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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Distortion when using volume command on low samples]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Its not a bug its a feature <img src="https://chipmusic.org/forums/img/smilies/big_smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="big_smile" /></p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2016-01-28T01:27:23Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Distortion when using volume command on low samples]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Bummer.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[mk]]></name>
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			<updated>2016-01-27T23:53:29Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Distortion when using volume command on low samples]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>Marc Resibois wrote:</cite><blockquote><p> Ramps generate by command are not processed at every sample because that would kill the cpu. So it&#039;s actually &quot;staircases&quot; rather than ramps. Low tuned samples like 808 kicks or low sine are indeed not liking this too much. They are always good detectors for half-assed interpolation</p></blockquote></div>]]></content>
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			<updated>2016-01-27T16:15:47Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Distortion when using volume command on low samples]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>How did you generate it?</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2016-01-27T14:55:51Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Distortion when using volume command on low samples]]></title>
			<link rel="alternate" href="https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/238906/#p238906"/>
			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Hmm, still get the noise.</p><p><a href="https://www.dropbox.com/sh/5trj801kx3bw1ze/AABxmTPTVt1NRVs1P943ZiEBa?dl=1" target="_blank">https://www.dropbox.com/sh/5trj801kx3bw &#133; ZiEBa?dl=1</a></p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[mk]]></name>
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			<updated>2016-01-27T09:46:32Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Distortion when using volume command on low samples]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Interesting. </p><p>If I have a pure generated sin wav at 44100 from the start, it shouldn&#039;t happen?</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[mk]]></name>
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			<updated>2016-01-27T09:42:38Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Distortion when using volume command on low samples]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Right, what Im saying is that it sounds like aliasing from a bad down convert from a higher sample rate to cd quality. If you did a brick wall filter above the highest part of the kick frequency it would go away.</p><p>The fact that the sound goes away using a filter cut implies its noise in the sample itself, not a bug in piggy (although pig could probably handle aliasing noise better)</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2016-01-27T02:13:47Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Distortion when using volume command on low samples]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Samples processed outside of LGPT aren&#039;t a problem.. I can just put a vol ramp on the kick, but I&#039;d like to be able to control it within the sequence. If it was something you could turn on or off.. that&#039;d be cool.. but it&#039;s just an annoyance <img src="https://chipmusic.org/forums/img/smilies/sad.png" width="15" height="15" alt="sad" /></p>]]></content>
			<author>
				<name><![CDATA[mk]]></name>
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			<updated>2016-01-27T02:06:25Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Distortion when using volume command on low samples]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Were there converted from a higher quality format? It sounds to me like aliasing noise, if i slap a filter cut on it I can minimize the sound. You can try processing the sample yourself for 44.1 with dithering and see if that helps:</p><p><a href="http://www.darkroommastering.com/blog/dithering-explained" target="_blank">http://www.darkroommastering.com/blog/d &#133; -explained</a></p><p>PS the noise sounds amazing when you crush it further.</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2016-01-26T17:30:07Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Distortion when using volume command on low samples]]></title>
			<link rel="alternate" href="https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/238871/#p238871"/>
			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p><a href="https://www.dropbox.com/sh/jytn2utz8nqxftz/AABjyCm_94ah1ywMlmyJnVsha?dl=1" target="_blank">https://www.dropbox.com/sh/jytn2utz8nqx &#133; nVsha?dl=1</a></p><p>Here&#039;s a test file. Interesting that setting the volume low eg. VOLM 0001 does not cause it.. </p><p>Values over 0B00 aren&#039;t so noticeable - it&#039;s very short slides eg. 0100 to 0800 which seem to cause it.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[mk]]></name>
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			<updated>2016-01-26T10:02:28Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Distortion when using volume command on low samples]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>It is set to &quot;linear&quot;</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[mk]]></name>
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			<updated>2016-01-26T09:56:32Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Distortion when using volume command on low samples]]></title>
			<link rel="alternate" href="https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/238867/#p238867"/>
			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Is interpolation on or off?</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[herr_prof]]></name>
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			<updated>2016-01-26T06:36:36Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Distortion when using volume command on low samples]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>I&#039;ve been mucking around with piggy tracker a lot these days. One thing which really bothers me, is with lower-tuned samples, when using the volume command there&#039;s a noticeable distortion, or perhaps loss of resolution. I made a very simple test comparing piggy to a manually volume ramped (in ocenaudio) 808 kick.</p><p><a href="https://soundcloud.com/metrodub/lgpt-distortion" target="_blank">https://soundcloud.com/metrodub/lgpt-distortion</a></p><p>This is on the OSX version.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[mk]]></name>
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			<updated>2016-01-26T05:15:11Z</updated>
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