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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Does a sav file for the this cart exist somewhere?]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>Nullsleep wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>If anyone shares this .sav I will kill you and put your corpse up on the pirate bay.</p></blockquote></div><br /><p>Pirate Search: __________</p><p>_ Audio&nbsp; &nbsp; _ Video&nbsp; &nbsp;_ Porn&nbsp; &nbsp;_ Applications&nbsp; &nbsp;<span class="bbu">X</span> Dead Bodies</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[an0va]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/an0va</uri>
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			<updated>2014-06-27T15:19:15Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Does a sav file for the this cart exist somewhere?]]></title>
			<link rel="alternate" href="https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/211935/#p211935"/>
			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>Domu wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>hey so if you ever have a scratched cd you bought, dont ever ask for it to be sent to you via a thread like this, else its immoral. </p><p>distributing it to those whove not paid is different but in the case of Fumu, with his horribly erase-battery-prone EMS cart, whats tha problem?</p></blockquote></div><p>Well I mean, IDC if the homie Fumu wants to back up a dying piece of history for himself. I&#039;m talking about if someone else who might have this cart, backs it up, and posts the link in public. I don&#039;t think there&#039;s any malicious intent, but it might not be a good idea before clarifying with people first since they still own it</p><br /><div class="quotebox"><cite>Domu wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>cant see any hate for the guy actually selling the cart on Ebay here, surely that&#039;s worse?!</p></blockquote></div><p>Hm, I don&#039;t think that&#039;s worse though. I mean they sold it for like $100 - IIRC you got the cart for a donation of like $150, so they didn&#039;t even make a profit on it here. They probably just wanted to sell it to someone else who&#039;d be genuinely interested in the data. Now if the .sav started floating around and got shared though, it now brings up concerns of property of each individual artist (like Bit Shifter said), the property of Blip Festival materials, and above all it now turns that special cart into a blank flash cartridge. I think that&#039;s kind of depressing IMO <img src="https://chipmusic.org/forums/img/smilies/sad.png" width="15" height="15" alt="sad" /></p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[an0va]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/an0va</uri>
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			<updated>2014-06-27T15:16:50Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Does a sav file for the this cart exist somewhere?]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>well three of them posted in this thread already.. the one person who said they wanted their song shared was little-scale.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[e.s.c.]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/e.s.c.</uri>
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			<updated>2014-06-27T12:55:37Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Does a sav file for the this cart exist somewhere?]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>katsumbhong wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Contact the artists?</p></blockquote></div><p>e.s.c. has. Perhaps we can get either<br />a) the original artists to release their own .sav or .lsdjsng<br />b) permission to extract individual .lsdjsng&#039;s from the .sav and release them seperately or one small collective save</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[MaxDolensky]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/MaxDolensky</uri>
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			<updated>2014-06-27T05:15:28Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Does a sav file for the this cart exist somewhere?]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Contact the artists?</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[katsumbhong]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/katsumbhong</uri>
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			<updated>2014-06-27T04:51:02Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Does a sav file for the this cart exist somewhere?]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>Esopus-dragon wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>I&#039;d only go so far to learn from the backup</p></blockquote></div><p>Basically this. I&#039;ve learned a lot through other peoples .sav&#039;s in the past, so naturally I wanted to check these out. If the artists are against it that&#039;s completely fine and understandable. It is their artistic property after all.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Boy Without Batteries]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/Boy+Without+Batteries</uri>
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			<updated>2014-06-27T01:54:23Z</updated>
			<id>https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/211919/#p211919</id>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Does a sav file for the this cart exist somewhere?]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>e.s.c. wrote:</cite><blockquote><div class="quotebox"><cite>herr_prof wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>My opinion is that sharing it would ruin the value for the people who managed to kickstart Blip. Why devalue their support?</p></blockquote></div><p>my support was valuable? <img src="https://chipmusic.org/forums/img/smilies/heart.gif" width="15" height="15" alt="heart" /> <img src="https://chipmusic.org/forums/img/smilies/yikes.png" width="15" height="15" alt="yikes" /></p></blockquote></div><p>For a small period of time in the past, YES!</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[herr_prof]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/herr_prof</uri>
