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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Overdubbing?]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>Dolby-Z wrote:</cite><blockquote><p> the artist has to do some pretty crazy stuff to make just one console sound full.</p></blockquote></div><p>That depends on what &quot;full&quot; means to you. The ability to have two notes at a time create a song that sounds complete is an important compositional skill, even if you never get good enough at it to release the results. If you mean the frequency spectrum, that&#039;s as simple as playing a square wave at full volume.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[chunter]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/chunter</uri>
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			<updated>2016-04-18T22:53:46Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Overdubbing?]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>donotrunwithpixels wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>But also, if only one console sounds too thin, you&#039;re doing only one console wrong.</p></blockquote></div><p>I&#039;ve heard some pretty impressive one-console stuff,&nbsp; but the stuff the artist has to do some pretty crazy stuff to make just one console sound full. The artists who can pull off that sort of thing are the exception.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Dolby-Z]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/Dolby-Z</uri>
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			<updated>2016-04-18T18:14:38Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Overdubbing?]]></title>
			<link rel="alternate" href="https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/242911/#p242911"/>
			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>renoise is fantastic. the new instruments workflow makes sound design a dream come true. i regularly use it as a rewire slave to reaper so that i can record live audio too. best of both worlds</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[urbster1]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/urbster1</uri>
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			<updated>2016-04-18T16:51:11Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Overdubbing?]]></title>
			<link rel="alternate" href="https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/242890/#p242890"/>
			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>also your not limited to samples only in renoise. you can easily use vsti as your oscillators.<br />out of all trackers renoise has the most resolution for automation as well as other things. 256 divisions per line. If the need is for in the box synths inside a tracker, and portability (tablets, phones) then sunvox is the way to go. in my humble opinion sir, sunvox and renoise are the best trackers to date.</p><p>instead of tables, renoise has phrases.<br />sunvox also has phrases, inside metamodule.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[JaffaCakeMexica]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/JaffaCakeMexica</uri>
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			<updated>2016-04-18T12:48:02Z</updated>
			<id>https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/242890/#p242890</id>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Overdubbing?]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>+1 renoise. </p><p>But also, if only one console sounds too thin, you&#039;re doing only one console wrong.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[donotrunwithpixels]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/donotrunwithpixels</uri>
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			<updated>2016-04-18T12:07:09Z</updated>
			<id>https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/242888/#p242888</id>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Overdubbing?]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>You can draw a familiar synth waveform as a Renoise sample and use its instrument effects as you would on any synthesizer if that helps. Version 3.1 implements the Redux instrument engine so the process can be as simple or complex as you want.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[chunter]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/chunter</uri>
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			<updated>2016-04-18T11:35:38Z</updated>
			<id>https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/242887/#p242887</id>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Overdubbing?]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>arlen wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Renoise is great. I record more in Renoise than I do in Reaper lol. Try out the demo, it gives you everything except exporting to .wav (Honestly, you can get around this if you really want to, but I suggest supporting the dev team. They&#039;re a great group).</p><p>I used the demo of Renoise from about 2007 to 2011 I think, then I bought a license. Worth every penny. I love the way their license system works compared to other DAWs (I respect Reaper&#039;s pricing model, too. Very fair). You buy a license and you&#039;re good from the current version up to the next full version. So right now you&#039;d buy at version 3.1.x and be good until 4.1.x and that takes a long, long time. I bought at 2.9 I think and it&#039;s been nearly 5 years now. Even in that time there have been plenty of changes and updates, but they don&#039;t go up the version numbers too fast unless there&#039;s a big, big change in features.</p></blockquote></div><p>I hear what you&#039;re saying but I have a long way to go before understanding using stuff like that. Its all sample based is it not? LSDJ was my very first exposure to using trackers whatsoever and my abilities with that isn&#039;t super great (probably evidenced by the music I&#039;ve posted here.) Getting good things out of tables for example is a struggle for me, but at least I dont have to find samples since it has built in synthesis. I was considering moving into famitracker to learn something a little &quot;bigger&quot; that also has some built in synthesis. At any rate, yes, I&#039;ll play with Renoise.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[bitpusher2600]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/bitpusher2600</uri>
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			<updated>2016-04-18T07:50:06Z</updated>
			<id>https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/242884/#p242884</id>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Overdubbing?]]></title>
			<link rel="alternate" href="https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/242880/#p242880"/>
