being picky.
you have to set it to midi (not slave) or the start/stop stuff doesn't work properly...something about starting one tick late, if i remember correctly.

or so, maybe someone elso knows more.

Ive been trying midi mode in LSDJ but when play (from beginning is pressed) it just plays one beat then stops. If I change to slave it just plays a click then stops. But in Slave mode when I play/pause/play it will start without starting off slow then speeding up. Its weird that it works flawlessly in Reaper but not FL studio. Ive been trying to research how to change midi clock signal in FL studio so that it is similar to Reaper. I need it to be standard though as I will be running it with other external hardware.

]]> https://chipmusic.org/Anonymouse 2014-04-02T11:43:59Z https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/205067/#p205067 <![CDATA[Re: Syncing LSDJ with FL studio using Nanoloops USB Midi interface]]> not sure, never used lsdj, but i think i read sth about lsdj's sync modes being picky.
you have to set it to midi (not slave) or the start/stop stuff doesn't work properly...something about starting one tick late, if i remember correctly.

or so, maybe someone elso knows more.

]]> https://chipmusic.org/shizcake 2014-04-02T09:45:49Z https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/205060/#p205060 <![CDATA[Re: Syncing LSDJ with FL studio using Nanoloops USB Midi interface]]> uXe wrote:

Here's one thing I'd check in your FL Studio MIDI settings:

"Send master sync - Master sync tells connected MIDI devices to follow FL Studio's start/stop/play commands, etc. FL Studio will send a 'Master sync' signal only if the button is selected (orange).

NOTE: Make sure Enable MIDI master sync is selected in the Options menu, 'Send master sync' will be disabled otherwise."

Thanks for that. Yeah ive 'got set master sync' enabled. I only use FL studio to control hardware and ive never had a problem with it. All my other external drums and synths work fine.

The Nanoloop USB MIDI adapter is set to "sync" mode. When I press play in FL studio it plays the first beat on LSDJ then stops. If I pause then play in FL studio it will play the first beat slow then speed up to tempo. I have tried this along side other hardware machines and they play fine. Im thinking this adapter may be incompatible with FL Studio.

]]> https://chipmusic.org/Anonymouse 2014-04-02T00:01:22Z https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/205037/#p205037 <![CDATA[Re: Syncing LSDJ with FL studio using Nanoloops USB Midi interface]]> Here's one thing I'd check in your FL Studio MIDI settings:

"Send master sync - Master sync tells connected MIDI devices to follow FL Studio's start/stop/play commands, etc. FL Studio will send a 'Master sync' signal only if the button is selected (orange).

NOTE: Make sure Enable MIDI master sync is selected in the Options menu, 'Send master sync' will be disabled otherwise."

]]> https://chipmusic.org/uXe 2014-04-01T23:42:56Z https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/205035/#p205035 <![CDATA[Re: Syncing LSDJ with FL studio using Nanoloops USB Midi interface]]> Ive managed to get it synced in Reaper. Ill try another version of FL studio

EDIT: Tried FL Studio 10. Its exactly the same. When I hit play from a stopped position in FL it wont start LSDJ. It works flawlessly in Reaper though. I wonder what the problem is. All my other drum machines start ok.

]]> https://chipmusic.org/Anonymouse 2014-04-01T16:18:59Z https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/204978/#p204978 <![CDATA[Re: Syncing LSDJ with FL studio using Nanoloops USB Midi interface]]> Jansaw wrote:

Your hardware drum machines are different machines. Every peripheral is going to act differently. It's like... every person communicates differently with you. Some do better, some don't.

I have used the usb boy successfully with Logic, using lsdj. It's great fun! Haven't tried what you're using.
I used it in a more intensive logic project, with some complex mastering/eqing vsts, and latency was pretty bad no matter what sample rate I chose. All I did was bounce/export the stuff I wanted to be effected by the vsts before I hooked up the gameboy. I then put the exported track on one track, and deleted the original tracks+plugins, leaving just a wav track for the gameboy to sync with. Worked like a charm.

Your system needs to share all of its memory, so latency becomes an issue. Some things that make this happen are plugins, certain vsts/audio units, having many instruments in one file, having very high quality samples and a high sample rate... anything that takes a lot of cpu.

Thank you for your reply. Im testing the system with only a FL kick, no track has been produced. No matter what combination I use the first beat starts slow then it catches up to the tempo but is overall out of sync with fl studio. mGB works perfectly.

When the Nanoloop USB-MIDI is in sync mode it will not start if i hit play. It just plays the first beat then stops. But, if i pause it and restart it will start without the slow first beat and how it should. But not in the right place.

Ive tried different machines and different versions of LSDJ, all with the same results. i also tried Reaper. It does the same.

]]> https://chipmusic.org/Anonymouse 2014-04-01T16:10:46Z https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/204974/#p204974 <![CDATA[Re: Syncing LSDJ with FL studio using Nanoloops USB Midi interface]]> Your hardware drum machines are different machines. Every peripheral is going to act differently. It's like... every person communicates differently with you. Some do better, some don't.

I have used the usb boy successfully with Logic, using lsdj. It's great fun! Haven't tried what you're using.
I used it in a more intensive logic project, with some complex mastering/eqing vsts, and latency was pretty bad no matter what sample rate I chose. All I did was bounce/export the stuff I wanted to be effected by the vsts before I hooked up the gameboy. I then put the exported track on one track, and deleted the original tracks+plugins, leaving just a wav track for the gameboy to sync with. Worked like a charm.

Your system needs to share all of its memory, so latency becomes an issue. Some things that make this happen are plugins, certain vsts/audio units, having many instruments in one file, having very high quality samples and a high sample rate... anything that takes a lot of cpu.

]]> https://chipmusic.org/Jansaw 2014-04-01T15:58:09Z https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/204969/#p204969 <![CDATA[Re: Syncing LSDJ with FL studio using Nanoloops USB Midi interface]]> I dont think its the offset or latency that is the problem as all my other hardware drum machines play in sync in FL Studio. I changed the setting of the USB MIDI adaptor to Sync. In this mode I need to (in FL Studio) hit play, then pause and play again for it to start on the gameboy. The first beat plays slow then it catches up to the tempo. This makes it out of sync. It basically does this in the other setting.

Has anyone has this interface to work correctly?

]]> https://chipmusic.org/Anonymouse 2014-04-01T14:33:03Z https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/204959/#p204959 <![CDATA[Re: Syncing LSDJ with FL studio using Nanoloops USB Midi interface]]> adjust the offset

]]> https://chipmusic.org/Boner 2014-04-01T09:29:57Z https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/204943/#p204943 <![CDATA[Re: Syncing LSDJ with FL studio using Nanoloops USB Midi interface]]> The Silph Scope wrote:

Yeah that sounds like a latency thing.
In FL, hit F10 and go to audio. How many milliseconds does it say the Buffer Length is?
The smaller that number is the less latency you'll have. I usually do fine with about 12ms or so.

I have to put the latency up to 186ms for them to play in sync. Im using fl studio 11

]]> https://chipmusic.org/Anonymouse 2014-04-01T08:13:13Z https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/204941/#p204941 <![CDATA[Re: Syncing LSDJ with FL studio using Nanoloops USB Midi interface]]> Yeah that sounds like a latency thing.
In FL, hit F10 and go to audio. How many milliseconds does it say the Buffer Length is?
The smaller that number is the less latency you'll have. I usually do fine with about 12ms or so.

]]> https://chipmusic.org/The+Silph+Scope 2014-04-01T05:32:36Z https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/204938/#p204938