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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: does this suck?]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>Dire Hit wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>I&#039;m trying to say that asking specific and thoughtful questions about your work gets you specific and thoughtful feedback. The best way to learn to improve is to ask what specifically is good or bad about your work.</p><p>I think the snares in the intro could use some envelope changes, think like marching snare rolls or the intro to &#039;Infinite Daps&#039; by RL Grime and Baauer. Melodically this seems to work pretty well although I find myself wanting a bit more of a clear structure. I&#039;m not saying you should make jarring changes every 4 phrases or something but I think an indicator that says &quot;this section is different from this section&quot; like drum fills or surprising pauses makes a song more enjoyable than slowly adding layers. Also, experiment a little more with commands on pulse instruments, I feel your melodies could be seriously improved by the introduction of L commands in some areas.</p><p>Other than that, just work on volume control (which every lsdj user needs to do, nobody ever really has it perfect) and practice practice practice. Keep doing what you&#039;re doing.</p></blockquote></div><p>Alright! I&#039;ll try and be more precise with my questions in the future. Thanks for the suggestions.</p><div class="quotebox"><cite>Mrwimmer wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Roboctopus.</p></blockquote></div><p>Definitely, that guy&#039;s lsdj work is solid.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[OmO]]></name>
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			<updated>2014-08-17T08:51:24Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: does this suck?]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>+1</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[defPREMIUM]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/defPREMIUM</uri>
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			<updated>2014-08-17T08:35:35Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: does this suck?]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>Dire Hit wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Other than that, just work on volume control (which every lsdj user needs to do, nobody ever really has it perfect) and practice practice practice. Keep doing what you&#039;re doing.</p></blockquote></div><br /><p>Roboctopus.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Mrwimmer]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/Mrwimmer</uri>
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			<updated>2014-08-17T08:05:51Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: does this suck?]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>OmO wrote:</cite><blockquote><div class="quotebox"><cite>Dire Hit wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>It&#039;ll suck if you keep asking the wrong questions.</p></blockquote></div><p>I can tell that&#039;s really deep, but I don&#039;t understand what it means.</p></blockquote></div><p>I&#039;m trying to say that asking specific and thoughtful questions about your work gets you specific and thoughtful feedback. The best way to learn to improve is to ask what specifically is good or bad about your work.</p><p>I think the snares in the intro could use some envelope changes, think like marching snare rolls or the intro to &#039;Infinite Daps&#039; by RL Grime and Baauer. Melodically this seems to work pretty well although I find myself wanting a bit more of a clear structure. I&#039;m not saying you should make jarring changes every 4 phrases or something but I think an indicator that says &quot;this section is different from this section&quot; like drum fills or surprising pauses makes a song more enjoyable than slowly adding layers. Also, experiment a little more with commands on pulse instruments, I feel your melodies could be seriously improved by the introduction of L commands in some areas.</p><p>Other than that, just work on volume control (which every lsdj user needs to do, nobody ever really has it perfect) and practice practice practice. Keep doing what you&#039;re doing.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Dire Hit]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/Dire+Hit</uri>
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			<updated>2014-08-17T01:32:05Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: does this suck?]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>I like your song! I think the progression is really interesting. arpeggiated really differently than most. I dig it!</p><div class="quotebox"><cite>OmO wrote:</cite><blockquote><div class="quotebox"><cite>Dire Hit wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>It&#039;ll suck if you keep asking the wrong questions.</p></blockquote></div><p>I can tell that&#039;s really deep, but I don&#039;t understand what it means.</p></blockquote></div><br /><p>the concept of &#039;suck&#039; is relative to an opinion.<br />Your song is what it is. I like it. It could be different, who knows? That&#039;s up to you really.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[iamowlsense]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/iamowlsense</uri>
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			<updated>2014-08-16T23:56:51Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: does this suck?]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>Mrwimmer wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>You&#039;ve got some interesting things going on here, as far as composition goes.&nbsp; And your sound design is quite enjoyable.&nbsp; I think you maybe need to work more on bringing the two styles you have going here (the more poppy parts and the more abstract parts)&nbsp; Also you need to mix more carefully inside of LSDJ.&nbsp; Your samples sound INCREDIBLY quiet, and that&#039;s probably because your pulse and noise channels are too loud (or maybe your custom samples are a little wonky and my ears are off) and I feel like your wav channel could pop a little more.&nbsp; All around though, interesting programming, just a few little tweaks and I think you&#039;ll be making pretty cool stuff <img src="https://chipmusic.org/forums/img/smilies/smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="smile" /></p></blockquote></div><p>Yeah my wav channel may be a little quiet in this song...I just wasn&#039;t getting what I wanted from the other channels at lower volumes. I&#039;ll work on it more now thank you for your input. <img src="https://chipmusic.org/forums/img/smilies/smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="smile" /></p><div class="quotebox"><cite>Dire Hit wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>It&#039;ll suck if you keep asking the wrong questions.</p></blockquote></div><p>I can tell that&#039;s really deep, but I don&#039;t understand what it means.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[OmO]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/OmO</uri>
