I have a question related to this discussion: what's fakebit? Is it also tracker music?
And can 'Feel so real' by Unicorn Kid be considered fakebit?

Fakebit is the term used to exaggerate the size of one's perceived genitalia over people on the internet who use software music making tools that do not contain authentic hardware programmable sound generators.

idk what a unicorn kid is (everyone identifies with something nowadays) but you're probably setting me up for a joke...

But making chipmusic "emulating" sounds in nonchiptune VSTis will sounds strange.

Unless you take great pains and pay much effort and attention to detail to make it sound like a specific system or collection of systems

And also when you are doing "hybrid" chiptunes (8bit via MIDI and modern synths or 8bit samples meets modern samples in modern DAW) you can stay on modern HW...
But making chipmusic "emulating" sounds in nonchiptune VSTis will sounds strange. I mean lot of POP producers do that. But you will hear it that PSG sounds strange...

One does not wish to be unduly harsh at this critcal moment however, if I may interject, I would like to put forward the following query:

The subject of this thread was "opinions on using more modern devices for chip music", was it not?

I understand that numerous participants in this communication are more interested in the follow up question "what is authentic chipmusic?", nonetheless, in my humble opinion it would be delightful to discover at this juncture peoples thoughts on which devices in particular seem to hold esteem in the community regarding usefulness in the future of this seemingly cherished and adored "chipmusic".

tbh, I didn't like the title when I first posted, I just stuck with it because I didn't feel like spending hours coming up with a better one. Basically I wanted to know if people considered music from the sample based trackers and sequencers on the DS and PSP as authentic chip music, and I'm pleasantly surprised by the discussion going on. I didn't know very much about the Amiga music scene until reading these responses.
And I would have continued using my DS and PSP in my music because I grew up with those devices and I like their sound.

The subject of this thread was "opinions on using more modern devices for chip music", was it not?

I understand that numerous participants in this communication are more interested in the follow up question "what is authentic chipmusic?", nonetheless, in my humble opinion it would be delightful to discover at this juncture peoples thoughts on which devices in particular seem to hold esteem in the community regarding usefulness in the future of this seemingly cherished and adored "chipmusic".

I furhtermore think that the chiptune ~Aesthetic~ (bet everyone here loves that word by now) is up for grabs by anyone who cares to do so (again: as is with pixelated indiegames).
I personally give more cred, however, to someone making a proper banger on a 3 or 4 channel soundchip than someone who does it on unlimited channels in a DAW. I've done both and my recent music is definitely "modern DAW chip" without pretense But I also make my share of LSDJ tunes. Both of them fulfill me and both excel at their respective areas.

Making something on a limited platform doesn't mean it's automatically good. So you can have all the "authenticity" of just using a SID-chip all you want. If it's bollocks, it's bollocks. (Believe me, I know)

I just furthermore feel that such a worrying about doing the "right thing" just plain gets in the way of just *doing something*.

Modern and powerful equipment can create et emulate chiptunes, but since it's more complex (involving a full computer chain), I find it less interesting (like samples based music).

This thread is closed.

is probably what this would have said a couple years ago.

My opinion is that sometimes there's no other way to get the exact sound you want unless you turn to old software and old technology. Sometimes that's a pain in the ass and a VST will make what you want to hear faster. This is a worn out subject and really nothing to be concerned with.

"Chiptune/chipmusic" has a well-defined center but such a stupidly vague edge that lately I've come to think of the term as a philosophy even more than a method or a genre.
after all,  I think all chip really is deep down is celebrating old, outcast, or uncommon technology by bringing it into the present. You can do that by pushing the boundaries of limited tools or you can do it by combining those tools with modern ones or you can even just give an earnest homage to those tools and not actually use them, and as long as its a sincere statement I think it can fall under the name.

(that being said I've definitely heard 'chipmusic' that I'd have a really hard time actually classifying as chip)

I'm pretty much in agreement with this, however I've always felt that a mission statement of chipmusic was to push older hardware further than it was originally intended to show what it could really be capable of.  Kind of a spiritual successor to demoscene I guess.

I understand your premise in that you are implying that many respected musicians have indeed been drug users and/or "lgbt", howevever, at no point in my post did I categorically state that I was opposed to these things but rather that the assumption that LSDJ is somehow intrinsically "psychedelic drug software" or that LittleGameParkTracker is somehow intrinsically "Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual and Transgender" software has previously been irksome for oneself. You sir, have a bee in your bonnet.

On a totally unrelated sidenote it kind of annoys me that your average guy looks at the name "LSDJ" and thinks, "they must be taking or selling acid"...alternatively..."that software must be for making acid house music"...whilst your average guy sees the name LGPT and thinks "lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender"...

if potentially having someone think you might be interested in drugs or are a supporter of the LGBT community bothers you, perhaps making music isn't for you