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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>Apeshit wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>We have a pretty efficient system with wholesalers for most of our products. When we&#039;re putting products into production, our wholesalers add their order on top of our existing order. Thus increasing our own quantity higher than it would&#039;ve been had they not ordered. So in reality, they reduce how often we go out of stock. This isn&#039;t the case for certain products, because we&#039;re deliberately selling out of some in anticipation for newer models.</p><p>Also bear in mind that these guys pay somewhere around 30% in duty fees, and the express shipping fee on top of that. Considering this, it&#039;s pretty difficult for us keep the MSRP universal.</p></blockquote></div><p>For this particular case, I completely retract my previous statement.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Afrowolf]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/Afrowolf</uri>
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			<updated>2014-09-12T00:13:21Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: UK chipmusic online shop - is there a demand for one?]]></title>
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				<name><![CDATA[Apeshit]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/Apeshit</uri>
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			<updated>2014-09-11T20:58:01Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: UK chipmusic online shop - is there a demand for one?]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>kitsch wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>who in the world did that?&nbsp; i think i missed that episode....</p></blockquote></div><p>Ah, saw the title, remembered some painful things and evolved into full blown blind nerd rage, evilscientist summed it up before me and I didn&#039;t even notice.&nbsp; Forgive me.<br /></p><div class="quotebox"><cite>Evil Scientist wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>And as far as parts go, I&#039;m happy enough ordering anything I need from Kitsch, I&#039;d never buy individual parts from someone that had just ordered a load from Kitsch, it annoys me when you see things out of stock on Kitsch-bent because someone&#039;s selling them for an inflated price on ebay UK.</p></blockquote></div><p>Same went for ASM cases.<br />It hurt to see the price of postage (within the UK no less) being more expensive than the cost of shipping directly from overseas AND the silicone buttons/cases themselves.</p><p>I&#039;ve said this time and time again I have no qualms against the original sellers themselves, they have a business to run, and if someone wants to wholesale, then I&#039;d be a dick to tell them not to, I just wish the UK resellers weren&#039;t so cheeky in the prices they set, and the sense of no choice for anyone. I wanna happy medium wherein everyone has a choice, and all establishments are sustained.</p><p>I can&#039;t imagine the frustration over stock for people living in the USA however, hot damn.</p><br /><p>Staying on topic, I think the warranties are a brilliant idea, especially for made to order type things. Before I decided to suck it up and start building my own systems, one of the things that stopped me often was the fear of &quot;what if, when this arrives, it falls completely to pieces and I have no idea how to fix it? It&#039;s modded so I can&#039;t go to the original manufacturer and/or the guy who made it sold it &#039;as is&#039;!&quot;</p><p>Even though I know quite a bit about gameboy stuff now, I couldn&#039;t imagine opening up one of my A500&#039;s and I wouldn&#039;t want to even look at my A1200 for fear of breaking it just by doing so. So for more of the rarer systems, I&#039;d recommend formulating some sort of service where you can send in units for work. I&#039;d recommend a solicitor or something to write up a waiver for you though, in case someone sends in a bunk machine and it dies on you.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Afrowolf]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/Afrowolf</uri>
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			<updated>2014-09-11T19:41:27Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>you seem to be more focused on selling pre-built things, rather than actual parts. I would be very unlikely to use something like this, I prefer to mod things myself, and I rarely do it anyway (and it&#039;s usually aesthetic rather than practical.) There&#039;s already that other dude over here who sells gameboy related stuff, so it would be nice in terms of diversity to have shops selling more than just gameboy stuff. Although, I&#039;d rather just have a UK reseller of Kitch/ASM stuff for similar prices, because I hate the waiting time it takes for stuff to get here from the US</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Alpine]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/Alpine</uri>
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			<updated>2014-09-11T16:00:29Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: UK chipmusic online shop - is there a demand for one?]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Hi Ape,</p><p>That&#039;s a good point, I hadn&#039;t considered it from that angle. I think my first gameboy back lights were through a guy in the UK (fretwanger if I&#039;m not mistaken) and they got to me nice and quickly and were top quality lights.</p><p>Anyway, this is drifting off topic as I do not intend to sell components, just the finished product and maybe take orders for custom builds.</p><p>Alex.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[ChipCzuk]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/ChipCzuk</uri>
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			<updated>2014-09-11T06:40:29Z</updated>
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				<name><![CDATA[Apeshit]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/Apeshit</uri>
