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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: AHX Trouble]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Here&#039;s more data for those who want to replace capacitors on both A1200 and A600 machines:<br /><a href="http://eab.abime.net/showthread.php?t=44138" target="_blank">http://eab.abime.net/showthread.php?t=44138</a></p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[akira^8GB]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/akira%5E8GB</uri>
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			<updated>2010-10-12T20:31:25Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: AHX Trouble]]></title>
			<link rel="alternate" href="https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/41993/#p41993"/>
			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>hm yeah a quick answerer I was, sorry <img src="https://chipmusic.org/forums/img/smilies/tongue.png" width="15" height="15" alt="tongue" /> Your machine is indeed PAL!</p><p>Garbled text could be anything like corrupted memory. This can happen after you run some shit, some program crashes and what not. Always make your tests after a cold boot.</p><p>Regarding the speed, it could be anything, probably teh demo is pushing the machine too hard. Are you sure you are running a demo apt for a STOCK A1200?</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[akira^8GB]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/akira%5E8GB</uri>
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			<updated>2010-10-08T02:58:44Z</updated>
			<id>https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/41993/#p41993</id>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: AHX Trouble]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>akira^8GB wrote:</cite><blockquote><div class="quotebox"><cite>Awol wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>when I ran some demos the text was garbled and one alternated between running too fast and too slow. It was working fine a minute before! Maybe I accidentally fried something with static when I was moving it around? Or hopefully it&#039;s just a loose connection somewhere? <img src="https://chipmusic.org/forums/img/smilies/hmm.png" width="15" height="15" alt="hmm" /></p></blockquote></div><p>There are no such things as loose connections inside an Amiga or something that feeble that would cause random bugs, this is a modern computer, not a C64 <img src="https://chipmusic.org/forums/img/smilies/smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="smile" /><br />I think your problem is trying to run demos on an NTSC machine. Did you switch it to PAL? Nothing runs in NTSC, basically.</p></blockquote></div><p>It&#039;s a PAL machine! And I wasn&#039;t switching it to NTSC at boot.</p><div class="quotebox"><cite>akira^8GB wrote:</cite><blockquote><div class="quotebox"><cite>Awol wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>EDIT: And now my audio has <em>started</em> working, albeit at an extremely low volume!<br />EDIT2: Audio is garbled sometimes though. I am also getting freezes and crashes.</p></blockquote></div><p>Capacitor problem. Change them immediately before they make any more problems.<br />You can&#039;t be sure of any further troubles unless you change EVERY capacitor in the Amiga, not just audio. Capacitors are top on the list when troubleshooting Amiga SMD hardware.</p></blockquote></div><p>Ok, I&#039;ll try switching out the audio capacitors then and see if that helps. I will have to order more to do the rest though.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Awol]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/Awol</uri>
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			<updated>2010-10-08T02:52:00Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: AHX Trouble]]></title>
			<link rel="alternate" href="https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/41988/#p41988"/>
			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>Awol wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>when I ran some demos the text was garbled and one alternated between running too fast and too slow. It was working fine a minute before! Maybe I accidentally fried something with static when I was moving it around? Or hopefully it&#039;s just a loose connection somewhere? <img src="https://chipmusic.org/forums/img/smilies/hmm.png" width="15" height="15" alt="hmm" /></p></blockquote></div><p>There are no such things as loose connections inside an Amiga or something that feeble that would cause random bugs, this is a modern computer, not a C64 <img src="https://chipmusic.org/forums/img/smilies/smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="smile" /><br />I think your problem is trying to run demos on an NTSC machine. Did you switch it to PAL? Nothing runs in NTSC, basically.</p><div class="quotebox"><blockquote><p>EDIT: And now my audio has <em>started</em> working, albeit at an extremely low volume!<br />EDIT2: Audio is garbled sometimes though. I am also getting freezes and crashes.</p></blockquote></div><p>Capacitor problem. Change them immediately before they make any more problems.<br />You can&#039;t be sure of any further troubles unless you change EVERY capacitor in the Amiga, not just audio. Capacitors are top on the list when troubleshooting Amiga SMD hardware.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[akira^8GB]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/akira%5E8GB</uri>
