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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: How to make really really noob track better?]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>my first song was cherry spys in 2010 haha i sucked soooo baddd i used to jam out to it too and now when i hear it i laugh so hard</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[nitro pulse]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/nitro+pulse</uri>
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			<updated>2014-06-07T23:43:18Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: How to make really really noob track better?]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>&quot;Poniosło mnie&quot; translates to &quot;I got carried away&quot;</p><p>I think he was trying to make a clumsy apology, and if so we should try not to let it derail the thread any further!</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Fudgers]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/Fudgers</uri>
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			<updated>2014-06-07T23:29:02Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: How to make really really noob track better?]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Read it again. With understanding <img src="https://chipmusic.org/forums/img/smilies/smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="smile" /></p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[danthalian]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/danthalian</uri>
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			<updated>2014-06-07T23:17:54Z</updated>
			<id>https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/210423/#p210423</id>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: How to make really really noob track better?]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>danthalian wrote:</cite><blockquote><div class="quotebox"><cite>Dire Hit wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>If I had heard something like that when I was first starting out I probably would have given up on chiptune.</p></blockquote></div><p>Really? Only poor man reacts like that. <br />Oh yes, my apologies to the author. <br />Apologies for all of you. <br />Poniosło mnie (don&#039;t know how to describe it in english)...</p></blockquote></div><p>I&#039;ve read your posts and the one i have to say-stop making &quot;forum posts&quot;...</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[e.s.c.]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/e.s.c.</uri>
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			<updated>2014-06-07T23:13:37Z</updated>
			<id>https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/210422/#p210422</id>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: How to make really really noob track better?]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>Dire Hit wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>If I had heard something like that when I was first starting out I probably would have given up on chiptune.</p></blockquote></div><p>Really? Only poor man reacts like that. <br />Oh yes, my apologies to the author. <br />Apologies for all of you. <br />Poniosło mnie (don&#039;t know how to describe it in english)...</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[danthalian]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/danthalian</uri>
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			<updated>2014-06-07T22:44:33Z</updated>
			<id>https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/210419/#p210419</id>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: How to make really really noob track better?]]></title>
			<link rel="alternate" href="https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/210408/#p210408"/>
			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>danthalian wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>My little provocation has carried result&nbsp; <img src="https://chipmusic.org/forums/img/smilies/smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="smile" /> Discussion is going on at last <img src="https://chipmusic.org/forums/img/smilies/smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="smile" /> The song is very simple, indeed, if i can remember my first tunes was a crappy shit, so keep going on, make more, more, more <img src="https://chipmusic.org/forums/img/smilies/smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="smile" /></p></blockquote></div><p>Backpedal harder, brah.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Invisible Robot Hands]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/Invisible+Robot+Hands</uri>
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			<updated>2014-06-07T21:09:41Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: How to make really really noob track better?]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>MaxDolensky wrote:</cite><blockquote><div class="quotebox"><cite>danthalian wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>My little provocation has carried result&nbsp; <img src="https://chipmusic.org/forums/img/smilies/smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="smile" /> Discussion is going on at last <img src="https://chipmusic.org/forums/img/smilies/smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="smile" /> The song is very simple, indeed, if i can remember my first tunes was a crappy shit, so keep going on, make more, more, more <img src="https://chipmusic.org/forums/img/smilies/smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="smile" /></p></blockquote></div><p>How about instead of taking credit for everyone else&#039;s discussion, you apologize or fuck off?</p></blockquote></div><p>Preferably fuck off. If I had heard something like that when I was first starting out I probably would have given up on chiptune.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Dire Hit]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/Dire+Hit</uri>
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			<updated>2014-06-07T20:41:21Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: How to make really really noob track better?]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>danthalian wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>My little provocation has carried result&nbsp; <img src="https://chipmusic.org/forums/img/smilies/smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="smile" /> Discussion is going on at last <img src="https://chipmusic.org/forums/img/smilies/smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="smile" /> The song is very simple, indeed, if i can remember my first tunes was a crappy shit, so keep going on, make more, more, more <img src="https://chipmusic.org/forums/img/smilies/smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="smile" /></p></blockquote></div><p>How about instead of taking credit for everyone else&#039;s discussion, you apologize or fuck off?</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[MaxDolensky]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/MaxDolensky</uri>
