<?xml version="1.0" encoding="utf-8"?>
<feed xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom">
	<title type="html"><![CDATA[ChipMusic.org - top loader problems]]></title>
	<link rel="self" href="https://chipmusic.org:80/forums/feed/atom/topic/6778/"/>
	<updated>2012-04-20T19:49:12Z</updated>
	<generator>PunBB</generator>
	<id>https://chipmusic.org/forums/topic/6778/top-loader-problems/</id>
		<entry>
			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: top loader problems]]></title>
			<link rel="alternate" href="https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/101538/#p101538"/>
			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.raphnet.net/electronique/nes_mod/nes_mod_en.php#supply" target="_blank">http://www.raphnet.net/electronique/nes &#133; php#supply</a><br />this is an old link but this fellow says the dc regulator in the nes is good up to 12V that you can even disregard the polarity. I say its time to bust out the multimeter and get to the bottom of it.</p>]]></content>
			<author>
				<name><![CDATA[zerolanding]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/zerolanding</uri>
			</author>
			<updated>2012-04-20T19:49:12Z</updated>
			<id>https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/101538/#p101538</id>
		</entry>
		<entry>
			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: top loader problems]]></title>
			<link rel="alternate" href="https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/101515/#p101515"/>
			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>i did some more research.<br />according to multiple forum posts (i know, 100% reliable, right? ;D)<br />that NES, SNES, and SEGA genesis all use a 9v psu. nes/snes are identical,<br />and the only difference between them and sega is the adapter that<br />connects to the console (a little bigger diameter). that is for the genesis 1.<br />the 2 (and maybe 3) has a different style connector.</p>]]></content>
			<author>
				<name><![CDATA[xero]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/xero</uri>
			</author>
			<updated>2012-04-20T17:32:28Z</updated>
			<id>https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/101515/#p101515</id>
		</entry>
		<entry>
			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: top loader problems]]></title>
			<link rel="alternate" href="https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/101500/#p101500"/>
			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Hmm, my snes said 10v on it, maybe different revisions</p>]]></content>
			<author>
				<name><![CDATA[e.s.c.]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/e.s.c.</uri>
			</author>
			<updated>2012-04-20T15:52:36Z</updated>
			<id>https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/101500/#p101500</id>
		</entry>
		<entry>
			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: top loader problems]]></title>
			<link rel="alternate" href="https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/101497/#p101497"/>
			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>e.s.c. wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Snes and nes use different voltages from what I remember... think its 10v for snes</p></blockquote></div><p>just googled it, and they seems like the same volts to me.<br />i&#039;ve been using them that way since i was a kid.</p><p>NES:<br />Input: AC 120V 60Hz<br />Output: DC 9V 850mA, made for use in North America (US, Canada, etc.).&nbsp; </p><p>SNES:<br />input: AC 120V 60Hz<br />output: DC 9V 850mA, made for use in North America (US, Canada, etc.).</p>]]></content>
			<author>
				<name><![CDATA[xero]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/xero</uri>
			</author>
			<updated>2012-04-20T15:30:17Z</updated>
			<id>https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/101497/#p101497</id>
		</entry>
		<entry>
			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: top loader problems]]></title>
			<link rel="alternate" href="https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/101496/#p101496"/>
			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Snes and nes use different voltages from what I remember... think its 10v for snes</p>]]></content>
			<author>
				<name><![CDATA[e.s.c.]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/e.s.c.</uri>
			</author>
			<updated>2012-04-20T15:24:32Z</updated>
			<id>https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/101496/#p101496</id>
		</entry>
		<entry>
			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: top loader problems]]></title>
			<link rel="alternate" href="https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/101494/#p101494"/>
			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>ne7 wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>it could be the voltage regulator has gone bad, try replacing that - or (and I&#039;m not sure as only have original NES + Famicom&#039;s here) it could be an internal fuse has blown. before you do anything tho = try an alternative correctly rated PSU on it just in case thats where your problem is. hope that helps! \o_</p></blockquote></div><p>thanx for the good suggestions. fuse is a real possibility. </p><p>as for the psu, i use the same one for my NES + SNES. i just switch the cable. and my SNES is still working like a champ.</p>]]></content>