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			<updated>2010-10-08T02:46:32Z</updated>
			<id>https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/41988/#p41988</id>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Yeah I think it&#039;s a PC PSU.</p><p>Well, I made an audio probe, but now the video on my Amiga is malfunctioning as well. It boots to Workbench just fine, but when I ran some demos the text was garbled and one alternated between running too fast and too slow. It was working fine a minute before! Maybe I accidentally fried something with static when I was moving it around? Or hopefully it&#039;s just a loose connection somewhere? <img src="https://chipmusic.org/forums/img/smilies/hmm.png" width="15" height="15" alt="hmm" /></p><p>EDIT: And now my audio has <em>started</em> working, albeit at an extremely low volume!</p><p>EDIT2: Audio is garbled sometimes though. I am also getting freezes and crashes.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Awol]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/Awol</uri>
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			<updated>2010-10-08T01:33:18Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: AHX Trouble]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>Awol wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Interesting! The PSU I&#039;m using is actually some very sketchy DIY thing the previous owner of my Amiga made. It may very well be the problem! I&#039;ll look into this, and if it is the problem, then I guess I&#039;ll just have the replacement caps ready for the future when they really do fail.</p></blockquote></div><p>Is &quot;sketchy&quot;: actually a PC PSU? If so, that&#039;d be much better than an Amiga one.<br />I don&#039;t think this would cause MISSING AUDIO at all. You should replace the caps nonetheless.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[akira^8GB]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/akira%5E8GB</uri>
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			<updated>2010-10-05T18:16:35Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: AHX Trouble]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>trash80 wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Re: SMD soldering. It&#039;s pretty easy if you get the technique down. Check out this pdf as an example from sparkfun <a href="http://www.sparkfun.com/datasheets/Prototyping/General/SolderingBasics.pdf" target="_blank">http://www.sparkfun.com/datasheets/Prot &#133; Basics.pdf</a> ... also this page has a lot more if you scroll down: <a href="http://www.sparkfun.com/commerce/tutorial_info.php?tutorials_id=107" target="_blank">http://www.sparkfun.com/commerce/tutori &#133; als_id=107</a></p></blockquote></div><p>Thanks for the links! I have ordered non-SMD replacements though, so only the desoldering should be tricky. <img src="https://chipmusic.org/forums/img/smilies/smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="smile" /></p><div class="quotebox"><cite>RG wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>You may want to check your power supply or the audio circuit with a multimeter. It&#039;s possible that your supply &quot;works&quot; but fucks up the audio. This was an issue with my first amiga and didn&#039;t really think of it until you said the caps were clean. There&#039;s a simple way to test for this/should be some instructions on aminet.</p></blockquote></div><p>Interesting! The PSU I&#039;m using is actually some very sketchy DIY thing the previous owner of my Amiga made. It may very well be the problem! I&#039;ll look into this, and if it is the problem, then I guess I&#039;ll just have the replacement caps ready for the future when they really do fail.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Awol]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/Awol</uri>
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			<updated>2010-10-05T16:58:57Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: AHX Trouble]]></title>
			<link rel="alternate" href="https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/41595/#p41595"/>
			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Re: SMD soldering. It&#039;s pretty easy if you get the technique down. Check out this pdf as an example from sparkfun <a href="http://www.sparkfun.com/datasheets/Prototyping/General/SolderingBasics.pdf" target="_blank">http://www.sparkfun.com/datasheets/Prot &#133; Basics.pdf</a> ... also this page has a lot more if you scroll down: <a href="http://www.sparkfun.com/commerce/tutorial_info.php?tutorials_id=107" target="_blank">http://www.sparkfun.com/commerce/tutori &#133; als_id=107</a></p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Trash80]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/Trash80</uri>
