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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Upcoming Hardware - Square]]></title>
			<link rel="alternate" href="https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/211755/#p211755"/>
			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Thumbs up for slide ribbon!</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[KeFF]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/KeFF</uri>
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			<updated>2014-06-25T07:04:38Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Upcoming Hardware - Square]]></title>
			<link rel="alternate" href="https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/211726/#p211726"/>
			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Hey Guys,</p><p>Been working on getting some 3D renders up because my sketching skills may not be up to par. Also, I just confirmed some features.</p><p>-- Monophonic/Polyphonic keyboard<br />-- Choose from pulse, triangle, and sawtooth oscillators<br />-- LP/HP filter<br />-- 3.5mm and 1/4&#039;&#039; audio out jacks</p><p>In consideration we have:<br />-- Slide ribbon for portmanteau<br />-- Custom waveforms (like LSDJ)<br />-- Band pass and band rejection filters</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[BitCruncher]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/BitCruncher</uri>
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			<updated>2014-06-24T22:39:28Z</updated>
			<id>https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/211726/#p211726</id>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Upcoming Hardware - Square]]></title>
			<link rel="alternate" href="https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/211003/#p211003"/>
			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Hey Guys,</p><p>Sorry I haven&#039;t been updating survey questions lately. I got really caught up in a concept idea. Goes something like this.</p><p>The main problem or lack with software like LSDJ and LGPT is the inability of improvisation. The Square will have the portability and power of the Game Boy with the freedom of the Korg Monotron.</p><p>Maybe you get &quot;bursts&quot; of inspiration and you want to quickly lay down some notes on the go. Maybe you just want to show off to people that you can make &quot;video game sounding&quot; music. Or maybe during an event, you&#039;re feeling the beat and you want to step away from your gig setup and just start senselessly headbanging / jamming it out.</p><p>The Square will let you do all of this and more.</p><p>This is just part of the idea. I&#039;ll put up the rest later...maybe along with some concept drawings.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[BitCruncher]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/BitCruncher</uri>
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			<updated>2014-06-14T20:38:05Z</updated>
			<id>https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/211003/#p211003</id>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Upcoming Hardware - Square]]></title>
			<link rel="alternate" href="https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/210246/#p210246"/>
			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>MaxDolensky wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>By trying to cater to so many things you will drown this project and overwhelm yourself. I am not saying you should make it open source, but it may be a good idea to make this thing expandable so that people can develop their own solutions to their own problems in their workflows.</p></blockquote></div><p>You are exactly right; I should keep that in mind as I gather general ideas. Expandability goes with modularity, which I am getting peoples&#039; opinion on here.<br /></p><div class="quotebox"><cite>godinpants wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>It should have an airhorn button and a lowpass filter.</p></blockquote></div><p>I can, with about 90% certainty, say that the Square will have an onboard LPF. Not too sure about the airhorn button though...<br /></p><div class="quotebox"><cite>herr_prof wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Or make it expandable, but only focus on your own aspect, and leave it as a platform to explore for others.</p></blockquote></div><p>This is what I am going for and it has always been my philsophy.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[BitCruncher]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/BitCruncher</uri>
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			<updated>2014-06-05T21:21:23Z</updated>
			<id>https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/210246/#p210246</id>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Upcoming Hardware - Square]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>deleted</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[godinpants]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/godinpants</uri>
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			<updated>2014-06-04T10:14:35Z</updated>
			<id>https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/210160/#p210160</id>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Upcoming Hardware - Square]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Or make it expandable, but only focus on your own aspect, and leave it as a platform to explore for others.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[herr_prof]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/herr_prof</uri>
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			<updated>2014-06-03T22:10:39Z</updated>
			<id>https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/210137/#p210137</id>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Upcoming Hardware - Square]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>By trying to cater to so many things you will drown this project and overwhelm yourself. I am not saying you should make it open source, but it may be a good idea to make this thing expandable so that people can develop their own solutions to their own problems in their workflows.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[MaxDolensky]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/MaxDolensky</uri>
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			<updated>2014-06-03T22:01:10Z</updated>
			<id>https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/210136/#p210136</id>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Upcoming Hardware - Square]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>BitCruncher wrote:</cite><blockquote><p><strong>2.</strong><br />Do you prefer the modular or integrated approach to music production? How well could you adapt if you had to switch?</p></blockquote></div><p>My opinion on this is that the answer should be &quot;both.&quot;</p><p>I didn&#039;t answer the first part because I didn&#039;t want to seem to sour the results; I have a Nintendo DS and some mp3 players I purposed for live playing, but I found that since my lifestyle doesn&#039;t really allow me to play out, it is much faster to make songs on the netbook.</p><p>I think something that can reach LSDJ playability whether you have something else along with it or not is important, but something you can easily plug something else into or can rearrange operations on is important as well. If I&#039;m not being clear enough, consider the filter input and documented solder points on Korg Monotron, the patchcord section of Arturia Microbrute, or at the most extreme, the jacks on Korg MS-10/20. You could send and receive clock syncs and note inputs/outputs, and maybe some other things that won&#039;t be obvious until you&#039;ve started building. Good luck.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[chunter]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/chunter</uri>
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			<updated>2014-06-03T17:03:52Z</updated>
