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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Is it possible to know the SID version (6581/8582) by serial number?]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Old brown breadbox type with black-ish keys C64: always 6581</p><p>White &quot;modern&quot; style&nbsp; C64C: depends, you have to look underneath, there&#039;s a ventilation grill at the front of the machine, if you see the motherboard through it, it&#039;s an old type motherboard, which means it has a 6581. If you don&#039; see the motherboard, it has an 8580. The newer motherboard has&nbsp; smaller footprint and this is why you can&#039;t see it through the grill.</p><p>Old brown style but with cream keys C64G (you probably won&#039;t find this in Canada): has 8580</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[akira^8GB]]></name>
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			<updated>2011-11-16T15:26:18Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Is it possible to know the SID version (6581/8582) by serial number?]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Whoa, Thanks!</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2011-11-16T14:28:12Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Is it possible to know the SID version (6581/8582) by serial number?]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>The general rule is breadbox = 6581, C64c = 8580, although this is not always true, because there was probably a transition period where Commodore put one type of mo-bo in the other type of case. And sometimes some people probably swapped the mo-bos for some reason. I was going to say that you could look in through the cassette port and determine where the SID chip is located. (Different SID chip = different location.) But then I found this:<br /><a href="http://ilesj.wordpress.com/2010/07/01/how-to-identify-c64-and-sid-model/" target="_blank">http://ilesj.wordpress.com/2010/07/01/h &#133; sid-model/</a><br />There are some really easy tell-tale sign for each mo-bo.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[nitro2k01]]></name>
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			<updated>2011-11-16T08:01:36Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Is it possible to know the SID version (6581/8582) by serial number?]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>oh ok ! check for an old model then ! (good old breadbox)</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2011-11-15T23:29:21Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Is it possible to know the SID version (6581/8582) by serial number?]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Non je cherche une 6581 parce que j&#039;ai déjà une 8580!!!</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2011-11-15T21:15:44Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Is it possible to know the SID version (6581/8582) by serial number?]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Was it an old breadbox or a C64C ?<br />Because if this is a C64C, there is chances that it got a 8580 in it ! (I&#039;m sure there is another way to know it !)<br />Au pire du pireeee, j&#039;ai un C64C avec une 8580 qui traine dans ma chambre si jamais tu veux dealer sa dude ! <img src="https://chipmusic.org/forums/img/smilies/tongue.png" width="15" height="15" alt="tongue" /></p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[XyNo]]></name>
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			<updated>2011-11-15T21:07:33Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Is it possible to know the SID version (6581/8582) by serial number?]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>There is a C64 in the &quot;pawn/antique shop&quot; near my appartment. I noted the serial number: No. SC 232 346.<br />So, is it possible to know which kind of SID (6581/8582) is inside the computer by looking at the serial number? (Or by looking at the computer itself?</p><p>Thank you C64 headz,</p><p>Simon</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2011-11-15T20:43:49Z</updated>
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