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			<updated>2010-10-05T06:11:36Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: AHX Trouble]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>You may want to check your power supply or the audio circuit with a multimeter. It&#039;s possible that your supply &quot;works&quot; but fucks up the audio. This was an issue with my first amiga and didn&#039;t really think of it until you said the caps were clean. There&#039;s a simple way to test for this/should be some instructions on aminet.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[RG]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/RG</uri>
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			<updated>2010-10-05T02:12:46Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>I just ordered replacement caps for my Amiga and TV, and also parts to make a simple audio probe.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Awol]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/Awol</uri>
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			<updated>2010-10-05T02:07:09Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the links man. I&#039;m gonna order some parts.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Awol]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/Awol</uri>
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			<updated>2010-09-30T16:46:36Z</updated>
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			<link rel="alternate" href="https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/41003/#p41003"/>
			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Hi man.<br />This link might help:<br /><a href="http://eab.abime.net/showthread.php?t=55430" target="_blank">http://eab.abime.net/showthread.php?t=55430</a></p><p>This guy swapped out the audio caps. you can look at the position where they are (near the audio ports). He also mentions something about non-polarized caps.</p><p>Hope it helps.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[akira^8GB]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/akira%5E8GB</uri>
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			<updated>2010-09-30T11:19:21Z</updated>
			<id>https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/41003/#p41003</id>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Amigakit? Bah, man, armed robbery.<br />As I said, ANY electronic technician CAN do this. You just have to tell him exactly what to do (change the caps). Also, as I said, it is recommended that ALL capacitors on the mothrboard are changed, since they are a source of problems, so you can just take it to this technician and ask him to replace for equivalent, NON SMT components, paying attention to make double-sure the ratings are the same.</p><p>I will, again, strongly recommend AGAINST doing this on your own, but it&#039;s your Amiga after all. Just think you might pass from having a defective computer to having a very expensive and funky looking doorstep.</p><br /><p>You tried many other softwares with audio? Did they have audio? If no, the caps are probably the problem. Now, if you have other problems too (serial I/O, floppy access, mouse) then Paula might be defective. But this is a VERY unlikely scenario.</p><br /><p>This link might help:<br /><a href="http://joj.home.texas.net/amigacap.html" target="_blank">http://joj.home.texas.net/amigacap.html</a></p><p>Here they describe the prob on an A4000, which is almost the same (A600s, A1200s and A4000s suffer the same problem with defective surface mount caps):<br /><a href="http://www.amiga.org/forums/showthread.php?t=41357" target="_blank">http://www.amiga.org/forums/showthread.php?t=41357</a></p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[akira^8GB]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/akira%5E8GB</uri>
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			<updated>2010-09-25T15:28:34Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: AHX Trouble]]></title>
			<link rel="alternate" href="https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/40538/#p40538"/>
			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>I took my Amiga apart to look at the motherboard, and I&#039;m not afraid to try SMD soldering. I&#039;ll just need some tweezers and a steady hand.</p><p>However, nothing looks corroded and all the solder joints are shiny. Is there a way to pinpoint the problem? I want to make sure that the caps are actually the problem before I start the surgery.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Awol]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/Awol</uri>
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			<updated>2010-09-24T23:26:12Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Ah. I&#039;ve never tried soldering SMD before. There&#039;s always a first time right? I&#039;ll open up the Amiga to look at it first and decided if I think it&#039;s something I can do or not. Coincidentally, I also need to replace the caps in my TV.</p><p>EDIT: Amigakit do a cap replacement service, but including shipping it would cost nearly as much as I paid for the Amiga in the first place.<br />It actually costs the same amount to just buy another motherboard from them. So I might as well try and fix mine myself, and if I mess it up, buy another one.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Awol]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/Awol</uri>
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			<updated>2010-09-24T21:28:38Z</updated>
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