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	<updated>2010-05-31T03:05:25Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: DIY projection]]></title>
			<link rel="alternate" href="https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/24814/#p24814"/>
			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>So, my ancient slide projector also came with an ancient bulb. Which is now burnt out! <img src="https://chipmusic.org/forums/img/smilies/smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="smile" /></p><p>So, I&#039;m debating whether I should spend the money for a new GE CZA bulb, which would be maybe $20, or upgrade to a 100 watt white LED star, which would put out more lumens with less power and less heat for $35. Hmmm...</p>]]></content>
			<author>
				<name><![CDATA[arfink]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/arfink</uri>
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			<updated>2010-05-31T03:05:25Z</updated>
			<id>https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/24814/#p24814</id>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: DIY projection]]></title>
			<link rel="alternate" href="https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/24676/#p24676"/>
			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>cool and awesome</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[ohmtek81]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/ohmtek81</uri>
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			<updated>2010-05-29T11:38:46Z</updated>
			<id>https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/24676/#p24676</id>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: DIY projection]]></title>
			<link rel="alternate" href="https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/24674/#p24674"/>
			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>THAT IS AWESOME! .... similar to something i did.... old LCD monitor... Overhead acitate projector. same idea. bit of higher res output</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[LastKnight]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/LastKnight</uri>
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			<updated>2010-05-29T11:04:45Z</updated>
			<id>https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/24674/#p24674</id>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: DIY projection]]></title>
			<link rel="alternate" href="https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/24655/#p24655"/>
			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>So, the real question is, given the kind of output this makes, and the very attractive price of the hardware needed, does anyone want a tut? <img src="https://chipmusic.org/forums/img/smilies/wink.png" width="15" height="15" alt="wink" /></p><p>I&#039;m quite pleased with it, for a less than $20 projector solution. Now I just need to case it up better. You can see in the video, I have a spare mini-fan pointing at the thing to help reduce heat buildup near the LCD.</p>]]></content>
			<author>
				<name><![CDATA[arfink]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/arfink</uri>
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			<updated>2010-05-29T02:11:57Z</updated>
			<id>https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/24655/#p24655</id>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: DIY projection]]></title>
			<link rel="alternate" href="https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/24611/#p24611"/>
			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>OK, got video and pics!</p><p>Video:<br /><a href="http://www.vimeo.com/12113411" target="_blank">http://www.vimeo.com/12113411</a></p><p>Here is a shot of the screen I used before ripping it apart. Shown with the NES for size comparison.<br /><a class="postimg" href="http://lh5.ggpht.com/_KBfTELyhMGU/S__zBqhbrpI/AAAAAAAAAY0/v23uZnXCb24/s400/DSCF0030.JPG" title="http://lh5.ggpht.com/_KBfTELyhMGU/S__zBqhbrpI/AAAAAAAAAY0/v23uZnXCb24/s400/DSCF0030.JPG" id="forum_image_86196275"><img src="http://lh5.ggpht.com/_KBfTELyhMGU/S__zBqhbrpI/AAAAAAAAAY0/v23uZnXCb24/s400/DSCF0030.JPG" /></a></p><p>Here are some shots of the final output:<br /><a class="postimg" href="http://lh4.ggpht.com/_KBfTELyhMGU/S__zB_2ZRpI/AAAAAAAAAY4/zASYJTl5OtU/s400/DSCF0039.JPG" title="http://lh4.ggpht.com/_KBfTELyhMGU/S__zB_2ZRpI/AAAAAAAAAY4/zASYJTl5OtU/s400/DSCF0039.JPG" id="forum_image_55455163"><img src="http://lh4.ggpht.com/_KBfTELyhMGU/S__zB_2ZRpI/AAAAAAAAAY4/zASYJTl5OtU/s400/DSCF0039.JPG" /></a></p><p><a class="postimg" href="http://lh3.ggpht.com/_KBfTELyhMGU/S__zCAC3ruI/AAAAAAAAAY8/ukQe_YuIEKI/s400/DSCF0042.JPG" title="http://lh3.ggpht.com/_KBfTELyhMGU/S__zCAC3ruI/AAAAAAAAAY8/ukQe_YuIEKI/s400/DSCF0042.JPG" id="forum_image_94008382"><img src="http://lh3.ggpht.com/_KBfTELyhMGU/S__zCAC3ruI/AAAAAAAAAY8/ukQe_YuIEKI/s400/DSCF0042.JPG" /></a></p><p><a class="postimg" href="http://lh6.ggpht.com/_KBfTELyhMGU/S__zCWuR3GI/AAAAAAAAAZA/cNZKkenQTXM/s400/DSCF0043.JPG" title="http://lh6.ggpht.com/_KBfTELyhMGU/S__zCWuR3GI/AAAAAAAAAZA/cNZKkenQTXM/s400/DSCF0043.JPG" id="forum_image_15826484"><img src="http://lh6.ggpht.com/_KBfTELyhMGU/S__zCWuR3GI/AAAAAAAAAZA/cNZKkenQTXM/s400/DSCF0043.JPG" /></a></p>]]></content>
			<author>
				<name><![CDATA[arfink]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/arfink</uri>
