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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Anyone ever record chip on cassette?]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>I have two songs I recorded to cheapo cassettes using my Tascam 424 mkIII. they&#039;re okay. I just bounced the Gameboy part in mono to tape and added instruments and vocals afterwards because I knew syncing the tracks would be insane. I thought they were pretty cool until I tried to record the same songs on my computer along each channel and I just realized that it didn&#039;t compare at all. Granted, I felt rushed for time and I just wanted to get through the recording session; which is not a good mind set to be in with a project.<br />Thinking back, perhaps a good idea would be to split the percussion and the melody parts via panning and then you could have a little more control over the mix. I apologize if this has already been said before, this is my first post. </p><p>Tape is fun, but super impractical.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Three-Year Day Job]]></name>
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			<updated>2016-05-04T01:35:55Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Anyone ever record chip on cassette?]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>This thread has inspired me. I might do a really short test run of my latest release on tape to see how it goes.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[unexpectedbowtie]]></name>
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			<updated>2016-04-15T23:34:38Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Anyone ever record chip on cassette?]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Easiest way to get tape sound would be tracking in a daw with a tape saturation plug in... more real world approach would be tracking instruments Individually on tape machine. Crank the levelz to get tapiness. Timing issues will drive you insane. So record to tape for grit and hiss, dump tracks to daw, snap to grid/quantize/idk&nbsp; to get your times lined up right. Then record back to tape. </p><p>The real dope underground cooler than you shit is all done on wax cylinder these days...</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[oscillating]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/oscillating</uri>
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			<updated>2016-04-15T18:54:19Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Anyone ever record chip on cassette?]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>There&#039;s a question actually... if I managed to get a hold of a 4 track tape recorder, what would be the best way to record each channel individually? I could duplicate the songs and go 2xLSDJ, but that would still only give me two outputs... </p><p>Could always do 2xLSDJ and then pan each instrument so that I get 4 separate outputs. Any better ideas?</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[unexpectedbowtie]]></name>
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			<updated>2016-04-15T12:13:25Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Anyone ever record chip on cassette?]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>GenSek wrote:</cite><blockquote><div class="quotebox"><cite>arlen wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>I&#039;m not really stoked about spending $200 on a busted tape machine, but for some reason a lot of people online think that&#039;s what their junk is worth unfortunately.</p></blockquote></div><p>This.<br />Find a working unit in good shape that don&#039;t cost a crazy amount of cash it seem not simply <img src="https://chipmusic.org/forums/img/smilies/sad.png" width="15" height="15" alt="sad" /></p></blockquote></div><p>I&#039;d probably go for recording it into a DAW first, and then record directly as stereo output onto a blank tape. That might not be the most lofi way to do things, but would still give some of the tape aesthetic. Cheaper too...</p><p>Recording a 4 channel pure cassette release would be pretty cool mind you.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[unexpectedbowtie]]></name>
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			<updated>2016-04-15T12:06:55Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Anyone ever record chip on cassette?]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>arlen wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>I&#039;m not really stoked about spending $200 on a busted tape machine, but for some reason a lot of people online think that&#039;s what their junk is worth unfortunately.</p></blockquote></div><p>This.<br />Find a working unit in good shape that don&#039;t cost a crazy amount of cash it seem not simply <img src="https://chipmusic.org/forums/img/smilies/sad.png" width="15" height="15" alt="sad" /></p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[GenSek]]></name>
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			<updated>2016-04-15T11:59:17Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Anyone ever record chip on cassette?]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>unexpectedbowtie wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>I&#039;ve thought about doing a cassette release for my (non-chip) band for years, but the reality is that I don&#039;t even own a cassette player, and don&#039;t know anybody that does - so it would be more for the pure hell of doing it than being of much use to anybody at all.</p></blockquote></div><p>Cassettes are dope, do it for the the love of tape, if not anything else! I still prefer a car with a cassette deck over a CD Player. CDs are gay.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[dsv101]]></name>
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			<updated>2016-04-15T04:32:12Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Anyone ever record chip on cassette?]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>I&#039;ve thought about doing a cassette release for my (non-chip) band for years, but the reality is that I don&#039;t even own a cassette player, and don&#039;t know anybody that does - so it would be more for the pure hell of doing it than being of much use to anybody at all.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[unexpectedbowtie]]></name>
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			<updated>2016-04-15T00:25:23Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Anyone ever record chip on cassette?]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Been thinking of doing this for years.&nbsp; I&#039;d imagine the medium would muffle the sounds a bit in a good way.&nbsp; I really like how distant the original Terminator soundtrack sounded, and that&#039;s what I would have tried to get for from this.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[HimsyPimsy]]></name>
