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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: ROMs that don't store SRAM]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>Kris k wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>muddygb, mgb, pounder...</p></blockquote></div><p>Just to be clear&nbsp; mGB aka midiGB, will overwrite your save memory. or at least some of it. mGB supports presets.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Trash80]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/Trash80</uri>
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			<updated>2010-12-21T00:12:18Z</updated>
			<id>https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/49214/#p49214</id>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: ROMs that don't store SRAM]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Looks like some sweet plans in development. I hope you find time to keep working on this. I love to see things keep moving forward. Now if only my EMS cart would work with Windows 7 blah.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Zef]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/Zef</uri>
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			<updated>2010-12-20T21:42:39Z</updated>
			<id>https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/49207/#p49207</id>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: ROMs that don't store SRAM]]></title>
			<link rel="alternate" href="https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/48996/#p48996"/>
			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>nitro is my hero. Now watch him come right back and totally destroy that statement...</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[stargazer]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/stargazer</uri>
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			<updated>2010-12-17T00:55:56Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: ROMs that don't store SRAM]]></title>
			<link rel="alternate" href="https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/48960/#p48960"/>
			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Hope you get it done, nitro!<br />I like playing Hatris, muddygb, megamen, tetris, Super mario land, killer instinct, I don&#039;t really like playing kirby&#039;s dream land 1 because you can&#039;t suck up anyone&#039;s abilities.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Apricorn]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/Apricorn</uri>
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			<updated>2010-12-16T19:13:09Z</updated>
			<id>https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/48960/#p48960</id>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: ROMs that don't store SRAM]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>God loves Kitschy.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Jansaw]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/Jansaw</uri>
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			<updated>2010-12-16T16:59:37Z</updated>
			<id>https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/48951/#p48951</id>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: ROMs that don't store SRAM]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Matt (Kitsch) has already offered to send me one. But thanks anyway. I&#039;ll still send you a PM, though.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[nitro2k01]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/nitro2k01</uri>
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			<updated>2010-12-16T16:08:43Z</updated>
			<id>https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/48945/#p48945</id>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: ROMs that don't store SRAM]]></title>
			<link rel="alternate" href="https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/48944/#p48944"/>
			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>I&#039;ve got a spare EMS 64 cart that&#039;s not being used. I don&#039;t really play with it at all, and I don&#039;t think I&#039;d miss it much. If you want an EMS cart for a pittance please PM me nitro.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[arfink]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/arfink</uri>
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			<updated>2010-12-16T16:06:38Z</updated>
			<id>https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/48944/#p48944</id>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: ROMs that don't store SRAM]]></title>
			<link rel="alternate" href="https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/48927/#p48927"/>
			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>yes i would give $4 or $8</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[ant1]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/ant1</uri>
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			<updated>2010-12-16T09:08:49Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: ROMs that don't store SRAM]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>nitro2k01 wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>BTW, I should add, if someone is willing to donate an EMS USB cart, it&#039;s more likely that I will add features specific to EMS carts to LittleFM.</p></blockquote></div><p>I&#039;m very tempted.</p><p>Here&#039;s an idea: who would be willing to pitch in a few bucks to buy nitro a cart so he can code for it?</p><p>If 10 people are interested, that&#039;s $4 each to support development.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[kineticturtle]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/kineticturtle</uri>
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			<updated>2010-12-16T07:19:50Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: ROMs that don't store SRAM]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Wow, that sounds like a lot of work, nitro!<br />I wish you well in your endeavours, good sir!</p><p>Thanks for the suggestions, everyone, and I look forward to hearing more from LittleFM</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Jansaw]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/Jansaw</uri>
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			<updated>2010-12-16T01:25:30Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: ROMs that don't store SRAM]]></title>
			<link rel="alternate" href="https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/48892/#p48892"/>
			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>BTW, I should add, if someone is willing to donate an EMS USB cart, it&#039;s more likely that I will add features specific to EMS carts to LittleFM. Even a cartridge that is stuck on one page or similar would be interesting. I do have a couple blue EMS carts and a parallel port transferer, but the transferer has gotten pretty shaky the last few years.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[nitro2k01]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/nitro2k01</uri>
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			<updated>2010-12-15T23:48:26Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: ROMs that don't store SRAM]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Hold on there! I do have plans. LittleFM&#039;s &quot;killer feature&quot; is the ability to save songs into flash. However, it can also load songs from a file - just like LSDj&#039;s own manager - but faster and more safely. The goal is to make it a full drop-in replacement for LSDj&#039;s file manager, so it can also save and delete songs. This is something that can be done with an EMS cart, or any other cart, even if the save-to-flash functionality is missing.</p><p>But, there&#039;s more. The EMS cart, just like most others, has 128 kB of RAM, while most games use only 32 kB. Nothing (except for laziness) would stop me from saving a game save as a file, much like a LSDj song. There would be some complications, like the need to patch game ROMs with a little piece of code, but in principle it&#039;s still possible.</p><p>But wait, there&#039;s even more! Order within ten minutes - I sad ten minutes...! Just kidding. But a well hidden secret (I suppose?) is that all EMS cartridges (both old blue and USB ones) have multi-ROM support. This is separate from the &quot;two pages&quot; thing. This means that you could basically fill up the whole ROM area (2*32M) with programs, provided that <br />1) There&#039;s a program to take care of the special bank switching needed. <br />2) RAM sharing is taken care of where applicable.<br />Point 1 is the big problem. There used to be a menu ROM for the old blue cartridges, which worked fine, except that it worked particularly badly with LSDj, which made it fall into obscurity. A main candidate feature for LittleFM, even if it will take some effort, is to implement multi-ROM support for EMS cartridges, that is compatible with LSDj. That way, LFM could offer something unique to EMS users. Additionally, I could very well add extra features, such as the ability to get back to a menu with a choice of games/programs by pressing sel+start+B+A, basically a soft reset feature.</p><p>Now, convince to actually sit down and do it. <img src="https://chipmusic.org/forums/img/smilies/smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="smile" /></p>]]></content>
			<author>
				<name><![CDATA[nitro2k01]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/nitro2k01</uri>
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			<updated>2010-12-15T23:40:05Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: ROMs that don't store SRAM]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>egr is right. It won&#039;t work.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[stargazer]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/stargazer</uri>
			</author>
			<updated>2010-12-15T22:23:50Z</updated>
			<id>https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/48875/#p48875</id>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: ROMs that don't store SRAM]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>ant1 wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>would using the thing nitro2k01 made (i forgot the name) help?</p><p>if i am not mistaken it reprograms the flash cart when you save a song rather than saving it to sram&nbsp; &nbsp;so you won&#039;t have to worry about overwriting the sram</p></blockquote></div><p>I&#039;m pretty sure he&#039;s stated that LittleFM won&#039;t work with 64M carts due to [programmery mumbo jumbo I don&#039;t understand].</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[egr]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/egr</uri>
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			<updated>2010-12-15T21:06:11Z</updated>
			<id>https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/48869/#p48869</id>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: ROMs that don't store SRAM]]></title>
			<link rel="alternate" href="https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/48867/#p48867"/>
			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>would using the thing nitro2k01 made (i forgot the name) help?</p><p>if i am not mistaken it reprograms the flash cart when you save a song rather than saving it to sram&nbsp; &nbsp;so you won&#039;t have to worry about overwriting the sram</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[ant1]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/ant1</uri>
			</author>
			<updated>2010-12-15T20:57:31Z</updated>
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