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	<updated>2016-08-25T08:10:17Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Worth switching to Sunvox?]]></title>
			<link rel="alternate" href="https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/247383/#p247383"/>
			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Mmm... tasty. I didn&#039;t know anything about the PocketCHIP. Could make a nice new toy.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[teamoth]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/teamoth</uri>
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			<updated>2016-08-25T08:10:17Z</updated>
			<id>https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/247383/#p247383</id>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Worth switching to Sunvox?]]></title>
			<link rel="alternate" href="https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/247358/#p247358"/>
			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>it&#039;s also working on pocketchip: <a href="http://blog.nextthing.co/making-music-with-sunvox-on-pocketc-h-i-p/" target="_blank">http://blog.nextthing.co/making-music-w &#133; etc-h-i-p/</a></p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[garvalf]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/garvalf</uri>
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			<updated>2016-08-24T13:03:03Z</updated>
			<id>https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/247358/#p247358</id>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Worth switching to Sunvox?]]></title>
			<link rel="alternate" href="https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/247357/#p247357"/>
			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>oh, this is an old thread...</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[teamoth]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/teamoth</uri>
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			<updated>2016-08-24T12:56:45Z</updated>
			<id>https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/247357/#p247357</id>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Worth switching to Sunvox?]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>I love Sunvox, but I mostly make ambient music with bits of field recordings I&#039;ve made and instrument sounds I&#039;ve recorded + loads of delay. I&#039;ve not used it in a chiptune sense, but I&#039;m here because I recently got into Nanoloop and I saw your post.<br />I&#039;ve been using Sunvox since 2009 and got into it because you could use it on portable devices (I was using a Palm Zire 72 and Jornada 720) and also use it on computers, so it&#039;s fantastically cross-platform. Over the years I&#039;ve spent many a lunchbreak making tunes with Sunvox on portable things and then continuing working on it on my PC when I got home.<br />Try it out for free on a &#039;puter and then buy it for portable if you get into it.<br />I&#039;d say the benefit of Sunvox is that you can pick-up the basics real quick and then when you start getting into it you can go real deep. There&#039;s so much you can do with. Plus the forum is pretty good and you can download modules others have posted. I really like the tape delay module someone posted a while ago.<br />Go for it.<br /><a class="postimg" href="http://oi62.tinypic.com/de0xi.jpg" title="PunBB bbcode test" id="forum_image_89400893"><img src="http://oi62.tinypic.com/de0xi.jpg" /></a></p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[teamoth]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/teamoth</uri>
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			<updated>2016-08-24T12:42:11Z</updated>
			<id>https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/247355/#p247355</id>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Worth switching to Sunvox?]]></title>
			<link rel="alternate" href="https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/243196/#p243196"/>
			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>May your sunvox journey be super awesome!</p><p>Heres some nice tutorials to give you a nice start:</p><p><a href="https://m.youtube.com/watch?list=PL62F503E7722DB7CC&amp;v=FJh6yiKPqE4" target="_blank">https://m.youtube.com/watch?list=PL62F5 &#133; Jh6yiKPqE4</a></p><p>Live long and prosper! QAPLA!</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[JaffaCakeMexica]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/JaffaCakeMexica</uri>
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			<updated>2016-04-24T21:18:41Z</updated>
			<id>https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/243196/#p243196</id>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Worth switching to Sunvox?]]></title>
			<link rel="alternate" href="https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/243175/#p243175"/>
			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Cheers for the replies guys.</p><p>marcb0t, yes it&#039;s good to be back mate! I don&#039;t know if it&#039;s the old man in me, but I seem to be more retrospectively focused as of late. In my younger days I was always very forward focused, but lately I&#039;ve had a real itch to jam out to the sounds I grew up with. </p><p>I&#039;ve just been playing with the 8 bit synth in Caustic and it sounds pretty decent through my dt990s. Albeit nowhere near as grungy as the real hardware, but I think I can work with this...</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Osc81]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/Osc81</uri>
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			<updated>2016-04-24T17:02:55Z</updated>
			<id>https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/243175/#p243175</id>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Worth switching to Sunvox?]]></title>
			<link rel="alternate" href="https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/243174/#p243174"/>
			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>It&#039;s unclear to me if you&#039;re saying you want nothing to do with a laptop/desktop setup, but if those are okay for you, I&#039;d recommend giving Renoise a try. It&#039;s not free but it&#039;s relatively cheap, and the free demo is basically fully functional, except for exporting songs and resampling. It&#039;s probably the most &quot;modern&quot; tracker out there, capable of loading VST&#039;s and such. </p><p>Renoise might be overkill if you just want to make chiptunes though, but I think Sunvox is a little overkill for just chiptunes too. Something like Milkytracker is probably best for just chiptunes, as it&#039;s pretty limited in most other areas. </p><p><a href="http://renoise.com/" target="_blank">http://renoise.com/</a></p><p><a href="http://milkytracker.org/" target="_blank">http://milkytracker.org/</a></p><p>Personally, I tried Sunvox a few times and really never clicked with it. I loved the individual instruments, like the FM synth and the Kick synth, but the workflow/interface and some aliasing issues with the higher pitched synth sounds kept me away. I haven&#039;t tried it in years though, maybe some of those issues have been changed or fixed.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Vaina Moinen]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/Vaina+Moinen</uri>
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			<updated>2016-04-24T15:47:27Z</updated>
			<id>https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/243174/#p243174</id>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Worth switching to Sunvox?]]></title>