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			<updated>2014-08-16T23:37:47Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: does this suck?]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>You&#039;ve got some interesting things going on here, as far as composition goes.&nbsp; And your sound design is quite enjoyable.&nbsp; I think you maybe need to work more on bringing the two styles you have going here (the more poppy parts and the more abstract parts)&nbsp; Also you need to mix more carefully inside of LSDJ.&nbsp; Your samples sound INCREDIBLY quiet, and that&#039;s probably because your pulse and noise channels are too loud (or maybe your custom samples are a little wonky and my ears are off) and I feel like your wav channel could pop a little more.&nbsp; All around though, interesting programming, just a few little tweaks and I think you&#039;ll be making pretty cool stuff <img src="https://chipmusic.org/forums/img/smilies/smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="smile" /></p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Mrwimmer]]></name>
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			<updated>2014-08-16T10:14:15Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: does this suck?]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>Dire Hit wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>It&#039;ll suck if you keep asking the wrong questions.</p></blockquote></div><p>damn</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[defPREMIUM]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/defPREMIUM</uri>
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			<updated>2014-08-16T08:27:29Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>It does not suck.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Knife Crimes]]></name>
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			<updated>2014-08-16T08:23:50Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>It&#039;ll suck if you keep asking the wrong questions.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Dire Hit]]></name>
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			<updated>2014-08-16T08:14:05Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>DeerPresident wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Sorry, I don&#039;t always express myself very clearly, what I meant was that for many transitions the one part seems to end abruptly and then the next part just starts, sometimes with completely different sounds. Normally there would be some element, be it the melody, the drum pattern or the harmonic elements of the instruments that stays consistant through the transition and then change a bit later in the piece. I don&#039;t know if that makes more sense or if I am just talking out of my ass.</p><p>Love the song, can&#039;t wait to hear more tunes from you.</p></blockquote></div><p>Ok, I understand what you mean. Thanks for all your help! I&#039;ll be making more tunes no doubt! <img src="https://chipmusic.org/forums/img/smilies/wink.png" width="15" height="15" alt="wink" /></p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[OmO]]></name>
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			<updated>2014-08-16T07:49:35Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: does this suck?]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Sorry, I don&#039;t always express myself very clearly, what I meant was that for many transitions the one part seems to end abruptly and then the next part just starts, sometimes with completely different sounds. Normally there would be some element, be it the melody, the drum pattern or the harmonic elements of the instruments that stays consistant through the transition and then change a bit later in the piece. I don&#039;t know if that makes more sense or if I am just talking out of my ass.</p><p>Love the song, can&#039;t wait to hear more tunes from you.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[DeerPresident]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/DeerPresident</uri>
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			<updated>2014-08-16T07:45:38Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>defPREMIUM wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>feelin it</p></blockquote></div><p>sweeeet. <img src="https://chipmusic.org/forums/img/smilies/heart.gif" width="15" height="15" alt="heart" /></p>]]></content>
			<author>
				<name><![CDATA[OmO]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/OmO</uri>
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			<updated>2014-08-16T07:40:24Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>feelin it</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[defPREMIUM]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/defPREMIUM</uri>
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			<updated>2014-08-16T07:36:07Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>DeerPresident wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>I don&#039;t know if my criticism/opinion matters, as I am not really any good at this shit, but here goes. Also, I only have really shitty headphones ATM so I can&#039;t say anything about the levels or particular instruments.<br />I gave your song a few listens, and here&#039;s what I think:<br />- First off, I REALLY enjoy this track, and the melodic elements reminded me a LOT of the games I played as a kid, which is VERY COOL! So THANK YOU for that.<br />- I LOVE the art, but I think I already said that in another thread <img src="https://chipmusic.org/forums/img/smilies/smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="smile" /><br />- Plan the structure of your song (write down what you want to happen in the track, and in what order), and come back to the parts that you like best, repetition makes a song more memorable.<br />- A longer intro that relies more on melody, or abstract sounds, as opposed to the percussive intro you have now might be nice?<br />- Work a bit more on transitions, in some parts of the song it sounded like the musical equivalent of a &quot;smash-cut&quot;, which kind of ruins the flow (for me, at least).<br />So, yeah, your song doesn&#039;t suck, but it can be AWESOME with a little more work.</p></blockquote></div><p>Thank you! Your opinion definitely does matter to me! </p><p>I was iffy about the intro myself. The percussion and glitchiness in the track probably come from my background in more &quot;thrashy&quot; chipmusic. It&#039;s definitely an issue I need to handle, but as for the &quot;smash-cut&quot; thing I&#039;m not sure what you mean. Could you maybe cite some times or something? Unless you&#039;re reffering to the prolonged loud glitchy part nearing the end then I understand. Overall your feedback was awesome and I thank you for it! <img src="https://chipmusic.org/forums/img/smilies/heart.gif" width="15" height="15" alt="heart" /></p><p>edit: I looked up the definition of smash-cut like a normal person would have. I think I understand, I just need to work on transitions.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[OmO]]></name>
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			<updated>2014-08-16T07:30:36Z</updated>
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