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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Volume Levels?]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Just to add my 2p.&nbsp; Assuming you&#039;re happy with the actual mix, you probably need to do some basic mastering.&nbsp; I&#039;d suggest you start with some EQ to get rid of any harshness. Or even better, a multiband comp.&nbsp; Then go into a limiter (or even better, just use a multiband limiter)</p><p>e.g. Waves C4 into L1 </p><p>or L3 Multimaximizer)</p><p>or iZotope Ozone - dial in one of the presets till it sounds good - tweak as necessary.</p><p>I would also suggest TT Dynamic Range Meter to keep an eye on the dynamic range and X-ISM to make sure you don&#039;t have any intersample clips (although Ozone is supposed to warn of this)</p><p>Make sure you experiement lots and listen to reference material often <img src="https://chipmusic.org/forums/img/smilies/cool.png" width="15" height="15" alt="cool" /></p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[BitPop]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/BitPop</uri>
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			<updated>2011-08-23T09:37:15Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Volume Levels?]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Compress and then limit on a master fader.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Krubbz]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/Krubbz</uri>
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			<updated>2011-08-06T10:01:37Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Volume Levels?]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>record in 24 bit and super low becomes super high anyway</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[ant1]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/ant1</uri>
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			<updated>2011-08-03T05:33:21Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Volume Levels?]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>&quot;super low&quot; is just as bad.<br />you have a limited bit depth, make the most of it</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[godinpants]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/godinpants</uri>
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			<updated>2011-08-03T05:28:43Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Volume Levels?]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>and kids thats why we record everything at super low volumes...when almost all peaks are over 0db it sounds like garbage</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[shotgun breakdown]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/shotgun+breakdown</uri>
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			<updated>2011-07-09T22:38:29Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Volume Levels?]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>egr wrote:</cite><blockquote><div class="quotebox"><cite>Frostbyte wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>You can. What does that do though? Haha, I&#039;ve never used it.</p></blockquote></div><p>Normalize just amplifies the sound until the highest peak hits 0dB (or whatever level you set it for).&nbsp; If you already have peaks that high in your recording it won&#039;t do anything at all.</p></blockquote></div><p>It takes the highest peak and raises the volume of the track.<br />The highest peak becomes 0dB</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[CMDR]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/CMDR</uri>
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			<updated>2011-06-30T21:11:19Z</updated>
			<id>https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/71803/#p71803</id>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Volume Levels?]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>An easy thing to do if you have a bunch of finished, mixed down tracks (say for an EP or something) is to import all the tracks into your DAW in one project/file/whatever so you can listen to them all side-by-side and even out the volume between them by ear.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[roboctopus]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/roboctopus</uri>
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			<updated>2011-06-29T15:03:47Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Volume Levels?]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>egr wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>The best thing you can do is just adjust all the track volumes by ear.&nbsp; That&#039;s what you&#039;re actually going for... for all the tracks to be perceived by a human ear as having the same volume.&nbsp; That is not the same thing as having identical peak heights in a waveform.</p></blockquote></div><p>Thank you! Someone finally mentioned psycho-acoustics. Higher pitched sounds usually sound louder than lower pitched sounds, even if your VU meter says they&#039;re the same. In my experience certain timbres also seem to sound louder, even at much lower volumes. They seem to cut through the mix. Masking is another weird phenomenon you&#039;ll experience in mixing. Cymbals and other sizzley, white-noisey sounds can tend to mask certain lower pitched instruments and frequencies if they&#039;re up too loud in the mix.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Subterrestrial]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/Subterrestrial</uri>
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			<updated>2011-06-28T20:30:02Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Volume Levels?]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Oh okay. That&#039;s cool. And going through them myself does make sense. I&#039;ll do that too. Thanks egr!</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Frostbyte]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/Frostbyte</uri>
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			<updated>2011-06-28T19:11:05Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Volume Levels?]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>Frostbyte wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>So it&#039;s kind of like a compressor?</p></blockquote></div><p>Well, a compressor actually changes the relationship of the peaks in the waveform.&nbsp; Normalize does not, it just raises everything together equally.&nbsp; It&#039;s just a &quot;volume knob&quot; really.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[egr]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/egr</uri>
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			<updated>2011-06-28T19:10:08Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Volume Levels?]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>The best thing you can do is just adjust all the track volumes by ear.&nbsp; That&#039;s what you&#039;re actually going for... for all the tracks to be perceived by a human ear as having the same volume.&nbsp; That is not the same thing as having identical peak heights in a waveform.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[egr]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/egr</uri>
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			<updated>2011-06-28T19:08:38Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Volume Levels?]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>So it&#039;s kind of like a compressor?</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Frostbyte]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/Frostbyte</uri>
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			<updated>2011-06-28T19:07:09Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Volume Levels?]]></title>
			<link rel="alternate" href="https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/71507/#p71507"/>
			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>Frostbyte wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>You can. What does that do though? Haha, I&#039;ve never used it.</p></blockquote></div><p>Normalize just amplifies the sound until the highest peak hits 0dB (or whatever level you set it for).&nbsp; If you already have peaks that high in your recording it won&#039;t do anything at all.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[egr]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/egr</uri>
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			<updated>2011-06-28T19:05:28Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Volume Levels?]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>You can. What does that do though? Haha, I&#039;ve never used it.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Frostbyte]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/Frostbyte</uri>
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			<updated>2011-06-28T18:58:14Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Volume Levels?]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>you can &#039;normalize&#039; in audacity, right?&nbsp; i&#039;ve got a super old version on my computer...&nbsp; you can in it at least.&nbsp; &nbsp;i&#039;d assume the newer versions as well, probably with more parameters.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[kitsch]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/kitsch</uri>
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			<updated>2011-06-28T18:15:15Z</updated>
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