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			<updated>2014-06-27T01:12:45Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Does a sav file for the this cart exist somewhere?]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Hi. I expressed an interest in backing up the EMS cart to Max Dolensky, and at some times I don&#039;t really think very much about how someone might feel about a thing like one backup to my own computer. On the other hand, I&#039;d only go so far to learn from the backup and semi-publically discuss what I learned, and retain the valuability by restricting it to only every owner of the EMS cart in its life. Which is doing fine right now. I didn&#039;t want to seem like I was a potential seeder of this .sav if that was implied, inferred, or mislabelled.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Esopus-dragon]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/Esopus-dragon</uri>
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			<updated>2014-06-27T00:27:03Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Does a sav file for the this cart exist somewhere?]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>herr_prof wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>My opinion is that sharing it would ruin the value for the people who managed to kickstart Blip. Why devalue their support?</p></blockquote></div><p>my support was valuable? <img src="https://chipmusic.org/forums/img/smilies/heart.gif" width="15" height="15" alt="heart" /> <img src="https://chipmusic.org/forums/img/smilies/yikes.png" width="15" height="15" alt="yikes" /></p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[e.s.c.]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/e.s.c.</uri>
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			<updated>2014-06-26T22:12:22Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Does a sav file for the this cart exist somewhere?]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>If anyone shares this .sav I will kill you and put your corpse up on the pirate bay.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Nullsleep]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/Nullsleep</uri>
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			<updated>2014-06-26T22:11:44Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Does a sav file for the this cart exist somewhere?]]></title>
			<link rel="alternate" href="https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/211893/#p211893"/>
			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>My opinion is that sharing it would ruin the value for the people who managed to kickstart Blip. Why devalue their support?</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[herr_prof]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/herr_prof</uri>
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			<updated>2014-06-26T22:02:50Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Does a sav file for the this cart exist somewhere?]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Some of the artists who contributed to that cartridge may not mind if their .sav data is circulated publicly / openly, but some might.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Bit Shifter]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/Bit+Shifter</uri>
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			<updated>2014-06-26T21:57:40Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Does a sav file for the this cart exist somewhere?]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>so far, responses are anti-sharing it.. hopefully they post in here too, but 3 of 7 werent into it being public (and no response from other 4 yet)</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[e.s.c.]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/e.s.c.</uri>
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			<updated>2014-06-26T21:52:19Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Does a sav file for the this cart exist somewhere?]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>nitro2k01 wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Since this was given away as a perk for a Kickstarter campaign, I think the expectation is that the save is at least semi-public. I would think of it more as a piece of history than as someone&#039;s private files. Though considering the small number of artists featured on the cartridge, you could also just ask them. Of course, since we don&#039;t know who won the auction (right?) it&#039;s that person&#039;s decision too, in the end and this discussion is hypothetical. They may not want to risk devaluing their cartridge. Then again, won&#039;t be long until the battery dies.</p></blockquote></div><p>agreed, i think now, 5 years out, its hit a point where most if not all orig carts are about to have battery death, and those artists knew it was to be redistributed a bit already.. ill try and direct some of them to this topic to get thei opinions as to how many fucks (if any) they give about the sav being shared.. im sure some of the tracks are already available as sav file somewhere</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[e.s.c.]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/e.s.c.</uri>
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			<updated>2014-06-26T21:39:37Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Does a sav file for the this cart exist somewhere?]]></title>
			<link rel="alternate" href="https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/211883/#p211883"/>
			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Since this was given away as a perk for a Kickstarter campaign, I think the expectation is that the save is at least semi-public. I would think of it more as a piece of history than as someone&#039;s private files. Though considering the small number of artists featured on the cartridge, you could also just ask them. Of course, since we don&#039;t know who won the auction (right?) it&#039;s that person&#039;s decision too, in the end and this discussion is hypothetical. They may not want to risk devaluing their cartridge. Then again, won&#039;t be long until the battery dies.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[nitro2k01]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/nitro2k01</uri>
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			<updated>2014-06-26T21:32:16Z</updated>
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