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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Can any savvy engineers help me out?]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Now THAT is a great idea.&nbsp; I very much admire Nex&#039;s work.&nbsp; And I could get some good use out of an ArduinoBoy.&nbsp; I&#039;ll PM him about it.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Krubbz]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/Krubbz</uri>
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			<updated>2011-07-23T20:38:06Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Can any savvy engineers help me out?]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>I think you might be able to get an ArduinoBoy kit from NEX.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[SurfaceDragon]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/SurfaceDragon</uri>
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			<updated>2011-07-23T20:14:12Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Can any savvy engineers help me out?]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>This APC (look at me, I&#039;m already using the lingo) looks awesome!&nbsp; I&#039;m totally making this.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Krubbz]]></name>
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			<updated>2011-07-23T18:58:15Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Can any savvy engineers help me out?]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Very good to know.&nbsp; Reading about the midibox projects, I think you&#039;re right.&nbsp; It does seem a bit over my head at this point.&nbsp; I am definitely interested in learning theory.&nbsp; That&#039;s what I&#039;m most concerned about learning so that I can troubleshoot future projects better and hopefully learn how to read a schematic.&nbsp; I will check out your suggestions.&nbsp; Thank you!</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Krubbz]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/Krubbz</uri>
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			<updated>2011-07-23T18:50:21Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Can any savvy engineers help me out?]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>the midibox stuff, imho, is a little thick for a beginner to undertake.&nbsp; well...&nbsp; you could build the thing and get it working, but there is a lot of stuff involved in the build which requires more than just a soldering gun.&nbsp; and, its advanced enough you may not understand what it is you are doing, and why, because there is just so much to do in a project like that</p><p>-- of course you can get the mU pre-programmed and stuff like that and save on some of the work... --</p><p>circuit bending is a nice place to learn how to assemble and solder and things, but a bad place to learn theory (if you care about that bit).</p><p>(i was going to suggest one of the curious inventor &#039;Voice of Saturn&quot; modules here, but it appears they are downsizing and have discontinued them <img src="https://chipmusic.org/forums/img/smilies/hmm.png" width="15" height="15" alt="hmm" /> ...&nbsp; although they are based on a classic design...&nbsp; which reminds me...</p><p>google &quot;atari punk console&quot;.&nbsp; it uses a great IC to learn about <img src="https://chipmusic.org/forums/img/smilies/wink.png" width="15" height="15" alt="wink" /></p><p>i honestly do think the midibox stuff is a little heavy for a beginning...&nbsp; same with the x0x or another big device which requires tuning or programming of some sort...</p><p>if i had everything to do over again, i would have skipped circuit bending as a learning tool and learned solely on building modular synthesizers (which came after CB for me).&nbsp; avoid building VCOs or things you need to tune at first, and there are tons of easy modular kits out there.&nbsp; and, each one goes towards your modular system <img src="https://chipmusic.org/forums/img/smilies/wink.png" width="15" height="15" alt="wink" /></p><p>there are plenty out there, i&#039;d suggest eurorack format because its becoming the new standard it seems...</p><p>/just my 2 cents/</p><p>edit :&nbsp; also, curiousinventor.com and sparkfun.com have some GREAT tutorials on beginning soldering (including surface mount work) and basic electronics theory.&nbsp; should help...</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[kitsch]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/kitsch</uri>
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			<updated>2011-07-23T13:46:27Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Thanks a lot, man!&nbsp; That does help.&nbsp; I&#039;ve researched circuit bending but haven&#039;t really tried it yet.&nbsp; I think I may try it and will definitely pick up a multimeter and learn how to use it.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Krubbz]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/Krubbz</uri>
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			<updated>2011-07-23T10:53:35Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>My last post may contain a bunch of stuff you already and it might not help you that much.</p><p>Most of the things I know about electronics I&#039;ve learned directly for other people and from experience.</p><p>So I can&#039;t really point you towards any good books or guides.</p><p>They do exist and google search is a useful tool.</p><p>But I would really like to help, if you ever need advice or help on a specific project or problem just send me a PM and I&#039;ll do whatever I can to help.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[SurfaceDragon]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/SurfaceDragon</uri>
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			<updated>2011-07-23T10:31:39Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Can any savvy engineers help me out?]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>The cheapest starting place I can think of is circuit-bending.</p><p>There are tons of tutorials online about circuit-bending.</p><p>Circuit-bending is mostly lots of its trial and error so you don&#039;t need to know much about electronics other than how to avoid electrocuting yourself to death.</p><p>I would recommend going to your local thrift store for battery operated toys.</p><p>Toys that make noise like toy keyboards, megaphones, furbys, and baby toys are a good place to start.</p><p>Then all you need is a few tools and basic electronic components like wire, alligator clips, solder, and a soldering iron.</p><p>You can salvage most of the other electronic components like potentiometer, resistors, capacitors, LEDs, and switches from broken electronics.</p><p>You might also want to learn how to use a multimeter, you can learn this online as well.</p><p>If you get good a circuit bending you can progress onto guitar effects pedal modding.</p><p>But you can also modify other electronics as your skills improve.</p><p>I&#039;ve added LEDs to all my PS3 controller&#039;s PS buttons and I&#039;ve modified pretty much every guitar effects pedal and guitar amplifier that I&#039;ve ever owned.</p><p>Tube amp modding, building, or restoration would probably be the next step or you can just get creative and do whatever project you feel most passionately about.</p><p>Guitar amps are dangerous and they can electrocute you to death even when there not plugged, dangerous amounts of current can stay stored in their large capacitors so I would stay away from guitar amps until you learn more about them.</p><p>I took a digital electronics class in high school and I&#039;ve always been fascinated with electronics since I was kid.</p><p>Never stop researching, learning, improving your skills, and always be creative.</p><p>Good Luck!</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[SurfaceDragon]]></name>
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			<updated>2011-07-23T10:15:28Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>These look pretty cool.&nbsp; I&#039;ll have to look more into which ones may be doable.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Krubbz]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/Krubbz</uri>
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			<updated>2011-07-23T09:42:57Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Can any savvy engineers help me out?]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Either or I think. They are midi synth based on old computer chips, sequencers all that good stuff.</p><p><a href="http://www.ucapps.de/" target="_blank">http://www.ucapps.de/</a></p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Lazerbeat]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/Lazerbeat</uri>
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			<updated>2011-07-23T09:18:56Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>No, I haven&#039;t.&nbsp; What are they most commonly used for?&nbsp; Do they come in kits or have to be built from scratch?</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Krubbz]]></name>
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			<updated>2011-07-23T09:11:27Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Can any savvy engineers help me out?]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Have you tried the midibox projects?</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Lazerbeat]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/Lazerbeat</uri>
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			<updated>2011-07-23T09:05:23Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Anyone have the name of any books or guides that could get me started building my own audio gear and modding old systems?&nbsp; I can do basic mods like prosound, backlight, pitch mods, and other things that are laid out for me in tutorials.&nbsp; I want to step up my skill to include greater understanding of electronics and the inner workings of audio gear.&nbsp; Kits may be helpful as well.&nbsp; I&#039;m a beginner but I want to be challenged.&nbsp; Don&#039;t go way over my head though.&nbsp; Thanks so much.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Krubbz]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/Krubbz</uri>
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			<updated>2011-07-23T08:55:51Z</updated>
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