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	<title type="html"><![CDATA[ChipMusic.org - MBC5 Clone in CPLD]]></title>
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	<updated>2013-10-08T13:09:22Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: MBC5 Clone in CPLD]]></title>
			<link rel="alternate" href="https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/187239/#p187239"/>
			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Was this made available yet? I don&#039;t want it because I would like the practice in making my own, but just Inc case I have difficulty.;)</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Jazzmarazz]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/Jazzmarazz</uri>
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			<updated>2013-10-08T13:09:22Z</updated>
			<id>https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/187239/#p187239</id>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: MBC5 Clone in CPLD]]></title>
			<link rel="alternate" href="https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/142532/#p142532"/>
			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Curious to what hardware transfererr you are using to change out roms?<br />Very cool!</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[DSC]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/DSC</uri>
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			<updated>2012-11-17T22:54:33Z</updated>
			<id>https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/142532/#p142532</id>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: MBC5 Clone in CPLD]]></title>
			<link rel="alternate" href="https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/142522/#p142522"/>
			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Yes, it&#039;s a am29f016, I have some of them lying arround, but the cart also supports the am29f032 for 32mbit.</p><p>Video!:</p><p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=94JNGmD8vFc" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=94JNGmD8vFc</a></p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[xzakox]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/xzakox</uri>
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			<updated>2012-11-17T21:26:33Z</updated>
			<id>https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/142522/#p142522</id>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: MBC5 Clone in CPLD]]></title>
			<link rel="alternate" href="https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/142480/#p142480"/>
			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Oh shit! Looked at the wrong chip. Yeah, disregard the question.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[nitro2k01]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/nitro2k01</uri>
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			<updated>2012-11-17T18:58:46Z</updated>
			<id>https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/142480/#p142480</id>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: MBC5 Clone in CPLD]]></title>
			<link rel="alternate" href="https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/142471/#p142471"/>
			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>AM29F016D, by spansion</p><p>here&#039;s the datasheet: <a href="http://www.spansion.com/Support/Datasheets/AM29F016D_EOL_21444e9.pdf" target="_blank">http://www.spansion.com/Support/Datashe &#133; 1444e9.pdf</a></p><p>unless you were asking for the ram</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[kitsch]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/kitsch</uri>
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			<updated>2012-11-17T18:36:15Z</updated>
			<id>https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/142471/#p142471</id>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: MBC5 Clone in CPLD]]></title>
			<link rel="alternate" href="https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/142469/#p142469"/>
			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>xzakox, which flash chip is that?</p>]]></content>
			<author>
				<name><![CDATA[nitro2k01]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/nitro2k01</uri>
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			<updated>2012-11-17T18:34:33Z</updated>
			<id>https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/142469/#p142469</id>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: MBC5 Clone in CPLD]]></title>
			<link rel="alternate" href="https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/142465/#p142465"/>
			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>One picture of the WIP cart:<br /><a href="http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/854/dsc0504ma.jpg/" target="_blank"><a class="postimg" href="http://img854.imageshack.us/img854/1667/dsc0504ma.jpg" title="http://img854.imageshack.us/img854/1667/dsc0504ma.jpg" id="forum_image_40371897"><img src="http://img854.imageshack.us/img854/1667/dsc0504ma.jpg" /></a></a></p>]]></content>
			<author>
				<name><![CDATA[xzakox]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/xzakox</uri>
			</author>
			<updated>2012-11-17T18:31:31Z</updated>
			<id>https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/142465/#p142465</id>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: MBC5 Clone in CPLD]]></title>
			<link rel="alternate" href="https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/141983/#p141983"/>
			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Zako, you need to come to #gbdev again.</p>]]></content>
			<author>
				<name><![CDATA[nitro2k01]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/nitro2k01</uri>
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			<updated>2012-11-15T05:23:12Z</updated>
			<id>https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/141983/#p141983</id>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: MBC5 Clone in CPLD]]></title>
			<link rel="alternate" href="https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/141982/#p141982"/>
			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Wow! :DD Looks rad!</p>]]></content>
