Trust me, once you learn ableton, or even logic (but that's a fucking mess as well in a different way) you will realize how much protools slows down your workflow.

I did take a class in Logic, which is much better for electronic music and MIDI.  I still liked Pro Tools better for audio.  I will give Ableton a try (assuming Ableton lite is any indication of what the full program is).  I won't deny that sometimes Pro Tools is frustrating.  I have just used it much more extensively and have seen it at work in a larger scale studio format.

an0va wrote:

THANK YOU

*shrug*  I like it.  I've had a lot of training with it and feel it's capable of a lot most other programs aren't.  What you call convoluted, I call efficient.  And the proprietary madness has gotten better since Avid took over.

Trust me, once you learn ableton, or even logic (but that's a fucking mess as well in a different way) you will realize how much protools slows down your workflow. That being said, working with whatever tool you're most proficient at is def the best way too go.

In regards to good eq work, I figure i'll just mention 2 things: mix down with your ear, not your eyes (don't rely too heavily on peak indicators and visual eqs) AND listen to your mixes on as many varied types of speakers as possible (from tinny shits like earbuds to car subs).

danimal cannon wrote:

Protools is awful.  Proprietary madness and an extremely convoluted workflow.  But along with 5 other programs (which are just as good or better), it'll get the job done if you know what you're doing.

THANK YOU

*shrug*  I like it.  I've had a lot of training with it and feel it's capable of a lot most other programs aren't.  What you call convoluted, I call efficient.  And the proprietary madness has gotten better since Avid took over.

Krubbz wrote:

I, personally, use Pro Tools for recording and mixing.  It's not free, but it's probably the best out there.  .

Protools is awful.  Proprietary madness and an extremely convoluted workflow.  But along with 5 other programs (which are just as good or better), it'll get the job done if you know what you're doing.

THANK YOU

I really recommend rolling off your sub-bass (stuff below 90Hz) as that usually will just muddy a track and cut through other more important frequencies. This is especially important on bass guitars or other bass instruments where you want to hear details in the sound (for a bass guitar you want to be able to hear the performance of it, not just a deep wub wub wub of bass frequencies).

THIS. A high pass filter will do the job nicely. If you find that it's rolling off too much of the bass, try using a notch filter instead to cut out a more narrow frequency that's muddying the mix. You can use frequency analyzer while auditioning the track to help you narrow down the frequency you're looking to cut or just sweep back and forth through the lower freqs until the freq you're looking to eliminate disappears. I sometimes find it necessary to do this when I have a high freq that's bothering me but don't necessarily want to roll off all or most of the highs with a low pass.

Sometimes you'll want to add a sub-bass to your song, but be very careful to keep this from taking over your whole track.

i just want to recommend oZone as an EQ/Mastering VST. shits beautiful.

agreed!

Sometimes you'll want to add a sub-bass to your song, but be very careful to keep this from taking over your whole track.

I, personally, use Pro Tools for recording and mixing.  It's not free, but it's probably the best out there.  .

Protools is awful.  Proprietary madness and an extremely convoluted workflow.  But along with 5 other programs (which are just as good or better), it'll get the job done if you know what you're doing.

Once you find a way to EQ, I'm thinking, most likely, you're getting a buildup in the low-mid frequencies which are the "boxy" sounding frequencies around 400-600Hz.  Rather than EQ the whole track, EQ each track individually, taking 4-6 decibels out of this frequency range on each.  Since most instruments fall into this frequency range, there can be a big buildup of these and it can make the mix sound muffled and boxy.  If you do this and it still sounds too bassy, subtract some 60-80Hz.  If you are going to EQ your master track, this is usually done after the fact and you usually will boost the low and high end by a tiny bit.  You may also try subtracting a tiny bit of 1kHz from the piano track and adding a tiny bit of 1kHz to the bass track to give the piano a little less "honky" sound and gives the bass a little more presence.  I know this is nearly a month later, but hopefully this will help at least in the future.

By nature, all EQ effects the quality of your source, because you want them to; the matter is how the EQ effects your sound. It is helpful to experiment with many EQs to learn how they color sound and then choose the best for a job.

Thanks for the advice, I'll do that.

Well you see here is my problem. Cntrl-P doesn't do anything; the program simply states: "Nothing to paste". My plugin directory is correct, and it works within FLstudio (which uses the same plugins from the same directory) so I am struggling to see what the issue is here. Where do i find this effects list? I can't seem to locate it. Maybe the interface is different from your version, but it is far from obvious in 2.0 where the effects list is meant to be situated, if there is one at all?

I tried loading the vst's like one would samples or xnri packs but that didn;t work either. I've been stuck on this subject for over a year now...

Anyways, thanks for all the help thus far hey, its appreciated

By nature, all EQ effects the quality of your source, because you want them to; the matter is how the EQ effects your sound. It is helpful to experiment with many EQs to learn how they color sound and then choose the best for a job.