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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: New Apple II Digital Music Synth!]]></title>
			<link rel="alternate" href="https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/16599/#p16599"/>
			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>MJ has sent me a tutorial and files on how to make your own sounds on DMS. If you already have the DMS, email me and I&#039;ll send you a 2nd floppy disk with the editing software. I just need $5 to cover the cost of the disk plus shipping &amp; Handling.</p><p>I posted a new thread about the actual editing functions! <img src="https://chipmusic.org/forums/img/smilies/smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="smile" /></p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[8bitweapon]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/8bitweapon</uri>
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			<updated>2010-03-25T16:29:36Z</updated>
			<id>https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/16599/#p16599</id>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: New Apple II Digital Music Synth!]]></title>
			<link rel="alternate" href="https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/16310/#p16310"/>
			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Here are listings on ebay for Apple IICs to buy:<br /><a href="http://shop.ebay.com/?_from=R40&amp;_trksid=p3907.m38.l1313&amp;_nkw=apple+IIc&amp;_sacat=See-All-Categories" target="_blank">http://shop.ebay.com/?_from=R40&amp;_tr &#133; Categories</a></p><p>Here are listings on ebay for Apple IIEs to buy:<br /><a href="http://shop.ebay.com/?_from=R40&amp;_trksid=p3907.m38.l1313&amp;_nkw=apple+IIe&amp;_sacat=See-All-Categories" target="_blank">http://shop.ebay.com/?_from=R40&amp;_tr &#133; Categories</a></p>]]></content>
			<author>
				<name><![CDATA[8bitweapon]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/8bitweapon</uri>
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			<updated>2010-03-23T22:17:40Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: New Apple II Digital Music Synth!]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>woo</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[lotekindustries]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/lotekindustries</uri>
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			<updated>2010-03-23T05:45:14Z</updated>
			<id>https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/16239/#p16239</id>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: New Apple II Digital Music Synth!]]></title>
			<link rel="alternate" href="https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/16065/#p16065"/>
			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>MJ Mahon says the instructions for making your own sounds is almost complete!</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[8bitweapon]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/8bitweapon</uri>
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			<updated>2010-03-22T02:48:13Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: New Apple II Digital Music Synth!]]></title>
			<link rel="alternate" href="https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/10168/#p10168"/>
			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Ahh, so this is Mike Mahon? I believe I have actually met him, though I&#039;m not sure he remembers me...<br />As for the glitch: that&#039;s not exactly true. It&#039;s just that there is a speaker tied to a memory register, and if you cycle that register fast enough you get crunchy 1 bit sounds.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[arfink]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/arfink</uri>
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			<updated>2010-02-10T20:17:35Z</updated>
			<id>https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/10168/#p10168</id>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: New Apple II Digital Music Synth!]]></title>
			<link rel="alternate" href="https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/10124/#p10124"/>
			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Mahon is a legend.&nbsp; That Cratesynth he built was really cool.&nbsp; Here&#039;s his webpage: <a href="http://home.comcast.net/~mjmahon/" target="_blank">http://home.comcast.net/~mjmahon/</a>&nbsp; It&#039;s got some great A2 stuff on it as well as some info on his sound editor and RTSynth.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[athleos]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/athleos</uri>
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			<updated>2010-02-10T16:03:08Z</updated>
			<id>https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/10124/#p10124</id>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: New Apple II Digital Music Synth!]]></title>
			<link rel="alternate" href="https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/10119/#p10119"/>
			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Btw, I dont know if you all are aware, but the Apple II doesn&#039;t have a sound chip! Apple Exploits a glitch on the board that creates a tonal buzz. This software takes the glitch 1 step further by playing 1 bit samples though the glitch in pitch.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[8bitweapon]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/8bitweapon</uri>
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			<updated>2010-02-10T15:43:46Z</updated>
			<id>https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/10119/#p10119</id>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: New Apple II Digital Music Synth!]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Ahh <img src="https://chipmusic.org/forums/img/smilies/smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="smile" />... anyways sounds cool. Good work...</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Tinctu]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/Tinctu</uri>
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			<updated>2010-02-10T13:36:44Z</updated>
			<id>https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/10111/#p10111</id>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: New Apple II Digital Music Synth!]]></title>
			<link rel="alternate" href="https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/10092/#p10092"/>
			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>Tinctu wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Sounds good. And A2GS soundchip was amazing... Like Gravis on PC...</p></blockquote></div><p>This software doesn&#039;t use the Apple IIGS&#039;s Ensoniq wavetable synthesizer. This is software for legacy Apple II</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[akira^8GB]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/akira%5E8GB</uri>
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			<updated>2010-02-10T12:16:37Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: New Apple II Digital Music Synth!]]></title>
			<link rel="alternate" href="https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/10071/#p10071"/>
			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Sounds good. And A2GS soundchip was amazing... Like Gravis on PC...</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Tinctu]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/Tinctu</uri>
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			<updated>2010-02-10T07:50:26Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: New Apple II Digital Music Synth!]]></title>
