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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Has anyone cracked chipzel's code of making awesome instruments?]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>chipzel wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Hey!</p><p>The .sav was included in the digital copy of Spectra but I&#039;ve just discovered that the link is broken. Here it is:<br /><a href="https://www.dropbox.com/s/b8bpnyaoa6ql1vb/Tokyo%20Skies.lsdsng" target="_blank">https://www.dropbox.com/s/b8bpnyaoa6ql1 &#133; ies.lsdsng</a></p></blockquote></div><p>does anyone have this?</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[defensem3ch]]></name>
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			<updated>2019-07-11T15:44:50Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Has anyone cracked chipzel's code of making awesome instruments?]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>Monotron wrote:</cite><blockquote><div class="quotebox"><cite>L-tron wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Sounds like vibrato. Probably with a different vibrato type than the standard. Could be a table with some p commands. This thread is kinda fun now. haha.</p></blockquote></div><p><a href="https://soundcloud.com/treyfrey/phantasmagoria-off-of-refresh" target="_blank">https://soundcloud.com/treyfrey/phantas &#133; of-refresh</a> This is a better example, that super phasey synth right after the intro about 30 seconds in. It&#039;s so beautiful and I&#039;ve only heard treyfrey really nail this sound. also dem kicks</p></blockquote></div><p>I see. That sounds like a really intense Vibrato command such as V86 or something along those lines, with some pulse width modulation. And of course there&#039;s a post production filter on it as well.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[L-tron]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/L-tron</uri>
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			<updated>2014-05-21T23:24:27Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Has anyone cracked chipzel's code of making awesome instruments?]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>Kris k wrote:</cite><blockquote><div class="quotebox"><cite>metatronaut wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>It sounds a bit like she&#039;s using a lot of Zef&#039;s techniques. You can get his sav files when you download Parallel Processing.</p></blockquote></div><p>That seems unlikely to me- Chibi uses the NES for her tracks, which doesn&#039;t have the same WAV channel capabilities that LSDJ gives you. If I understand correctly, her songs use some special custom code and make use of some expansion channels on the NES to get those insane wobble sounds.</p><br /><p>That being said, Zef/Danimal&#039;s sav files are a goldmine for LSDJ sound design and people should absolutely check them out. I&#039;ve dug into them a little bit myself tbh.</p></blockquote></div><p>i think chibi-techs wobble sounds are very much to do with engine speed (which can be customized within FT)... could be wrong though</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[token]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/token</uri>
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			<updated>2014-05-21T11:07:27Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Has anyone cracked chipzel's code of making awesome instruments?]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>Monotron wrote:</cite><blockquote><div class="quotebox"><cite>L-tron wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Sounds like vibrato. Probably with a different vibrato type than the standard. Could be a table with some p commands. This thread is kinda fun now. haha.</p></blockquote></div><p><a href="https://soundcloud.com/treyfrey/phantasmagoria-off-of-refresh" target="_blank">https://soundcloud.com/treyfrey/phantas &#133; of-refresh</a> This is a better example, that super phasey synth right after the intro about 30 seconds in. It&#039;s so beautiful and I&#039;ve only heard treyfrey really nail this sound. also dem kicks</p></blockquote></div><p>That sounds like several pulse channels playing a chord with really high V command values to roughen up the sound to me.&nbsp; like VF6-ish with the vibrato type set at high frequency.&nbsp; He might modulate the V commands to create a more organic phase-y sound too.</p><p>It also sounds like there is a bit of filter sweep going on there. Trey does use some post-DMG fx from time to time, so you have to take that into account.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[roboctopus]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/roboctopus</uri>
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			<updated>2014-05-20T14:06:46Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Has anyone cracked chipzel's code of making awesome instruments?]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>chipzel wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Hey!</p><p>The .sav was included in the digital copy of Spectra but I&#039;ve just discovered that the link is broken. Here it is:<br /><a href="https://www.dropbox.com/s/b8bpnyaoa6ql1vb/Tokyo%20Skies.lsdsng" target="_blank">https://www.dropbox.com/s/b8bpnyaoa6ql1 &#133; ies.lsdsng</a></p></blockquote></div><p>It really bugs me you lost the Something Beautifull ones. I love how all the channels sounds so great together, and just want to look at that harmony. HHHHHNNNNNNNGGGGG</p><p>Thanks for delivering, I overlooked that download<br />EDIT: sounds great as well, holy balls.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Jotie]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/Jotie</uri>
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			<updated>2014-05-20T07:19:44Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Has anyone cracked chipzel's code of making awesome instruments?]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>Feryl wrote:</cite><blockquote><div class="quotebox"><cite>Kris k wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>That seems unlikely to me- Chibi uses the NES for her tracks, which doesn&#039;t have the same WAV channel capabilities that LSDJ gives you. If I understand correctly, her songs use some special custom code and make use of some expansion channels on the NES to get those insane wobble sounds.</p></blockquote></div><p>I&#039;m pretty sure she uses FamiTracker, which doesn&#039;t require any programming know-how to make use of those extra VRC channels. Also: DPCM for them drums.</p></blockquote></div><p>Right. I&#039;m just saying most of the wav tricks that Zef applies in his songs don&#039;t apply on the NES.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Kris k]]></name>
