<![CDATA[ChipMusic.org - C64 SID shootout - 6581 vs 8580]]> 2020-02-19T21:50:45Z PunBB https://chipmusic.org/forums/topic/17495/c64-sid-shootout-6581-vs-8580/ <![CDATA[Re: C64 SID shootout - 6581 vs 8580]]> str wrote:

"New" SID and SID replacement comparisons:
http://kompjut0r.blogspot.com/2019/01/f … d6581.html
http://kompjut0r.blogspot.com/2018/04/s … te_12.html
http://kompjut0r.blogspot.com/2018/04/s … imate.html

This is awesome! Great work.

]]> https://chipmusic.org/wedanced 2020-02-19T21:50:45Z https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/263232/#p263232 <![CDATA[Re: C64 SID shootout - 6581 vs 8580]]> "New" SID and SID replacement comparisons:
http://kompjut0r.blogspot.com/2019/01/f … d6581.html
http://kompjut0r.blogspot.com/2018/04/s … te_12.html
http://kompjut0r.blogspot.com/2018/04/s … imate.html

]]> https://chipmusic.org/str 2019-12-27T11:41:48Z https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/262881/#p262881 <![CDATA[Re: C64 SID shootout - 6581 vs 8580]]> This is a great comparison. I am pretty sure I have a R3 revision given the samples.

It would be interesting to see a comparison with the modern replacement chips included too.

]]> https://chipmusic.org/wedanced 2019-06-27T06:22:17Z https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/262151/#p262151 <![CDATA[Re: C64 SID shootout - 6581 vs 8580]]> Well i've ordered an FPGASID. Tried SwinSIDnano, it's ok, but not ideal. Fingers crossed that FPGASID is better.

]]> https://chipmusic.org/danthalian 2019-05-13T05:54:15Z https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/262013/#p262013 <![CDATA[Re: C64 SID shootout - 6581 vs 8580]]> Really, thats exactly what Ive been looking for...

Im about to order the TherapSid for Twisted Electrons and wanted a resourse for the MOS SID Chips. Im considering a mix now 6581R4 and 6581R4AR if I can find them!

Any take on the Nano SwinSID Ultimate?

https://www.polyplay.xyz/SwinSID-Ultimate_1

Realistically, sourcing these chips for them to fail soon (?) would be a bummer. YouTube reviews seem close and impressive...

https://youtu.be/gVQH-vEG1mc

Cheers!

]]> https://chipmusic.org/vekter303 2019-05-12T18:10:24Z https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/262011/#p262011 <![CDATA[Re: C64 SID shootout - 6581 vs 8580]]> This is a great resource, thanks for the hard work

]]> https://chipmusic.org/herr_prof 2018-04-15T01:02:10Z https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/256020/#p256020 <![CDATA[Re: C64 SID shootout - 6581 vs 8580]]> I really like some of the mixed (broken) waveforms on the 6581. If I remember correct the tri+sqr can be really raspy and expressive with PWM.

]]> https://chipmusic.org/TylerBarnes 2018-04-14T20:37:41Z https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/256019/#p256019 <![CDATA[Re: C64 SID shootout - 6581 vs 8580]]> Since the initial post in this topic I made a few more comparison tests. Check it out if you are interested to hear how the SID replacement chips sound compared to the original:
https://kompjut0r.blogspot.de/search/label/shootout

(start from the bottom, newer posts are on the top)

]]> https://chipmusic.org/str 2018-04-14T12:10:42Z https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/256018/#p256018 <![CDATA[Re: C64 SID shootout - 6581 vs 8580]]> 4mat: yes, each sid revision has its beauty. for a loong long time i only had the 8580 and once i bought an old breadbin with 6581 every music sounded weird smile even the ones that were composed on 6581.
the 8580 can mix waveforms and it has some other advantages as well.

i would love to hear more opinion about different revisions and their sound, probably everyone has a different opinion and taste smile

]]> https://chipmusic.org/str 2016-01-05T21:19:57Z https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/238155/#p238155 <![CDATA[Re: C64 SID shootout - 6581 vs 8580]]> Just in love with R3 smile

]]> https://chipmusic.org/d3Ni%24e 2016-01-04T14:20:21Z https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/238108/#p238108 <![CDATA[Re: C64 SID shootout - 6581 vs 8580]]> Most modern demoscene musicians stick with 8580, though personally I have a soft spot for the rumbly R4 filter.  (the best sid is the one you grew up with I guess)  The 8580 also has slightly different waveform reponses here and there iirc.

]]> https://chipmusic.org/4mat 2016-01-04T00:18:00Z https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/238104/#p238104 <![CDATA[Re: C64 SID shootout - 6581 vs 8580]]> yeah, all of those revisions are different and in theory none of the c64's sound the same because of the circuit design and different elements in and around the SID chip smile
i'm going to make another test soon because i'm curious how the R3 would sound in the Breadbin motherboard. will it be noisy as hell or the noise depends on the VIC chip..?
ladies and gentlemen, make your bets smile

]]> https://chipmusic.org/str 2016-01-03T21:48:41Z https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/238100/#p238100 <![CDATA[Re: C64 SID shootout - 6581 vs 8580]]> Thanks for this.  I've always heard they were different, but this shows how different they really are.

]]> https://chipmusic.org/dustfilledhobo 2016-01-01T17:13:22Z https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/238020/#p238020 <![CDATA[Re: C64 SID shootout - 6581 vs 8580]]> Wow, very cool comparison! Part 2 definitely shows the differences between each chip and that R3 sure is noisy as hell.

]]> https://chipmusic.org/2PLAYER 2015-12-31T16:20:07Z https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/237961/#p237961 <![CDATA[Re: C64 SID shootout - 6581 vs 8580]]> This is really cool. Great job!

]]> https://chipmusic.org/The+Laohu 2015-12-31T15:25:58Z https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/237960/#p237960