			<author>
				<name><![CDATA[xero]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/xero</uri>
			</author>
			<updated>2012-04-20T15:16:17Z</updated>
			<id>https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/101494/#p101494</id>
		</entry>
		<entry>
			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: top loader problems]]></title>
			<link rel="alternate" href="https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/101446/#p101446"/>
			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>it could be the voltage regulator has gone bad, try replacing that - or (and I&#039;m not sure as only have original NES + Famicom&#039;s here) it could be an internal fuse has blown. before you do anything tho = try an alternative correctly rated PSU on it just in case thats where your problem is. hope that helps! \o_</p>]]></content>
			<author>
				<name><![CDATA[ne7]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/ne7</uri>
			</author>
			<updated>2012-04-20T08:32:06Z</updated>
			<id>https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/101446/#p101446</id>
		</entry>
		<entry>
			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: top loader problems]]></title>
			<link rel="alternate" href="https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/101104/#p101104"/>
			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>thanx for the info kitsch. i now see the drop down list you can only order them for the DMG. i just thought the instructions were not up yet. sorry for the confusion.</p><p>yeah, it happened all at once. it literally worked the day before perfectly. then nothing the next day. i think im going to take it appart this weekend and see what&#039;s what inside. perhaps i can gain some insite that way. [ though that didnt work w/ the KP3 <img src="https://chipmusic.org/forums/img/smilies/sad.png" width="15" height="15" alt="sad" /> ] </p><p>i havent checked yet, but i think the top loader uses a security bit not regular screw like the NES1 did.<br />if so, it that the <a href="http://kitsch.bigcartel.com/product/security-bits" target="_blank">4.5mm bit on your site</a> kitsch? </p><p>thanx</p>]]></content>
			<author>
				<name><![CDATA[xero]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/xero</uri>
			</author>
			<updated>2012-04-18T14:34:35Z</updated>
			<id>https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/101104/#p101104</id>
		</entry>
		<entry>
			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: top loader problems]]></title>
			<link rel="alternate" href="https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/101100/#p101100"/>
			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>i don&#039;t have a cap kit for the nes ready yet, sorry.&nbsp; haven&#039;t even started doing them for top loaders...</p><p>caps generally have a ~15 year life span.&nbsp; not sure when that unit was made exactly...</p><p>i sort of doubt its that though.&nbsp; if a failing cap actually affected the console in a noticeable way, it&#039;d be a gradual change i&#039;d think (caps leak, but slowly most the time).&nbsp; if it was a sudden change, and it was the fault of a cap, it could has exploded but i think you&#039;d know that.&nbsp; but, still, even if the cap completely failed, the likeliness of it killing the system is slight unless it failed in a way it shorted out the console...</p><p>not really sure about this one.&nbsp; shake the console, do you hear anything loose?</p>]]></content>
			<author>
				<name><![CDATA[kitsch]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/kitsch</uri>
			</author>
			<updated>2012-04-18T14:05:17Z</updated>
			<id>https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/101100/#p101100</id>
		</entry>
		<entry>
			<title type="html"><![CDATA[top loader problems]]></title>
			<link rel="alternate" href="https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/101089/#p101089"/>
			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>hey,<br />i have an NES toploaded. i got it on ebay about 7 years ago.<br />it was almost new then. and it&#039;s been a champion all these years.<br />it worked first time, every time.</p><p>just last week, i popped in a game and hit the power button and<br />nothing happened. i checked the cables, i checked the tv, everything<br />was ok. i didnt notice turning the console on and off i was getting<br />*something* on the tv, but just blackness.</p><p>any idea&#039;s about what might be wrong?<br />replacing the 72 pin connector is out since it&#039;s a top loader<br />and it&#039;s not angled 90 degrees. i was thinking it might be<br />a capacitor issue and i know <a href="http://kitsch.bigcartel.com/product/capacitor-kits" target="_blank">kitsch</a> sells them.<br />but idk if that sounds like it might be the issue. also,<br />i have never done a capacitor replacement... is it tough?<br />im pretty ok at soldering. </p><p>thanx in advance.</p>]]></content>
			<author>
				<name><![CDATA[xero]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/xero</uri>
			</author>
			<updated>2012-04-18T13:28:16Z</updated>
			<id>https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/101089/#p101089</id>
		</entry>
</feed>