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			<updated>2016-04-14T20:52:26Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Anyone ever record chip on cassette?]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>arlen wrote:</cite><blockquote><div class="quotebox"><cite>RatShack wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>I was thinking of doing a cassette release recently.</p><p>Geez, I thought blank cassettes would be cheaper.&nbsp; Might need to buy some guy&#039;s tape collection to reuse.</p></blockquote></div><p>For blank cassettes I&#039;d check places like salvation army and thrift stores. Sometimes you can find a few packs of unopened tapes.</p><p>As for a release, I&#039;d try to get as many of the same blank tape as you can just for consistency. Buying someone&#039;s collection would probably not be cheaper. Honestly if you want to put out a cassette release I&#039;d talk to some cassette labels out there. There are plenty and chances are there might be one near you. Most of those guys are pretty cool and will answer questions better than I can. </p><p>I&#039;ve been waiting for a cheap 4 track to pop up around me that isn&#039;t a pile of junk just to add some flavor to my stuff. I&#039;m not really stoked about spending $200 on a busted tape machine, but for some reason a lot of people online think that&#039;s what their junk is worth unfortunately.</p></blockquote></div><p>You can also use commercially released cassettes from back in the day. You just have to put some duct tape over the two empty tabs on top of the cassette. This disengages the write protect mechanism, allowing you to record over whatever was on there to begin with. </p><p>I&#039;ve bought loads of cheap sets of books on tape, like ten tapes at a time, for a few cents, and then used the above method to record over them. There are plenty of pristine copies of &quot;Prairie Home Companion&quot; tapes just laying around at every thrift store to supply at least one or two DIY label releases.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Vaina Moinen]]></name>
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			<updated>2016-04-14T09:12:57Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Anyone ever record chip on cassette?]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>RatShack wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>I was thinking of doing a cassette release recently.</p><p>Geez, I thought blank cassettes would be cheaper.&nbsp; Might need to buy some guy&#039;s tape collection to reuse.</p></blockquote></div><p>For blank cassettes I&#039;d check places like salvation army and thrift stores. Sometimes you can find a few packs of unopened tapes.</p><p>As for a release, I&#039;d try to get as many of the same blank tape as you can just for consistency. Buying someone&#039;s collection would probably not be cheaper. Honestly if you want to put out a cassette release I&#039;d talk to some cassette labels out there. There are plenty and chances are there might be one near you. Most of those guys are pretty cool and will answer questions better than I can. </p><p>I&#039;ve been waiting for a cheap 4 track to pop up around me that isn&#039;t a pile of junk just to add some flavor to my stuff. I&#039;m not really stoked about spending $200 on a busted tape machine, but for some reason a lot of people online think that&#039;s what their junk is worth unfortunately.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[arlen]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/arlen</uri>
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			<updated>2016-04-14T04:40:33Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Anyone ever record chip on cassette?]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>I was thinking of doing a cassette release recently.</p><p>Geez, I thought blank cassettes would be cheaper.&nbsp; Might need to buy some guy&#039;s tape collection to reuse.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[RatShack]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/RatShack</uri>
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			<updated>2016-04-13T23:32:38Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Anyone ever record chip on cassette?]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>The little 4 track cassette recorders tend to (ham-handedly) do some of your EQ&nbsp; work for you with a lot of chip stuff i&#039;ve found</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Fudgers]]></name>
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			<updated>2016-04-13T20:31:03Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for your answer <img src="https://chipmusic.org/forums/img/smilies/smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="smile" /><br />The gear I plan to use are a dmg with nanoloop and a couple of synths (SammichSID, AY3, monotribe), so I&#039;d need at least a 4 track recorder.<br />I&#039;m not a DIY guy, so for mastering, artwork and copies probably I&#039;d better go for the third party route as you suggest.<br />Any advices in EU companies that do this kind of service?<br />In this case I&#039;d need a 4tracks, a tape deck and a bunch of cassettes, anything else?</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[GenSek]]></name>
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			<updated>2016-04-13T08:33:15Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Anyone ever record chip on cassette?]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>GenSek wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Sorry for the necro-bump, but I&#039;m thinkin&#039; of startin&#039; to record my noises on cassette and I need some advices, so:</p><p>What do I need in order to produce my cassette from start to finish?</p><p>I mean, I&#039;m just searching for a 4-track recorder (which one do you choose?), then I will need a tape deck in order to create my &quot;master&quot; cassette and then duplicate it, etc</p><p>So, are there any cassette nerds here? <br />I want to know your production techniques and then start my own cassette label! (maybe) <img src="https://chipmusic.org/forums/img/smilies/smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="smile" /></p></blockquote></div><p>The recorder kind of depends on what you&#039;re planning to do. I&#039;m going to assume you&#039;re using LSDJ. Are you recording each separate channel into its own channel on the recorder&#039;s mixer and then mixing the levels/EQing on there? Or are you just pluggin the &#039;boy in and playing your whole song into just one channel?</p><p>If it&#039;s the first, look for something with enough channels for what you&#039;re going for. If it&#039;s the latter it&#039;ll be cheaper since there are plenty of cheap 2 channel cassette recorders out there. More channels = more sought after and more expensive typically. In terms of brands and what to look for I&#039;d say the hierarchy goes something like Teac &gt; Tascam &gt; Yamaha &gt; Fostex. Teac and Tascam being the best, Yamaha being pretty good, Fostex being ok at best.</p><br /><p>Uh for the label business that&#039;s a bit different. How DIY are you? You can buy a cassette duplicator, but they&#039;re usually like $300-$400 I think? There might be some cheaper ones out there and its possible to find a deal on craigslist, but i don&#039;t know. </p><p>Your other option for doing a release would be to have a third party dupe the master to cassettes for you. This is what my friend who runs a record label does. I forget what company they use for tape releases exactly. Cost probably varies for this.</p><p>Hopefully this clears some stuff up for you? I like tapes.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[arlen]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/arlen</uri>
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			<updated>2016-04-13T05:41:44Z</updated>
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