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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Opinions wanted: preset browsing in VSTs]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Thanks a lot for the suggestions! I&#039;ll take a look at the UIs mentioned. Banks of named presets definitely sounds like a good starting point.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[bsa]]></name>
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			<updated>2017-03-13T12:35:03Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Opinions wanted: preset browsing in VSTs]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>a: thats what program change banks are for:<br /><a href="https://www.mutools.com/info/docs/mulab/using-bank-select-and-prog-changes.html" target="_blank">https://www.mutools.com/info/docs/mulab &#133; anges.html</a></p><p>That being said, native instruments absynth has a nice way to filter massive amounts of presets using the meta data:<br /><a class="postimg" href="http://static.kvraudio.com/i/b/absynth5.jpg" title="http://static.kvraudio.com/i/b/absynth5.jpg" id="forum_image_43756861"><img src="http://static.kvraudio.com/i/b/absynth5.jpg" /></a></p><p>I would suggest a combo of both, where banks are like 1-128 Bass , 1-128 Leads etc and program changes or filter search loads or filters</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[herr_prof]]></name>
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			<updated>2017-03-11T17:16:05Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Opinions wanted: preset browsing in VSTs]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Afaik there is no international standard for this, but on the briht side: It&#039;s a good opportunity to score some points wih your users. As for reimplementation: at least you can save your code chunks and don&#039;t have to write everything from scratch again. <img src="https://chipmusic.org/forums/img/smilies/smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="smile" /></p><p>Most VSTs I use go with the approach, that has been proven over the last decades. Banks which hold either just a number, or themed presets in them. Think in terms of old synthesizers. They had cards with presets. If you wanted other presets you had to change cards. </p><p>Two of the best preset systems for me are in the Korg legacy VST collection. The M1 has the mentioned card structure and the Monopoly is a bit easier on the eye. Nevertheless, a must have in my opinion is some sort of structured sorting like &quot;leads&quot;, &quot;pads&quot; etc.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[bod]]></name>
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			<updated>2017-03-11T17:15:35Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Opinions wanted: preset browsing in VSTs]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Try the thing Dexed comes with.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[chunter]]></name>
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			<updated>2017-03-11T12:57:20Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Opinions wanted: preset browsing in VSTs]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Hi,</p><p>I&#039;m hoping for advice from musicians with experience with a number of DAWs and plugins, particularly VSTs.</p><p>I&#039;ve created a VST instrument which includes over 1000 presets. Each preset is a single file which can be dragged and dropped into the UI. Of course, this is not very usable or efficient.</p><p>I&#039;ve been trying to figure out if there&#039;s a standard way to handle this problem, but surprisingly I haven&#039;t found an obvious one. What I&#039;ve found is:</p><p>a) Most DAWs support the VST &quot;programs&quot; feature, but that&#039;s often limited to 127 or 255 programs.<br />b) Many plugins implement their own preset browser, probably due to the limitations of a)<br />c) There are FXP / FXB files which are supported by many (but not all DAWs), but these don&#039;t really seem to solve the UI issues</p><p>With 1000s of presets, I guess a UI that supports folders, searching, and a previous / next mechanism might be good. It seems a shame that this needs to be re-implemented in every plugin though. And since I&#039;m a programmer and not a musician, I&#039;m not really sure what actually works best.</p><p>Please let me know what you think!</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[bsa]]></name>
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			<updated>2017-03-11T06:11:05Z</updated>
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