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			<updated>2014-05-19T17:38:59Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Has anyone cracked chipzel's code of making awesome instruments?]]></title>
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				<name><![CDATA[Feryl]]></name>
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			<updated>2014-05-19T14:22:21Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Has anyone cracked chipzel's code of making awesome instruments?]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>metatronaut wrote:</cite><blockquote><div class="quotebox"><cite>Monotron wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Forget that, I want to know what&#039;s in Chibi-tech&#039;s bag of secrets</p></blockquote></div><p>It sounds a bit like she&#039;s using a lot of Zef&#039;s techniques. You can get his sav files when you download Parallel Processing.</p></blockquote></div><p>That seems unlikely to me- Chibi uses the NES for her tracks, which doesn&#039;t have the same WAV channel capabilities that LSDJ gives you. If I understand correctly, her songs use some special custom code and make use of some expansion channels on the NES to get those insane wobble sounds.</p><br /><p>That being said, Zef/Danimal&#039;s sav files are a goldmine for LSDJ sound design and people should absolutely check them out. I&#039;ve dug into them a little bit myself tbh.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Kris k]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/Kris+k</uri>
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			<updated>2014-05-19T13:27:00Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Has anyone cracked chipzel's code of making awesome instruments?]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>L-tron wrote:</cite><blockquote><div class="quotebox"><cite>Monotron wrote:</cite><blockquote><p><a href="http://youtu.be/Mog1v9a70V4" target="_blank">http://youtu.be/Mog1v9a70V4</a> Also how does Trey Frey make those sweet phasey sounding chords like at 0:20 seconds in to this beast</p></blockquote></div><p>Sounds like vibrato. Probably with a different vibrato type than the standard. Could be a table with some p commands. This thread is kinda fun now. haha.</p></blockquote></div><p><a href="https://soundcloud.com/treyfrey/phantasmagoria-off-of-refresh" target="_blank">https://soundcloud.com/treyfrey/phantas &#133; of-refresh</a> This is a better example, that super phasey synth right after the intro about 30 seconds in. It&#039;s so beautiful and I&#039;ve only heard treyfrey really nail this sound. also dem kicks</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Monotron]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/Monotron</uri>
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			<updated>2014-05-19T06:54:42Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Has anyone cracked chipzel's code of making awesome instruments?]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>Monotron wrote:</cite><blockquote><p><a href="http://youtu.be/Mog1v9a70V4" target="_blank">http://youtu.be/Mog1v9a70V4</a> Also how does Trey Frey make those sweet phasey sounding chords like at 0:20 seconds in to this beast</p></blockquote></div><p>Sounds like vibrato. Probably with a different vibrato type than the standard. Could be a table with some p commands. This thread is kinda fun now. haha.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[L-tron]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/L-tron</uri>
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			<updated>2014-05-17T14:25:49Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Has anyone cracked chipzel's code of making awesome instruments?]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>Monotron wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Forget that, I want to know what&#039;s in Chibi-tech&#039;s bag of secrets</p></blockquote></div><p>It sounds a bit like she&#039;s using a lot of Zef&#039;s techniques. You can get his sav files when you download Parallel Processing.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[metatronaut]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/metatronaut</uri>
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			<updated>2014-05-17T10:41:01Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Has anyone cracked chipzel's code of making awesome instruments?]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>Monotron wrote:</cite><blockquote><p><a href="http://youtu.be/Mog1v9a70V4" target="_blank">http://youtu.be/Mog1v9a70V4</a> Also how does Trey Frey make those sweet phasey sounding chords like at 0:20 seconds in to this beast</p></blockquote></div><p>Most likely dual LSDJ.</p><p>If not then he&#039;s using a ghost channel:<br /><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=73VLMNMaRAQ" target="_blank">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=73VLMNMaRAQ</a></p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[metatronaut]]></name>
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			<updated>2014-05-17T10:36:30Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Has anyone cracked chipzel's code of making awesome instruments?]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>Monotron wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Forget that, I want to know what&#039;s in Chibi-tech&#039;s bag of secrets</p></blockquote></div><p>You don&#039;t even know how much I can agree with this statement.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[metatronaut]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/metatronaut</uri>
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			<updated>2014-05-17T10:34:42Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://youtu.be/Mog1v9a70V4" target="_blank">http://youtu.be/Mog1v9a70V4</a> Also how does Trey Frey make those sweet phasey sounding chords like at 0:20 seconds in to this beast</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Monotron]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/Monotron</uri>
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			<updated>2014-05-17T08:06:44Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Forget that, I want to know what&#039;s in Chibi-tech&#039;s bag of secrets</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Monotron]]></name>
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			<updated>2014-05-17T08:04:10Z</updated>
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