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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: C64 audio out put options]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>thursdaycustoms wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>I did something similar. No problems so far.</p></blockquote></div><br /><p>Did you build the buffer on perfboard/Vero board? How did you get the 4.5v to the input pin?</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Deeyou]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/Deeyou</uri>
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			<updated>2017-02-07T07:03:03Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: C64 audio out put options]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>shizcake wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>hey<br />This is kind of old, but i&#039;m planning to mod my c64c for use with mssiah. I&#039;d like to protect the sid&#039;s ouputs and inputs.<br />I know, people have successfully installed low-gain&#039;s NESmod, but i can&#039;t shell out 45 bucks + shipping to europe anytime in the near future. So i&#039;m looking for diy alternatives. </p><p>Would a vanilla unity gain buffer along the lines of <a href="http://www.muzique.com/lab/buffers.htm" target="_blank">this</a> (the first opamp buffer) be sufficient to protect the sid? And can i use the same configuration for the audio input?</p><p>any hints would be appreciated!</p></blockquote></div><p>I did something similar. No problems so far.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[thursdaycustoms]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/thursdaycustoms</uri>
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			<updated>2013-03-09T16:41:19Z</updated>
			<id>https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/159121/#p159121</id>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: C64 audio out put options]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>hey<br />This is kind of old, but i&#039;m planning to mod my c64c for use with mssiah. I&#039;d like to protect the sid&#039;s ouputs and inputs.<br />I know, people have successfully installed low-gain&#039;s NESmod, but i can&#039;t shell out 45 bucks + shipping to europe anytime in the near future. So i&#039;m looking for diy alternatives. </p><p>Would a vanilla unity gain buffer along the lines of <a href="http://www.muzique.com/lab/buffers.htm" target="_blank">this</a> (the first opamp buffer) be sufficient to protect the sid? And can i use the same configuration for the audio input?</p><p>any hints would be appreciated!</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[shizcake]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/shizcake</uri>
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			<updated>2013-03-08T18:32:11Z</updated>
			<id>https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/159034/#p159034</id>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: C64 audio out put options]]></title>
			<link rel="alternate" href="https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/82914/#p82914"/>
			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>I also purchased some days ago Commodore 64 (version G, which was primarily for German market with game cartridge), with 1541-II disk drive. It looks like new, SID chip is 8580. But it was without RF TV cable, i found it today in local store. Video out is 8-PIN DIN connector, which is hard to find in local electroshops. In one shop i purchased DIN 5-PIN cable to 4x CINCH, according to this legend <a href="http://old.pinouts.ru/Multimedia/AudioVideoC64_pinout.shtml" target="_blank">http://old.pinouts.ru/Multimedia/AudioV &#133; nout.shtml</a> is AUDIO OUT yellow cinch, but when i plugged that yellow cinch to my hifi system i noticed some hum. I can hear sound, but quality is not very good. Anyone can help me with this?</p><p>BTW, what is AUDIO IN signal?</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[martin_demsky]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/martin_demsky</uri>
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			<updated>2011-11-28T20:33:18Z</updated>
			<id>https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/82914/#p82914</id>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: C64 audio out put options]]></title>
			<link rel="alternate" href="https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/59249/#p59249"/>
			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>this might help for those looking to build a din outputbox <a class="postimg" href="http://radagast.bglug.ca/C64_svideo/c64_av_connector.gif" title="http://radagast.bglug.ca/C64_svideo/c64_av_connector.gif" id="forum_image_29702820"><img src="http://radagast.bglug.ca/C64_svideo/c64_av_connector.gif" /></a></p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[wedanced]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/wedanced</uri>
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			<updated>2011-03-08T11:06:17Z</updated>
			<id>https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/59249/#p59249</id>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: C64 audio out put options]]></title>
			<link rel="alternate" href="https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/59140/#p59140"/>
			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>Smendrick the Magician wrote:</cite><blockquote><p><a href="http://cgi.ebay.com/Bang-Olufsen-1-foot-5-Pin-Din-Plug-2-RCA-Jacks-/270666853480?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&amp;hash=item3f05006c68" target="_blank">http://cgi.ebay.com/Bang-Olufsen-1-foot &#133; 3f05006c68</a><br />Would this work? Also will a cynthcart work without a monitor? Like just a c64 plugged into a mixer</p></blockquote></div><p>No, that won&#039;t work.&nbsp; That&#039;s 5 pin din for old hifi equipment from the 70&#039;s / 80&#039;s.... you need an 8 pin DIN socket which splits to Composite, Y/C (hint, solder this to an SVideo socket for amazing pictures!!) and your audio :-)</p><p>Just a note that C64&#039;s are VERY sensitive to having their cables shorted out.&nbsp; NEVER hotplug a C64 with the power turned on and ALWAYS be very careful that you plug it into a mixer with the power turned off.&nbsp; I&#039;ve blown up 2 SID chips now - first was from the one time I hot plugged it, and the other was using my 8xxx series SID with a valve preamp.&nbsp; Apparently there was some back voltage though the pre when the power was turned on (and that&#039;s an Avalon unit too)</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[cTrix]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/cTrix</uri>
