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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Best way to rip vocals or samples?]]></title>
			<link rel="alternate" href="https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/34791/#p34791"/>
			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>this could actually be a good solution: <a href="http://www.izotope.com/tech/vocalremover/" target="_blank">http://www.izotope.com/tech/vocalremover/</a></p><p>i haven&#039;t tried this specific piece of software, but i have used izotope&#039;s RX noise reduction software, and that has worked wonders for me in the past with restoring poorly recorded audio.&nbsp; </p><p>if they have figured out how to optimize their RX software for specifically removing lead vox, this may indeed work pretty well.&nbsp; the examples in the sample playlist are pretty amazing (granted, they are the ones who chose those specific clips).</p><p>this is why i think this may be a better solution:<br />&quot;The iZotope VocalRemover uses an advanced set of filterbank signal processing algorithms to remove the vocals while still preserving the stereo image of the music. Many simple products use &quot;center channel removal&quot; which ends up removing a lot more than just the lead vocal.&quot;</p><p>much better approach.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[macrophones]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/macrophones</uri>
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			<updated>2010-08-14T23:02:19Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Best way to rip vocals or samples?]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Using phase cancellation to remove the entire mono center of a stereo mix will usually remove the majority of the lead vocal, but you might also end up losing the bass guitar/snare/kick/whatever else was mono.&nbsp; </p><p>using sum and difference techniques, such as the ones being exhibited by the first example in the ableton vid, is a similar process of decoding a stereo signal into it&#039;s respective parts (the difference being what is left over after the mono summed information in the center of the stereo mix have been nulled).&nbsp; </p><p>so while those processes do kinda work, they are less than ideal because what you are left with sounds very empty (not simply as if the vocal has been sucked out).</p><p>trying to isolate or remove an instrument/vocal from a stereo mixdown is a serious challenge, even with all of the processing power we have at our disposal these days.&nbsp; </p><p>When the Beatles catalog was remastered last year, they were simultaneously trying to prepare the tracks for &#039;Beatles Rock Band&#039;.&nbsp; They needed to have each instrument isolated so that when a player messed up on the guitar or drum part, the guitar or drums would drop out of the mix respectively. They were able to completely isolate tracks by using CEDAR restoration tools.&nbsp; CEDAR is usually used in film and archival remastering to remove clicks/pops/hiss/rumble as well as other unwanted background noise.&nbsp; They realized it was powerful enough to remove entire instruments from mixdowns of the Beatles catalog.&nbsp; </p><p>check out this link: <a href="http://www.cedar-audio.com/news/ibs_lecture2009.html" target="_blank">http://www.cedar-audio.com/news/ibs_lecture2009.html</a></p><p>definitely overkill for doing a lil&#039; remix, but in an ideal world, that&#039;s how it would be done.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[macrophones]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/macrophones</uri>
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			<updated>2010-08-14T20:22:24Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>arottenbit wrote:</cite><blockquote><p><div class="embed_video"><iframe width="560" height="340" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/_-agl0pOQfs" frameborder="0" webkitallowfullscreen mozallowfullscreen allowfullscreen></iframe></div><br />magic&#039;s everywhere in this, bitch.</p></blockquote></div><br /><p><a href="http://www.cracked.com/blog/learn-your-motherfuckin-science-with-the-icp/" target="_blank">http://www.cracked.com/blog/learn-your- &#133; h-the-icp/</a>&nbsp; XD</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[BitPop]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/BitPop</uri>
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			<updated>2010-07-07T12:01:02Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Best way to rip vocals or samples?]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p><div class="embed_video"><iframe width="560" height="340" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/_-agl0pOQfs" frameborder="0" webkitallowfullscreen mozallowfullscreen allowfullscreen></iframe></div><br />magic&#039;s everywhere in this, bitch.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[arottenbit]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/arottenbit</uri>
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			<updated>2010-07-07T11:48:09Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p><div class="embed_video"><iframe width="560" height="340" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/4QilcEDRtRU" frameborder="0" webkitallowfullscreen mozallowfullscreen allowfullscreen></iframe></div></p><p><a href="http://www.paintingbynumbers.com/bootcamp/" target="_blank">http://www.paintingbynumbers.com/bootcamp/</a></p>]]></content>
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				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/CMDR</uri>
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			<updated>2010-07-07T11:37:19Z</updated>
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				<name><![CDATA[jikoo]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/jikoo</uri>
