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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: dominant chords with C command ?]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><blockquote><p>Keeping the triad shape still sounds good in chip music for some reason</p></blockquote></div><p>cool, i&#039;ll stick with this then</p><div class="quotebox"><blockquote><p>just arpmaster it <a href="http://aanaaanaaanaaana.net/page.php?di" target="_blank">http://aanaaanaaanaaana.net/page.php?di</a> … =arpmaster</p></blockquote></div><p>THIS looks amazing!!</p><p>oO</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Sesska]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/Sesska</uri>
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			<updated>2014-09-04T07:39:08Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: dominant chords with C command ?]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>if you have a C in the bass<br />an Em triad would give you a CMaj7<br />a G triad would give you a CMaj9<br />a Bm triad would give you CMaj9(#11)<br />a D triad would give you a Cmaj13(#11)</p><p>if you have a C in the bass<br />an Edim triad would give you a C7<br />a Gm triad would give you a C9<br />a Bb triad would give you C9sus<br />a Dm triad would give you a C13sus</p><p>It&#039;s a way of thinking about chords from my jazz guitar bs training.&nbsp; When you can&#039;t play all the notes - you look for the upper extensions (which are triads anyway).&nbsp; The 5th definitely isn&#039;t important though.&nbsp; Keeping the triad shape still sounds good in chip music for some reason.&nbsp; If you go with weird voicings that voice lead badly (not smooth) ...that can make stuff sound kinda funny to the ear.</p><p>I did a lot of stuff like this on this Pulsewave ROM flier arrangement of &quot;It Might as Well Be Spring&quot;</p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VJTVsERb0Bo" target="_blank">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VJTVsERb0Bo</a></p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[animalstyle]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/animalstyle</uri>
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			<updated>2014-09-03T23:09:07Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: dominant chords with C command ?]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>Mrwimmer wrote:</cite><blockquote><div class="quotebox"><cite>Panda Chan wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Care to elaborate please...? I get what you mean, but I&#039;m not exactly sure how you implement this <img src="https://chipmusic.org/forums/img/smilies/tongue.png" width="15" height="15" alt="tongue" /></p></blockquote></div><br /><p>Uh sure.&nbsp; So basically, the second digit in the H command tells it which line to jump to, and the first digit tells it how many times to do that, with 0 being infinite.</p><p>So in something like this (ignore the q commands, they are for midi fuckery)</p><p><a class="postimg" href="http://i.imgur.com/4LyCfzi.png" title="http://i.imgur.com/4LyCfzi.png" id="forum_image_81908645"><img src="http://i.imgur.com/4LyCfzi.png" /></a></p><p>The arpeggiator goes from line 0 through 3, 3 times and then 6-A, one time, and then C-E, on to infinity.</p><p>Some things to remember with this is that the value in the TSP column doesn&#039;t play until it goes &quot;Through&quot; it.&nbsp; So only on the time that it goes on through the &quot;Gate&quot;</p><p>Also, nothing says you have to keep the two columns in the same &quot;Gate&quot; structure.&nbsp; You could have one for modulation, and one for the transpose.</p><p>(Also if you wanna try this table for yourself that first groove leads to a grove of 6/6)</p><br /><br /><br /><br /><p>But yeah, gated hops are ALSO a great way to add life to long notes, because you can bring in different types of modulation in through the sustain.</p></blockquote></div><p>Holy shit, I didn&#039;t realise that was what the first digit did... Mind=blown. Thanks! This will be very useful <img src="https://chipmusic.org/forums/img/smilies/wink.png" width="15" height="15" alt="wink" /></p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Panda Chan]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/Panda+Chan</uri>
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			<updated>2014-09-03T21:24:53Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: dominant chords with C command ?]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>just arpmaster it <a href="http://aanaaanaaanaaana.net/page.php?dir=things&amp;page=arpmaster" target="_blank">http://aanaaanaaanaaana.net/page.php?di &#133; =arpmaster</a></p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[sandneil]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/sandneil</uri>
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			<updated>2014-09-03T18:44:11Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: dominant chords with C command ?]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>C4A for dom 7ths in root position</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[an0va]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/an0va</uri>
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			<updated>2014-09-03T16:21:54Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: dominant chords with C command ?]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><blockquote><p>Uh sure.&nbsp; So basically, the second digit in the H command tells it which line to jump to, and the first digit tells it how many times to do that, with 0 being infinite.</p></blockquote></div><p>shit, just starting to realise how far you can actually go with this H command oO</p><p>ever used it as H00 so far, to be honest...</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Sesska]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/Sesska</uri>