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			<updated>2010-05-28T17:49:10Z</updated>
			<id>https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/24611/#p24611</id>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: DIY projection]]></title>
			<link rel="alternate" href="https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/24415/#p24415"/>
			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Yes, but in this case handling the heat means pointing another fan at the projector, so it&#039;s a bit of a hack job. The whole thing is really one big hack job, held together with hot glue, believe it or not! Anyways, with a little patience and some jimmy rigging, I think I&#039;m all set to watch Wrath of Kahn on the big screen tonight. The big, pixelated screen! <img src="https://chipmusic.org/forums/img/smilies/smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="smile" /> I&#039;ll take some video of that. I have a video of my projector running GlitchNES as well, but no audio because I realised after the fact that the camera has no mic. I&#039;ll have to see about uploading it this evening.</p><p>Also, I got a special surprise from my sister today. She works at the university of St. Thomas chemical stockrooms, and while cleaning out a little used storage room she came across a nice little 25&quot; projector screen that stands on the table top. It&#039;s really neat to use with the projector, because bringing the projector closer results in a very bright picture.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[arfink]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/arfink</uri>
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			<updated>2010-05-27T01:45:38Z</updated>
			<id>https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/24415/#p24415</id>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: DIY projection]]></title>
			<link rel="alternate" href="https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/24395/#p24395"/>
			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Sounds like it&#039;s progressing nicely, and it&#039;s great that it passed the heat benchmark; Handling the heat was what sounded like the biggest concern. Looking forward to footage/images!</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[fluidvolt]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/fluidvolt</uri>
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			<updated>2010-05-26T21:44:25Z</updated>
			<id>https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/24395/#p24395</id>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: DIY projection]]></title>
			<link rel="alternate" href="https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/24391/#p24391"/>
			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>OH yeah, I promised some pics and video and stuff. I&#039;ll get to it this evening.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[arfink]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/arfink</uri>
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			<updated>2010-05-26T21:12:52Z</updated>
			<id>https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/24391/#p24391</id>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: DIY projection]]></title>
			<link rel="alternate" href="https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/24388/#p24388"/>
			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Hey, great news! I got everything put together pretty well and it looks OK. And by looks OK, I mean the corners are slightly blurry, the image gets a little washed out in places, and the pixels are HUGE. But it&#039;s stable even when it gets hot, and the image quality is just fine for Super Mario Bros. and GlitchNES, though I&#039;d go nuts if I had to use NTRQ on this, or anything which required alot of reading. </p><p>I haven&#039;t tried my projector with anything besides the NES, so I&#039;ll let you know how the VCR goes! Wrath of Kahn, here I come!</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[arfink]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/arfink</uri>
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			<updated>2010-05-26T21:07:16Z</updated>
			<id>https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/24388/#p24388</id>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: DIY projection]]></title>
			<link rel="alternate" href="https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/22798/#p22798"/>