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			<updated>2014-06-07T20:37:42Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: How to make really really noob track better?]]></title>
			<link rel="alternate" href="https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/210400/#p210400"/>
			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>My little provocation has carried result&nbsp; <img src="https://chipmusic.org/forums/img/smilies/smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="smile" /> Discussion is going on at last <img src="https://chipmusic.org/forums/img/smilies/smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="smile" /> The song is very simple, indeed, if i can remember my first tunes was a crappy shit, so keep going on, make more, more, more <img src="https://chipmusic.org/forums/img/smilies/smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="smile" /></p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[danthalian]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/danthalian</uri>
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			<updated>2014-06-07T19:45:59Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: How to make really really noob track better?]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>It&#039;s overlong for the material it has. A lot of artists play with repetition, but they key is to introduce variation in other, sometimes more subtle ways than just melodic progression. </p><p>Examine each measure, and try to figure out why it&#039;s in there and what purpose it serves for the song. Sometimes repeating sections is useful for establishing a melody; sometimes they can act as a refrain.</p><p>In your case, I think you have a lot of looping material that doesn&#039;t contribute to the song, but rather fatigues it. Taking the material in that four minute track and making it a minute and a half long could be a really nice little ditty.</p><p>Also don&#039;t get hung up on perfecting something you aren&#039;t totally happy with. The more music you make, the more music you&#039;ll be able to make! Any individual idea is just as valuable as you want it to be.</p><p>Good luck!</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Fudgers]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/Fudgers</uri>
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			<updated>2014-06-07T18:21:14Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: How to make really really noob track better?]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>the track lacks any sort of bass instrument. try some long low notes in the same progression as the melody in the triangle channel. try some more commands. &quot;0&quot; &quot;3&quot; and &quot;4&quot; are some cool ones. </p><p>i also think writing new songs is pretty important. don&#039;t get stuck trying to perfect one song when you have lots yet to learn</p><p>goodluck</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[token]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/token</uri>
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			<updated>2014-06-07T16:26:45Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, I have the same response as has been covered: Keep at it, man. Try switching it up and vary the melodies, experiment with it. Just do what you like, have fun with it. <img src="https://chipmusic.org/forums/img/smilies/smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="smile" /> And if you don&#039;t know what to do at some point, try *something*, anything. <img src="https://chipmusic.org/forums/img/smilies/big_smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="big_smile" /></p><br /><p>( I dig your avatar and username, bro <img src="https://chipmusic.org/forums/img/smilies/wink.png" width="15" height="15" alt="wink" /> )</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[my.Explosion]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/my.Explosion</uri>
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			<updated>2014-06-07T13:42:13Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: How to make really really noob track better?]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>I&#039;d say one thing that could improve this track is variation and fills. The easiest way to force this is to change something at the end of every phrase(? I&#039;ve been using lsdj for so long I don&#039;t remember the real term.) Do the same thing every 2, every 4, 8, etc. Makes the same things interesting for longer.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Dire Hit]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/Dire+Hit</uri>
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			<updated>2014-06-07T05:05:13Z</updated>
			<id>https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/210355/#p210355</id>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: How to make really really noob track better?]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>e.s.c. wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>i&#039;d just go with trial and error.. can help you develop your own personal style</p></blockquote></div><p>Yeah, trial and error is often a great way to go with trackers. Don&#039;t be afraid of trying crazy things and messing up instrument patches. Just start changing parameters till you hit on a sound you like. Eventually, you will develop and understanding of the parameters and gradually start making adjustments with more precision and confidence.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[roboctopus]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/roboctopus</uri>
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			<updated>2014-06-07T04:02:27Z</updated>
			<id>https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/210353/#p210353</id>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: How to make really really noob track better?]]></title>
			<link rel="alternate" href="https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/210348/#p210348"/>
			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>e.s.c. wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>i&#039;d just go with trial and error.. can help you develop your own personal style</p></blockquote></div><p> You&#039;re right about it giving you a unique style because the commands you use aren&#039;t just copied from a tutorial.That&#039;s what I did with LSDJ, and it takes me so long to write song sometimes, but it really helps me learn the software. My first lsdj song was awful, and my newest one is pretty dope.</p><p>Just keep at it, man. You&#039;ll find the sweet spot if you persist.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[lucasnoah]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/lucasnoah</uri>
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			<updated>2014-06-07T02:12:16Z</updated>
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