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			<updated>2010-07-07T07:07:04Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Best way to rip vocals or samples?]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>ant1 wrote:</cite><blockquote><div class="quotebox"><cite>iLKke wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>I know there&#039;s a method of REMOVING the vocals from the track, but I have no idea how to isolate just the vocals.</p></blockquote></div><p>track with vocals - track with no vocals = vocals with no track</p><p>If you have both the original and the same (must be exactly the same) instrumental it should be pretty easy to subtract the two. So go ahead and post your method for removing the vocals! <img src="https://chipmusic.org/forums/img/smilies/big_smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="big_smile" /></p></blockquote></div><p>It&#039;s the phase inversion CMDR described. <br />There&#039;s a plugin for winamp that&#039;s useful for giving you a good idea of how well it will work with a certain track.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[iLKke]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/iLKke</uri>
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			<updated>2010-07-07T06:46:12Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Best way to rip vocals or samples?]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>iLKke wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>I know there&#039;s a method of REMOVING the vocals from the track, but I have no idea how to isolate just the vocals.</p></blockquote></div><p>track with vocals - track with no vocals = vocals with no track</p><p>If you have both the original and the same (must be exactly the same) instrumental it should be pretty easy to subtract the two. So go ahead and post your method for removing the vocals! <img src="https://chipmusic.org/forums/img/smilies/big_smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="big_smile" /></p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[ant1]]></name>
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			<updated>2010-07-06T19:24:43Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for offering a tutorial! But I think I got it, but if I need help, I&#039;ll talk to ya <img src="https://chipmusic.org/forums/img/smilies/smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="smile" /></p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[ascii]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/ascii</uri>
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			<updated>2010-07-06T18:34:55Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Best way to rip vocals or samples?]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Sample from the best quality possible. (FLAC, Vinyl etc)<br />Use the best equipment possible to sample.<br />Keep the noise floor low when recording (ungrounded (laptop) power supplies, unused inputs on mixer with gain up)</p><p>You can use phase inversion to cut the sides of the mix out (leaving the vocals) and then invert this against the original to cut the vocals out of the original.</p><p>I will make a little tutorial to do this for ableton live and audacity if you want?</p><p>This method doesnt work on everything, but it&#039;s better for older (before 80s) music where hard panning was all the rage.</p><p>You can then filter, eq and gate out anything left over, as it might just cut out the bass and drums.</p><p>It really depends on the song!</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[CMDR]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/CMDR</uri>
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			<updated>2010-07-06T18:27:57Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Wow, thanks a lot guys! <img src="https://chipmusic.org/forums/img/smilies/smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="smile" /></p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[ascii]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/ascii</uri>
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			<updated>2010-07-06T13:28:53Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>You can filter out audio under vocals in audacity with its noise removal tool, if there&#039;s a section of the same music pattern <em>without</em> the vocals. This produces noticeable artefacts, which sound very ugly. You&#039;re probably better off with looking for an acapella stem of the track.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[µB]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/%C2%B5B</uri>
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			<updated>2010-07-06T12:48:00Z</updated>
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			<link rel="alternate" href="https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/29633/#p29633"/>
			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>don&#039;t sample youtube, go hardcore:<br /><a href="http://chipmusic.org/forums/topic/1266/youtube-tracker/" target="_blank">http://chipmusic.org/forums/topic/1266/youtube-tracker/</a><br />or<br /><a href="http://chipmusic.org/forums/topic/1231/youtube-midi-interface/" target="_blank">http://chipmusic.org/forums/topic/1231/ &#133; interface/</a></p><p>as for other sampling, adobe audition is also very good</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[the mist toggles]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/the+mist+toggles</uri>
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			<updated>2010-07-06T12:40:01Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Alot of pop songs you can google &quot;songtitle acapella&quot; and get just the vocals, my friends and I did this last summer when making mashup suff</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Ro-Bear]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/Ro-Bear</uri>
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			<updated>2010-07-06T12:28:48Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>I know there&#039;s a method of REMOVING the vocals from the track, but I have no idea how to isolate just the vocals.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[iLKke]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/iLKke</uri>
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			<updated>2010-07-06T08:34:22Z</updated>
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