			<link rel="alternate" href="https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/10065/#p10065"/>
			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>arfink wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>2. Is it running on DOS 3.3 or Prodos 8? If Prodos 8 then that&#039;s awesome because I can put it on my hard drive.</p></blockquote></div><p>&quot;Yes, it&#039;s ProDOS, and can be installed on a hard drive--I have it installed on mine!&quot;</p><div class="quotebox"><cite>arfink wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>3. If I, say, am a fairly skilled Apple II user and wanted to hack sounds in... would information on how to do this ever be provided even if no tutorial is ever written? I honestly don&#039;t care how hard it is, knowing me I&#039;d try it just because, but I&#039;d need technical info probably.</p></blockquote></div><p>&quot;For a fairly skilled Apple II user, it is certainly possble to create new voices.</p><p>I can provide a description of the voice data structures and a few Applesoft programs<br />that will help in transforming a sampled sound into a usable voice.&nbsp; It will take me<br />a week or so to get the &quot;tutorial&quot; together to make this more likely.&nbsp; ;-)</p><p>It&#039;s a moderately steep learning curve with some trial and error, but it can certainly<br />be done.&nbsp; ;-)&quot;</p>]]></content>
			<author>
				<name><![CDATA[8bitweapon]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/8bitweapon</uri>
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			<updated>2010-02-10T07:35:03Z</updated>
			<id>https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/10065/#p10065</id>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: New Apple II Digital Music Synth!]]></title>
			<link rel="alternate" href="https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/10038/#p10038"/>
			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>HI arfink - Sure drives are $20, but shipping is another $10+ minimum. Our software is $19.95 with shipping included! <img src="https://chipmusic.org/forums/img/smilies/wink.png" width="15" height="15" alt="wink" /></p><p>I will ask Mike (our programmer) your questions. </p><p>He made a version of this under the name rtsynth. Most of the same code, but this one is streamlined for live performance. You no longer need a monitor and the software boots up to a live playable mode. On rtsynth, you had to boot it up and then load the voice packs then run the program. Lots of commands to do that require a monitor. <img src="https://chipmusic.org/forums/img/smilies/smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="smile" /></p><p>The disk is not copy protected, I do know that much.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[8bitweapon]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/8bitweapon</uri>
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			<updated>2010-02-10T02:47:50Z</updated>
			<id>https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/10038/#p10038</id>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: New Apple II Digital Music Synth!]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>8bitweapon wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Besides, presets never hurt anyone! <img src="https://chipmusic.org/forums/img/smilies/wink.png" width="15" height="15" alt="wink" /></p></blockquote></div><p>Presets have dealt a whole lot of damage to electronic music ;p<br />Thanks for the explanation.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[akira^8GB]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/akira%5E8GB</uri>
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			<updated>2010-02-10T01:55:49Z</updated>
			<id>https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/10033/#p10033</id>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: New Apple II Digital Music Synth!]]></title>
			<link rel="alternate" href="https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/10030/#p10030"/>
			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Hmm, this looks alot like other A2 sound software I have seen, but with a somewhat cleaned up interface. Just out of curiosity, who did the software design for you? Good work on this, and if you ever decide to make it cheaper I&#039;ll be happy to play with it and review it on my Apple IIgs. For that price I could get me another 3.5&quot; floppy drive. Being a college student means I spend 90% of my time broke. <img src="https://chipmusic.org/forums/img/smilies/smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="smile" /></p><p>Oh, and if I was ever going to buy this, there would be a couple of things I&#039;d like to know, such as:<br />1. Is it copy protected? 5.25 floppies die easily, so it better not be.<br />2. Is it running on DOS 3.3 or Prodos 8? If Prodos 8 then that&#039;s awesome because I can put it on my hard drive.<br />3. If I, say, am a fairly skilled Apple II user and wanted to hack sounds in... would information on how to do this ever be provided even if no tutorial is ever written? I honestly don&#039;t care how hard it is, knowing me I&#039;d try it just because, but I&#039;d need technical info probably. <br />4. Can I get the source code? <img src="https://chipmusic.org/forums/img/smilies/smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="smile" /> Long shot, I know.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[arfink]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/arfink</uri>
			</author>
			<updated>2010-02-10T01:37:12Z</updated>
			<id>https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/10030/#p10030</id>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: New Apple II Digital Music Synth!]]></title>
			<link rel="alternate" href="https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/10004/#p10004"/>
			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>akira^8GB wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Can we change the sounds? No offense, but the default selection sounds lame and it would be much more rewarding to be able to use yoru own stuff.<br />More tools for the II should be made!</p></blockquote></div><p>We discussed this option with our programmer many times:</p><p>&quot;This would work fine for percussive (play-only) sounds, but tonal voices are<br />quite different--SOUND.EDITOR can be used to &quot;prep&quot; a .wav sample sound,<br />but a lot of post-processing is required to create a voice file.</p><p>There are a lot of restrictions on what can be a voice and how it can be created.<br />For example, the pitch of a voice cannot be variable during a &quot;note&quot;, or at least<br />it won&#039;t be played back as variable.</p><p>Currently, my tools do not permit &quot;previewing&quot; a voice during creation, nor do<br />they permit interactive &quot;tweaks&quot;, so the process is pretty cumbersome and<br />prone to disappointment, with frequent need to repeat 100 steps with a slight<br />change to see if it will fix an audible problem...</p><p>I don&#039;t find it particularly pleasurable or easy.&nbsp; ;-(&quot;</p><p>The process is too hard for people to make their own samples for this software. Besides, presets never hurt anyone! <img src="https://chipmusic.org/forums/img/smilies/wink.png" width="15" height="15" alt="wink" /></p>]]></content>
			<author>
				<name><![CDATA[8bitweapon]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/8bitweapon</uri>
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			<updated>2010-02-09T22:56:56Z</updated>
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