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			<updated>2011-03-07T12:31:52Z</updated>
			<id>https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/59140/#p59140</id>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: C64 audio out put options]]></title>
			<link rel="alternate" href="https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/59028/#p59028"/>
			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://cgi.ebay.com/Bang-Olufsen-1-foot-5-Pin-Din-Plug-2-RCA-Jacks-/270666853480?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&amp;hash=item3f05006c68" target="_blank">http://cgi.ebay.com/Bang-Olufsen-1-foot &#133; 3f05006c68</a><br />Would this work? Also will a cynthcart work without a monitor? Like just a c64 plugged into a mixer</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Smendrick the Magician]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/Smendrick+the+Magician</uri>
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			<updated>2011-03-06T07:34:05Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: C64 audio out put options]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Top notch. Thanks all!</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Filk]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/Filk</uri>
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			<updated>2011-03-06T01:14:50Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: C64 audio out put options]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>the best way is to pick audio from the DIN plug</p><p>soldering is rather simple but I think you an even find solderless plugs in pecialised shops</p><p>for the pin out scheme, follow this diagram <a href="http://pinouts.ru/Multimedia/AudioVideoC64_pinout.shtml" target="_blank">http://pinouts.ru/Multimedia/AudioVideoC64_pinout.shtml</a></p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[goonzy]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/goonzy</uri>
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			<updated>2011-03-05T11:27:37Z</updated>
			<id>https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/58961/#p58961</id>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: C64 audio out put options]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>I have a similar problem, i have a show coming up soon and im wanting to find the best way to plug my c64 up to my mixer to play cynthcart. Is there simply a cord i can buy for this?</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Smendrick the Magician]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/Smendrick+the+Magician</uri>
			</author>
			<updated>2011-03-05T06:05:55Z</updated>
			<id>https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/58947/#p58947</id>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: C64 audio out put options]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>I just came on to ask a question very similar to this. The difference in my case is that I have never done any kind of electronic work in my life so there&#039;s no way I&#039;m going to try soldering anything on my only working C64. So what are the alternatives?</p><p>Mine has Serial, Video and RF ports. Can I use one of these and seperate the video and audio signals?<br />Mines a PAL C64 by the way, if that makes any difference to the available outputs.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Filk]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/Filk</uri>
			</author>
			<updated>2011-03-04T19:45:35Z</updated>
			<id>https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/58904/#p58904</id>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: C64 audio out put options]]></title>
			<link rel="alternate" href="https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/52561/#p52561"/>
			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>couldn&#039;t you just solder to the back of the din plug? or buy a din cable, which is what i suggest.</p>]]></content>
			<author>
				<name><![CDATA[gizmo]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/gizmo</uri>
			</author>
			<updated>2011-01-27T01:58:35Z</updated>
			<id>https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/52561/#p52561</id>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: C64 audio out put options]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>I am walking away from this one.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[akira^8GB]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/akira%5E8GB</uri>
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			<updated>2011-01-26T22:59:40Z</updated>
			<id>https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/52547/#p52547</id>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: C64 audio out put options]]></title>
			<link rel="alternate" href="https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/52542/#p52542"/>
			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>akira^8GB wrote:</cite><blockquote><div class="quotebox"><cite>low-gain wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>&gt;_&lt; i&#039;m just gunna walk away from this one...</p></blockquote></div><p>Would have been useful if you explained why you would not use the easily available pads on the motherboard.</p></blockquote></div><br /><p>because you would have probably just disagreed with my reasons anyways? lulz <img src="https://chipmusic.org/forums/img/smilies/heart.gif" width="15" height="15" alt="heart" />&nbsp; U Akira!</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[low-gain]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/low-gain</uri>
			</author>
			<updated>2011-01-26T22:26:28Z</updated>
			<id>https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/52542/#p52542</id>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: C64 audio out put options]]></title>
			<link rel="alternate" href="https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/52524/#p52524"/>
			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>I think the C64mod circuit protects the SID from voltage spikes and such, that would otherwise kill it, but I&#039;m not sure. I&#039;d be interested in buying one, in that case <img src="https://chipmusic.org/forums/img/smilies/smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="smile" /></p>]]></content>
			<author>
				<name><![CDATA[boomlinde]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/boomlinde</uri>
			</author>
			<updated>2011-01-26T18:06:40Z</updated>
			<id>https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/52524/#p52524</id>
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