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			<updated>2014-09-03T13:31:01Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: dominant chords with C command ?]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>Panda Chan wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Care to elaborate please...? I get what you mean, but I&#039;m not exactly sure how you implement this <img src="https://chipmusic.org/forums/img/smilies/tongue.png" width="15" height="15" alt="tongue" /></p></blockquote></div><br /><p>Uh sure.&nbsp; So basically, the second digit in the H command tells it which line to jump to, and the first digit tells it how many times to do that, with 0 being infinite.</p><p>So in something like this (ignore the q commands, they are for midi fuckery)</p><p><a class="postimg" href="http://i.imgur.com/4LyCfzi.png" title="http://i.imgur.com/4LyCfzi.png" id="forum_image_20475067"><img src="http://i.imgur.com/4LyCfzi.png" /></a></p><p>The arpeggiator goes from line 0 through 3, 3 times and then 6-A, one time, and then C-E, on to infinity.</p><p>Some things to remember with this is that the value in the TSP column doesn&#039;t play until it goes &quot;Through&quot; it.&nbsp; So only on the time that it goes on through the &quot;Gate&quot;</p><p>Also, nothing says you have to keep the two columns in the same &quot;Gate&quot; structure.&nbsp; You could have one for modulation, and one for the transpose.</p><p>(Also if you wanna try this table for yourself that first groove leads to a grove of 6/6)</p><br /><br /><br /><br /><p>But yeah, gated hops are ALSO a great way to add life to long notes, because you can bring in different types of modulation in through the sustain.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Mrwimmer]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/Mrwimmer</uri>
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			<updated>2014-09-03T13:14:56Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: dominant chords with C command ?]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>jeidson wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>The best way to do this is to omit the fifth of the chord. In the case of a dominant seventh, it&#039;s not necessary to have a complete chord to obtain the intended aural effect. Here&#039;s a dominant seventh using a single C command, and then the full chord in a table for reference:</p><p>C4A (major third + minor seventh)</p><p>Table<br />00 (root)<br />04 (M3)<br />07 (P5)<br />0A (m7)</p></blockquote></div><p>Great tip!</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Men of Mega]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/Men+of+Mega</uri>
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			<updated>2014-09-03T11:34:28Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: dominant chords with C command ?]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>yes, same than panda chan, can you develop what you mean, sounds really interresting ?</p><div class="quotebox"><blockquote><p>The best way to do this is to omit the fifth of the chord</p></blockquote></div><p>yep, the fifth can always be played by the bass...</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Sesska]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/Sesska</uri>
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			<updated>2014-09-03T11:20:32Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: dominant chords with C command ?]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>Mrwimmer wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Yeah.&nbsp; Just use the transpose.&nbsp; You can alter the speed of the arpegiation, and you can even set up hop gates so the chord &quot;evolves&quot; over the length of it.</p></blockquote></div><p>Care to elaborate please...? I get what you mean, but I&#039;m not exactly sure how you implement this <img src="https://chipmusic.org/forums/img/smilies/tongue.png" width="15" height="15" alt="tongue" /></p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Panda Chan]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/Panda+Chan</uri>
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			<updated>2014-09-03T11:11:30Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: dominant chords with C command ?]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Yeah.&nbsp; Just use the transpose.&nbsp; You can alter the speed of the arpegiation, and you can even set up hop gates so the chord &quot;evolves&quot; over the length of it.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Mrwimmer]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/Mrwimmer</uri>
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			<updated>2014-09-03T11:03:04Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: dominant chords with C command ?]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>The best way to do this is to omit the fifth of the chord. In the case of a dominant seventh, it&#039;s not necessary to have a complete chord to obtain the intended aural effect. Here&#039;s a dominant seventh using a single C command, and then the full chord in a table for reference:</p><p>C4A (major third + minor seventh)</p><p>Table<br />00 (root)<br />04 (M3)<br />07 (P5)<br />0A (m7)</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[jeidson]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/jeidson</uri>
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			<updated>2014-09-03T10:13:21Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[dominant chords with C command ?]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Hi,</p><p>in the manual they give example of C command for major/minor and power chords<br />can you actually use it for, let&#039;s say A7 ? (2 C commands in a table ?)</p><p>or transpose+H00 in table is my only friend ?</p><p>using a table on a note with A command does not shortcut all settings of an eventual table already linked to the instrument ?</p><p>sorry if it&#039;s a dumb question, you&#039;re getting used to now...</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Sesska]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/Sesska</uri>
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			<updated>2014-09-03T08:40:21Z</updated>
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