			<link rel="alternate" href="https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/243169/#p243169"/>
			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>Osc81 wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>I&#039;ve just returned to making music at the ripe old age of 35 after a layoff of almost 15 years!</p></blockquote></div><p>Welcome back to the music scene!</p><div class="quotebox"><cite>Osc81 wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>About a year ago I downloaded Caustic on my IPad for a laugh and I haven&#039;t looked back.</p></blockquote></div><p>Yeah, ain&#039;t that a kick? Caustic is very solid and smooth. It&#039;s not going to give you the most advanced tools out there. But you can still make music that&#039;s good enough for professional quality. I&#039;ve used it many times and am very satisfied with it, for what it is. Great for tracking ideas on the go.</p><div class="quotebox"><cite>Osc81 wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>What are the benefits of using Sunvox?</p></blockquote></div><p>The only benefit I can think of is that you get a different set of sounds and gear. It&#039;s simply another option at best. And a real hassle to use at worse... for me personally at least. I can&#039;t stand the interface on touch screen smart phone. But maybe you will like it. Just give it a free try.</p><p>Sunvox only has a 2OP FM synthesizer. This is good for simulating older Adlib OPL2 sounds, or like on Japanese Sega Master System.</p><p>Caustic has a 3OP FM synthesizer which will allow you to get sounds that are closer to what can be heard on systems like Sega Genesis/MegaDrive and OPL3.</p><p>The subtractive synth on Caustic is great for getting simple square/triangle/saw waves that are common on old school chip tunes. Use the bit-crushing effect on samples to simulate the NES sample channel for instance.</p><p>Keep your eyes peeled. I&#039;ll Personal Message a track I made in Caustic that sounds like an NES, but a little more advanced sound quality.</p><div class="quotebox"><cite>Osc81 wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Sorry for the rambling post. Help a noob, ha...</p></blockquote></div><p>Heh, no worries. Everyone here knows how much I ramble from time to time. What better place than a message board to ramble on?</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[marcb0t]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/marcb0t</uri>
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			<updated>2016-04-24T02:04:44Z</updated>
			<id>https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/243169/#p243169</id>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Worth switching to Sunvox?]]></title>
			<link rel="alternate" href="https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/243144/#p243144"/>
			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Sunvox is very powerful. On your tablet, you&#039;ll get the same interface as on the desktop. The desktop version (linux, mac, windows) version is free as in free beer, the tablet / smartphone version is not free, but quite cheap. Sunvox can&#039;t export to old computer &amp; console format (like Deflemask, goattracker, famitrackrt can do) but I don&#039;t think Caustic can either.</p><p>I&#039;ve never used caustic, so I don&#039;t know if sunvox can be more suitable at making chiptune like sounds, but you can first try to get the desktop version of sunvox. I think it&#039;s rather easy to use and intuitive, even if the interface can look complicated.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[garvalf]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/garvalf</uri>
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			<updated>2016-04-23T13:38:12Z</updated>
			<id>https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/243144/#p243144</id>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Worth switching to Sunvox?]]></title>
			<link rel="alternate" href="https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/243136/#p243136"/>
			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>It&#039;s worth giving it a try for a week or two, at least. No need to &quot;switch&quot;. Just try it out for awhile.</p><p>Inb4 obligatory &quot;sunvox isn&#039;t a chiptune tracker&quot;</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[SketchMan3]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/SketchMan3</uri>
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			<updated>2016-04-23T04:22:14Z</updated>
			<id>https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/243136/#p243136</id>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Worth switching to Sunvox?]]></title>
			<link rel="alternate" href="https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/243118/#p243118"/>
			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>if you&#039;re used to an mpc and you wanna use a computer just get a maschine unit. best of both sides and their pads are better than an mpc imo</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[barbeque]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/barbeque</uri>
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			<updated>2016-04-22T19:14:56Z</updated>
			<id>https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/243118/#p243118</id>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Worth switching to Sunvox?]]></title>
			<link rel="alternate" href="https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/243114/#p243114"/>
			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Hey guys,</p><p>How&#039;s it going?</p><p>I&#039;ve just returned to making music at the ripe old age of 35 after a layoff of almost 15 years! I used to use hardware (RS7000, RM1x, MPC 2000xl, MS2000, etc) and never could get comfortable on a computer after trying a top end Powermac setup, Windows laptop etc. I spend eight hours a day on a pc so I can&#039;t bear to sit on one in my free time. But it was just too frustrating/expensive going back to hardware after getting accustomed to having almost infinite insert effects and synth parts etc.</p><p>About a year ago I downloaded Caustic on my IPad for a laugh and I haven&#039;t looked back. It has that tactile groovebox feel I like but also allows me much of the freedom of a software DAW. However, I&#039;d like to have a go at making some chiptunes and wondered if a tracker like Sunvox would be more suited. I&#039;m already comfortable with the automation, limiter, sidechaining, effects etc on Caustic so I know there&#039;d be a learning curve.</p><p>What are the benefits of using Sunvox? I imagine keyboard shortcuts are not really applicable to an iPad and it&#039;s not like I have a history of using trackers/hexadecimal like many people who have come from the Atari etc. Aside from the deep routing possibilities, what else has Sunvox got to offer? I mainly use Caustic for techno of the more Regis/Surgeon variety and it does the job for that, but for chiptunes people seem to refer to trackers. FWIW I&#039;m not really into the true &#039;authentic&#039; chiptune scene. More the modern incarnations like 8 Bit Weapon etc. I like the production of tracks like Dischipo and The Massacre by FantomenK. Modern production techniques but with a more retrospective soundset.</p><p>Sorry for the rambling post. Help a noob, ha...</p>]]></content>
			<author>
				<name><![CDATA[Osc81]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/Osc81</uri>
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			<updated>2016-04-22T18:27:36Z</updated>
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