			<author>
				<name><![CDATA[Toastypinecone]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/Toastypinecone</uri>
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			<updated>2012-11-15T05:21:25Z</updated>
			<id>https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/141982/#p141982</id>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: MBC5 Clone in CPLD]]></title>
			<link rel="alternate" href="https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/141954/#p141954"/>
			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>nice work!</p><p>so satisfying getting that stuff working. (the drag&#039;n&#039;derp has a MBC5/3.3v cpld-based design also.)</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[abrasive]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/abrasive</uri>
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			<updated>2012-11-15T02:49:53Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: MBC5 Clone in CPLD]]></title>
			<link rel="alternate" href="https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/141953/#p141953"/>
			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Nice work!&nbsp; Excited to see where this goes.</p>]]></content>
			<author>
				<name><![CDATA[Theta_Frost]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/Theta_Frost</uri>
			</author>
			<updated>2012-11-15T02:43:11Z</updated>
			<id>https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/141953/#p141953</id>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: MBC5 Clone in CPLD]]></title>
			<link rel="alternate" href="https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/141951/#p141951"/>
			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>This is a huge deal for the scene. I might have to PM you later...</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[thebitman]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/thebitman</uri>
			</author>
			<updated>2012-11-15T02:20:11Z</updated>
			<id>https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/141951/#p141951</id>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: MBC5 Clone in CPLD]]></title>
			<link rel="alternate" href="https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/141947/#p141947"/>
			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>That sounds like excellent news. The Drag&#039;n&#039;Derp cart uses this cool ferroelectric RAM that can supposedly retain data for 10 decades without a battery. Is this something you&#039;d see in the future of this project?</p>]]></content>
			<author>
				<name><![CDATA[lastfuture]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/lastfuture</uri>
			</author>
			<updated>2012-11-15T01:58:39Z</updated>
			<id>https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/141947/#p141947</id>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: MBC5 Clone in CPLD]]></title>
			<link rel="alternate" href="https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/141927/#p141927"/>
			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Ok, it&#039;s been a while... :-)<br />A while after my last post, I received the PCBs and tested the CPLD design, and it had some bugs that made games work badly or not work at all, and the save games were also not working, so I redid the design several times, with no luck, looking at the MBC5 as a black box is difficult, but the problem was me, I was not discovering what I was doing bad, so I got frustated and stopped for a while. I tried to make it work from time to time, but I had several other projects and started a new job, so things got stalled.<br />Some days ago I tried again, searching information I found some guy at the nesdev forums also trying to make the MBC5 clone and a flashcart, so we talked a bit, and I remembered that I have a working flashcart with a mbc1 clone (just the rom mapping) using standard 74xxx logic chips. So i started from that design, and today I got it to work. I tried Super Mario Bros Deluxe DX and Zelda DX and both worked perfect, with savegames and everything.<br />I&#039;ll update soon, I&#039;m going to test it a bit more, but I think it is a big milestone for this humble project. I&#039;ll make the MBC5 clone opensource as promised, so keep tuned.<br />Now I have to fix some errors I had on the prototype PCBs, order a new batch, and test everything, but I&#039;m really happy right now!<br /><img src="https://chipmusic.org/forums/img/smilies/big_smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="big_smile" /> <img src="https://chipmusic.org/forums/img/smilies/big_smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="big_smile" /> <img src="https://chipmusic.org/forums/img/smilies/big_smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="big_smile" /></p><p>For the future I&#039;ll try to make a new design using 3.3v logic, that will enable us to use modern and on stock components (it&#039;s been a pain finding 5v flash chips), but for now I&#039;ll publish what I have righ now in a few days, once I&#039;m sure the MBC5 clone implementation&nbsp; works perfect.</p><p>Expect a video soon!</p>]]></content>
			<author>
				<name><![CDATA[xzakox]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/xzakox</uri>
			</author>
			<updated>2012-11-14T23:52:08Z</updated>
			<id>https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/141927/#p141927</id>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: MBC5 Clone in CPLD]]></title>
			<link rel="alternate" href="https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/52519/#p52519"/>
			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>I&#039;m waiting for the prototype PCB&#039;s, will update soon <img src="https://chipmusic.org/forums/img/smilies/smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="smile" /></p>]]></content>
			<author>
				<name><![CDATA[xzakox]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/xzakox</uri>
			</author>
			<updated>2011-01-26T16:36:12Z</updated>
			<id>https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/52519/#p52519</id>
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