			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Yes, seeing as it&#039;s a video projector and so seeing a video would be... uh... good?</p><p>Well, as for doing a projection with a gameboy, that&#039;s going to be very tricky. I would use either a Gameboy Pocket or a Gameboy SP AGS-101. See, the deal is that except for the AGS-101, all gameboys have ribbon cables going behind the screen, which requires that they be desoldered and moved. Something I have never done successfully or seen done by anyone else.</p><p>And I don&#039;t have any spare gameboys right now. Not that I&#039;m willing to cut up, that is. My GB pocket is precious to me, what with the working homemade backlight which was a total PAIN to get in there. Projected DMG would look like garbage since it&#039;s got tons of ghosting problems and would make the image far too dark. </p><p>Also, I&#039;m changing screens for one that will be easier to hack up and has slightly better specs:<br /><a href="http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&amp;item=250628445975&amp;fromMakeTrack=true&amp;ssPageName=VIP:watchlink:top:en" target="_blank">http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi &#133; ink:top:en</a></p><p>This one, unlike that Audiovox, isn&#039;t refurbed. Resolution is supposedly 480x234, which is... not exactly standard resolution. Picture quality will not be very high, but this is supposed to be a super cheap projector project. It&#039;ll be good enough for the NES, which is what it&#039;s for.</p><p>EDIT: found a lovely bunch of pictures of the insides of this screen, courtesy of the guys over at BenHeck forums:<br /><a href="http://www.forums.benheck.com/viewtopic.php?f=30&amp;t=31251&amp;start=0" target="_blank">http://www.forums.benheck.com/viewtopic &#133; mp;start=0</a></p><p>Looks quite dandy, should work perfectly for my use.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[arfink]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/arfink</uri>
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			<updated>2010-05-13T05:20:51Z</updated>
			<id>https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/22798/#p22798</id>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: DIY projection]]></title>
			<link rel="alternate" href="https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/22787/#p22787"/>
			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>If you get this working you should make a video and/or a video+tutorial. I would love to see you get the Game Boy projector working. You should try again. and Good Luck with your projects!</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[SurfaceDragon]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/SurfaceDragon</uri>
			</author>
			<updated>2010-05-13T00:53:43Z</updated>
			<id>https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/22787/#p22787</id>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: DIY projection]]></title>
			<link rel="alternate" href="https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/22768/#p22768"/>
			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>This is an interesting experiment you&#039;re working on, I&#039;m looking forward to seeing what happens!</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[fluidvolt]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/fluidvolt</uri>
			</author>
			<updated>2010-05-12T21:37:27Z</updated>
			<id>https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/22768/#p22768</id>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[DIY projection]]></title>
			<link rel="alternate" href="https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/22749/#p22749"/>
			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>So, I&#039;m not sure if this is the proper place to post this, but here goes:</p><p>While I&#039;ve been waiting ages of eternal days for my NTRQ NVSRAM bank chips to arrive my mind has wandered back to a previous project of mine, which is a DIY video projector built inside of an old slide projector. Slide projectors are easy to get and very cheap, and their replacement bulbs are also very cheap. I found a Kodak 500 Ektagraph for $4 at the thrift shop and brought it home.</p><p>I previously experimented with a stripped down Gameboy pocket LCD, but in relocating the ribbon cable I managed to partially damage the LCD, rendering the experiment useless, even though just knowing that it worked was fun.</p><p>So now I have a different screen in mind, a 2.5 inch Audiovox display:<br /><a href="http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Audiovox-2-5-LCD-Rear-View-RV-Backup-Video-Monitor-NR-_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQhashZitem58879f5ba3QQitemZ380232489891QQptZMotorsQ5fRVQ5fTrailerQ5fCamperQ5fPartsQ5fAccessories" target="_blank">http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Audiovox &#133; ccessories</a></p><p>This thing can take a standard NTSC composite input and runs off 12v DC. Removing the backlight should be simple, and then I might also remove the anti-glare layer on the front, assuming it has one. </p><p>Today I ran some pretty extensive heat buildup tests to find out whether it would get too hot inside. My very un-scientific method was to tape plastic food wrap to the closed slide aperture, which is where heat buildup would be a problem for an LCD panel. I left it installed in the running projector for over an hour and the plastic didn&#039;t melt, so I&#039;m going to assume that it&#039;ll be safe for the LCD.</p><p>I&#039;m going to post more progress and pictures here as I do this project, and please feel free to leave comments. If this works then my total cost for this video projector will be a whopping $19, not including the dead Gameboy pocket I killed in my first attempt.</p>]]></content>
			<author>
				<name><![CDATA[arfink]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/arfink</uri>
			</author>
			<updated>2010-05-12T19:42:45Z</updated>
			<id>https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/22749/#p22749</id>
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