			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Renoise is great. I record more in Renoise than I do in Reaper lol. Try out the demo, it gives you everything except exporting to .wav (Honestly, you can get around this if you really want to, but I suggest supporting the dev team. They&#039;re a great group).</p><p>I used the demo of Renoise from about 2007 to 2011 I think, then I bought a license. Worth every penny. I love the way their license system works compared to other DAWs (I respect Reaper&#039;s pricing model, too. Very fair). You buy a license and you&#039;re good from the current version up to the next full version. So right now you&#039;d buy at version 3.1.x and be good until 4.1.x and that takes a long, long time. I bought at 2.9 I think and it&#039;s been nearly 5 years now. Even in that time there have been plenty of changes and updates, but they don&#039;t go up the version numbers too fast unless there&#039;s a big, big change in features.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[arlen]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/arlen</uri>
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			<updated>2016-04-18T04:11:17Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Overdubbing?]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>Dolby-Z wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Does anyone else use traditional DAWs and overdubbing in making chip music?</p></blockquote></div><p>I use Renoise in this way, though when I have moments of self-doubt, I wonder if people think I do it just to be able to post music here and not because I actually wanted to.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[chunter]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/chunter</uri>
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			<updated>2016-04-18T04:00:57Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>last off topic from me, but for people into interesting re-use of bollywood stuff, also check out dan the automator and DJ shadow&#039;s &quot;Bombay the Hard Way&quot; (i was talking about this with some djs about a decade ago when one of them first recommended &quot;bollywood breaks&quot;.. its more of a hip-hop take on bollywood stuff)</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[e.s.c.]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/e.s.c.</uri>
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			<updated>2016-04-17T16:51:27Z</updated>
			<id>https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/242860/#p242860</id>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Overdubbing?]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>i definitely respect the talent of some bollywood singers, enduser added the breaks and made it into a new arrangement&nbsp; nicely. </p><p>Chiranjeevi is pretty awesome, but thats tollywood...from andra pradesh</p><p><a href="https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=W9mf72vp24E" target="_blank">https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=W9mf72vp24E</a></p><p><a href="https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=_k4LOoYA1vw" target="_blank">https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=_k4LOoYA1vw</a></p><p><a href="https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=lWz7Li4mlKA" target="_blank">https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=lWz7Li4mlKA</a></p><p>chiranjeevi&#039;s producer is awesome.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[JaffaCakeMexica]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/JaffaCakeMexica</uri>
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			<updated>2016-04-17T15:45:54Z</updated>
			<id>https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/242857/#p242857</id>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Overdubbing?]]></title>
			<link rel="alternate" href="https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/242837/#p242837"/>
			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>I don&#039;t know much about using DAWs or what plugins do, etc but thanks for the link, I might try playing around with it, can&#039;t hurt.</p><p>Sorry for slightly jacking your thread for a moment there Dolby-Z. Back to your point, everything you are saying, I agree with you 100%. I rather believe your original point is something that separates more talented &#039;composers&#039; from simple &#039;beat makers&#039; like myself. Whole world of difference in overall listening experience certainly.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[bitpusher2600]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/bitpusher2600</uri>
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			<updated>2016-04-17T03:50:03Z</updated>
			<id>https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/242837/#p242837</id>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Overdubbing?]]></title>
			<link rel="alternate" href="https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/242832/#p242832"/>
			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>JaffaCakeMexica wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>the bollywood breaks tune enduser..</p><p><a href="https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=2GKMqi3HmRw" target="_blank">https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=2GKMqi3HmRw</a></p></blockquote></div><p>that EP is great, was the first stuff of his i heard... the one time i played a gig with him, i actually ended up doing his visuals because no carrier needed to rest a little since the show ran from 8pm to 6 am</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[e.s.c.]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/e.s.c.</uri>
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			<updated>2016-04-17T01:47:53Z</updated>
			<id>https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/242832/#p242832</id>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>the bollywood breaks tune enduser..</p><p><a href="https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=2GKMqi3HmRw" target="_blank">https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=2GKMqi3HmRw</a></p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[JaffaCakeMexica]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/JaffaCakeMexica</uri>
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			<updated>2016-04-17T01:37:52Z</updated>
			<id>https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/242831/#p242831</id>
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			<link rel="alternate" href="https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/242825/#p242825"/>
			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>I like to use gameboys as individual instruments rather than trying to pump a whole band worth of sound out of that very limited chip. For example, I&#039;ll dedicate one gameboy to just drums so i can use all four channels to make the best drum sounds I can and then record another track thats just playing chords, and so on. Also, I usually incorporate drum machines, analog synths, and guitars into the mix to fill it out even more. The only reason I use GameBoys and things like that in my music is that I like the unique tonal characteristics of these devices.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Dolby-Z]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/Dolby-Z</uri>
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			<updated>2016-04-17T00:09:30Z</updated>
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