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			<updated>2014-09-11T01:30:27Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: UK chipmusic online shop - is there a demand for one?]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>Afrowolf wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>So long as you don&#039;t do that <em>incredibly</em> shitty thing of <em>completely</em> buying out a overseas worldwide shipping competitors entire stock and selling it on to the UK chiptune community at an incredibly high markup...</p><p>*Loud cough*</p></blockquote></div><p>who in the world did that?&nbsp; i think i missed that episode....</p><p>(seriously.&nbsp; just for my curiosity.&nbsp; PM me if you&#039;d rather not blurt it out.&nbsp; this seems pertinent to my interests in that I don&#039;t want to contribute to such dickery)</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[kitsch]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/kitsch</uri>
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			<updated>2014-09-11T01:28:37Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: UK chipmusic online shop - is there a demand for one?]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>So long as you don&#039;t do that <em>incredibly</em> shitty thing of <em>completely</em> buying out a overseas worldwide shipping competitors entire stock and selling it on to the UK chiptune community at an incredibly high markup...</p><p>*Loud cough*</p><p>Then I&#039;m pretty certain I&#039;ll end up purchasing from you. <img src="https://chipmusic.org/forums/img/smilies/smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="smile" /></p><p>Seriously though, glad to see more UK distributors setting up shop and facilitating the passion.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Afrowolf]]></name>
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			<updated>2014-09-10T23:54:19Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Hi Evil Scientist,</p><p>Thanks for the input. I too love modding things myself, so much so that I have more modified stuff than I can use which is one reason I was thinking of setting up a shop to sell some of it on. I agree completely with you about not re-selling other peoples components. I was thinking more along the lines of complete chipmusic instruments with warranties and support for those folks that don&#039;t mod or are reluctant to try taking a soldering iron to their precious hardware. I know it&#039;s ambitious but I was thinking of making some instrument of the sort of quality lukhash used to put out, like c64&#039;s with a mix of keyboard key colours to represent the keys on a piano and maybe even built in SD drives etc.</p><p>Thanks again,</p><p>Alex.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[ChipCzuk]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/ChipCzuk</uri>
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			<updated>2014-09-10T21:36:09Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Personally I like modding things myself, I find it to be a really fun satisfying part of chipmusic. I used to mod Game Boys to sell on ebay but there doesn&#039;t seem to be so much of a demand for it nor does it seem to be that easy to get unmodded GBs on ebay at a decent price any more. </p><p>And as far as parts go, i&#039;m happy enough ordering anything I need from Kitsch, i&#039;d never buy individual parts from someone that had just ordered a load from Kitsch, it annoys me when you see things out of stock on Kitsch-bent because someone&#039;s selling them for an inflated price on ebay UK.</p><p>But if you find a way to offer something unique then i&#039;d say go for it.</p><p>Good luck anyways!</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Evil Scientist]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/Evil+Scientist</uri>
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			<updated>2014-09-10T21:23:54Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[UK chipmusic online shop - is there a demand for one?]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Hi to all you cm.o users,</p><p>I&#039;ve been hanging around this site for a while and have picked up many useful tips from a number of users with regards to customising and modifying old hardware to be used in the production of music. I have built up quite a collection of modified gameboys and commodore computers including, mostly, commodore 64&#039;s, vic-20&#039;s and commodore 16&#039;s. I have been adding second SID chips, audio out ports, reset switches and pots to the commodore 64&#039;s,<br />reset switches and audio outs to the vic-20&#039;s and audio out&#039;s to the 16&#039;s and also various back-lights, audio outs and other mods like keyboard ports and slowdowns to the gameboys. I have so far been selling some of these on eBay and sometimes I get a little pocket money from them but sometimes I barely, or just don&#039;t, get what the components are worth. I noticed that akira&#039;s modded c64c sold for just 70 quid on ebay ( <a href="http://chipmusic.org/forums/topic/14967/fscommodore-64c-full-system-for-music-use-av-ports-pots-software/" target="_blank">http://chipmusic.org/forums/topic/14967 &#133; -software/</a> ), which I think was way under-valued, and I was thinking about starting a web shop based in Manchester in the UK.</p><p>Ideally I would like to stock this shop with high quality, warrantied &#039;instruments&#039; and offer repairs for people at reasonable rates. I have also come across a great deal of games, mostly for the gameboy, whilst buying machines on eBay and was also thinking of having a section of the site to sell these, and any other peripherals I&#039;ve obtained (joysticks and so on). All items for sale would be tested, repaired if necessary and working. I&#039;d even be up for selling other peoples stuff if the site became trusted, to ensure that they received an honest and fair price.</p><p>So, I was wondering if this would be of any interest to any of you folks on the forum and what your thoughts would be. I use components from many of you (Thursday, Nonfinite, Kitsch) and I still would but I think that there may well be room for something like this in the UK. I would also be happy to ship to Europe or even further afield if my products were requires overseas.</p><p>Please let me know if you think this would be worthwhile, if I&#039;d be stepping on anyone&#039;s toes or even if there is anything else the community would like of such an enterprise. </p><p>Thanks in advance for any input.</p><p>Alex.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[ChipCzuk]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/ChipCzuk</uri>
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			<updated>2014-09-10T21:02:17Z</updated>
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