			<id>https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/210116/#p210116</id>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Upcoming Hardware - Square]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>99% of chiptune creation is a fixed architecture, but depending on what you may have in mind it could be desirable. Its probably better to be a master of one trade than try to be a jack of all of them.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[herr_prof]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/herr_prof</uri>
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			<updated>2014-06-03T16:39:05Z</updated>
			<id>https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/210114/#p210114</id>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Upcoming Hardware - Square]]></title>
			<link rel="alternate" href="https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/210113/#p210113"/>
			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Good replies so far. Really appreciate this.</p><p>I definitely aim to make this oriented around live performances. We love to jam with others who share our musical interests and the audience loves to watch us. Chiptune like any other genre can give rise to pieces that can be as simple or complex as you want them to be. Obviously there are going to be times when we can&#039;t play <strong>every</strong> note. This being said, I think a sequencer is definitely a goal for this.</p><p>This one I may have already beaten to death.</p><p><strong>2.</strong><br />Do you prefer the modular or integrated approach to music production? How well could you adapt if you had to switch?</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[BitCruncher]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/BitCruncher</uri>
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			<updated>2014-06-03T16:21:24Z</updated>
			<id>https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/210113/#p210113</id>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Upcoming Hardware - Square]]></title>
			<link rel="alternate" href="https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/209913/#p209913"/>
			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>The handful of times I&#039;ve been able to perform my chipstuff have been incredibly fun and exciting and have changed the way I go about writing music completely.</p><p>There&#039;s two kinds of playing chipmusic live:</p><p>1.&nbsp; The way you play traditional instruments like a piano or guitar.&nbsp; Examples would be keyboard overlays for the C64 or PixelH8&#039;s gameboy music carts.</p><p>2.&nbsp; Ableton/LSDJ live sequencing where you are triggering pre-written sections of music but not playing every note.</p><p>And obviously combinations of the two.</p><p>Number 1 I&#039;m not interested in at all.&nbsp; I spent a long time in marching/concert band and garage bands and I&#039;m done with it.&nbsp; Number 2 is what I&#039;m still learning (as opposed to press play and jump around like a dork) and is what would get my attention.&nbsp; You could always accomplish that with outboard midi sequencing but I get the impression that you&#039;re looking to produce a stand-alone instrument so onboard sequencing would be a must.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[egr]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/egr</uri>
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			<updated>2014-05-31T17:03:17Z</updated>
			<id>https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/209913/#p209913</id>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Upcoming Hardware - Square]]></title>
			<link rel="alternate" href="https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/209910/#p209910"/>
			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>herr_prof wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>I would suggest you first capture the sounds you want the synth to produce, and then do lots of interface investigations to determine how you want your instrument to be played.</p></blockquote></div><br /><p>^ this</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[kitsch]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/kitsch</uri>
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			<updated>2014-05-31T16:22:07Z</updated>
			<id>https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/209910/#p209910</id>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Upcoming Hardware - Square]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>There are two basic aspects to a live performance<br />1) Amazing songs that feel powerful and present through a sound system.<br />2) An engaging energetic performer with loads of charisma or obvious talent that shines through their work.</p><p>You can skimp on one or overcompensate over the other but the whole of these two usually make or break any live performance. I think any successful product has to:</p><p>1. Sound amazing, or capture what sounds amazing about chipsounds<br />2. Inspires great artists to make great music<br />3. Has some sort of performance aspect that lends itself for promoting an engaging performance.</p><p>Things that look cool when people perform on them:<br />-Bashing a drum type thing like an ape<br />-Shredding a stick dynamically like its a huge musical penis at the audience<br />-fingering a little bowed box with sad tear inducing music</p><p>I would suggest you first capture the sounds you want the synth to produce, and then do lots of interface investigations to determine how you want your instrument to be played.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[herr_prof]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/herr_prof</uri>
			</author>
			<updated>2014-05-31T14:03:03Z</updated>
			<id>https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/209909/#p209909</id>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Upcoming Hardware - Square]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>I enjoy live performances of other genres of music face to face, I enjoy live chiptune webstreams. I haven&#039;t been to a face to face chiptune gig yet, but I have no reason to see why I would dislike it.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Alpine]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/Alpine</uri>
			</author>
			<updated>2014-05-31T12:52:37Z</updated>
			<id>https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/209905/#p209905</id>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Upcoming Hardware - Square]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>I love live chip events!&nbsp; I have gone to an played a LOT of them as well.&nbsp; I usually run 2xlsdj, a bunch of synths, and vocals. </p><br /><p>Now the part where I get uppity</p><div class="quotebox"><cite>SurfaceDragon wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>And as a sidenote to sandneil and anyone else reading this. I don&#039;t want to send you off the deep end or anything but you might never want to tell anyone &quot;i have often felt urges to harm or kill myself&quot; if you ever want engage in a serious romantic relationship or own a firearm.</p></blockquote></div><p>You do realize this is incredibly condescending, right?&nbsp; &quot;Oh hey, you know that part of you that drives to the point that you feel you have no other choice but to end your own life?&nbsp; Ignore that or no one will love you&quot;</p><p>Everybody has dark feelings, to ignore them is denying yourself the ability to cope with them in productive ways, and if you are in a romantic relationship with someone who cannot handle the bad parts of you GET THE FUCK OUT.</p><p>That being said, no hard feelings to you in particular, SurfaceDragon, this is just a massive pet peeve of mine.</p><p>(Also, if any more discussion on this is to be had, let&#039;s do it in PM, cause this thread could be awesome and it would suck to have a mental wellness derail kill it)</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Mrwimmer]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/Mrwimmer</uri>
			</author>
			<updated>2014-05-31T10:19:33Z</updated>
			<id>https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/209902/#p209902</id>
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