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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>What will they come up with next! What if someone made a program that basically acted like the American Idol judges. You load your song into the program and then you get CC from the bots. It would be the gayest, shittiest program in the world and I&#039;d totally get it. I&#039;ve always wanted to be insulted by bots. I think it&#039;d be a lot more gratifying then being spammed with porn by them.&nbsp; Has anyone tried to talk back to the porn bots thinking they were in fact people? I remember when I was 13 I used to be like, HEY BABY... what are you doing right now. cool story x__x</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[MisfitChris]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/MisfitChris</uri>
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			<updated>2010-02-18T12:42:22Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Can a computer tell if you have a hit?]]></title>
			<link rel="alternate" href="https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/10695/#p10695"/>
			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>Mano wrote:</cite><blockquote><p><div class="embed_video"><iframe width="560" height="340" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/o-Px6uqwDJ0" frameborder="0" webkitallowfullscreen mozallowfullscreen allowfullscreen></iframe></div></p></blockquote></div><p>I want to make this hit.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Subway Sonicbeat]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/Subway+Sonicbeat</uri>
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			<updated>2010-02-13T17:04:16Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>I got one platinum and a gold. I wish i could test more songs. what did you all get?</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[TristEndo-in-spacebutt]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/TristEndo-in-spacebutt</uri>
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			<updated>2010-02-13T15:00:25Z</updated>
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				<name><![CDATA[Mano]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/Mano</uri>
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			<updated>2010-02-13T12:39:43Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Can a computer tell if you have a hit?]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>OxygenStar wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Whenever you upload a song to that site it goes directly to Timberland&#039;s desktop. Then he &quot;samples&quot; it and makes it a &quot;hit.&quot;</p></blockquote></div><p> winrar!</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[yuh]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/yuh</uri>
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			<updated>2010-02-13T05:24:48Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Can a computer tell if you have a hit?]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>ant1 wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>The Manual by The KLF? <img src="https://chipmusic.org/forums/img/smilies/tongue.png" width="15" height="15" alt="tongue" /></p></blockquote></div><p>Yes I do believe that is the one</p><div class="quotebox"><cite>akira^8GB wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>stuff</p></blockquote></div><p>Obviously it&#039;s not a &quot;hit&quot; by definition until it&#039;s on the radio and charting and all that but it seems this simply compares your shit to the shit that already did that</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Rainbowdragoneyes]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/Rainbowdragoneyes</uri>
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			<updated>2010-02-12T22:37:29Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>ant1 wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>The Manual by The KLF? <img src="https://chipmusic.org/forums/img/smilies/tongue.png" width="15" height="15" alt="tongue" /></p></blockquote></div><p>I actually was so thinking about the The KLF&#039;s The Manual, but seeing that the OP was about AI, I just thought it was too off-topic. <img src="https://chipmusic.org/forums/img/smilies/tongue.png" width="15" height="15" alt="tongue" /></p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Esopus-dragon]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/Esopus-dragon</uri>
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			<updated>2010-02-12T21:10:12Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>As said, it could indeed recognize patterns of stuff that once formed a hit, but that is not necessarily a hit. A hit tune in music depends on a shit ton of factors way above this&nbsp; analyzation&#039;s scope, like social factors, demographics, geographical factors, time period, culture of deployment, etc. etc.</p><p>Thanks for the schooling, µB. Neural Networks is something that always attracted my attention since I was a kid and it&#039;s always cool to learn more about the current developments <img src="https://chipmusic.org/forums/img/smilies/big_smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="big_smile" /></p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[akira^8GB]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/akira%5E8GB</uri>
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			<updated>2010-02-12T21:02:22Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>The Manual by The KLF? <img src="https://chipmusic.org/forums/img/smilies/tongue.png" width="15" height="15" alt="tongue" /></p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[ant1]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/ant1</uri>
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			<updated>2010-02-12T21:01:59Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>It seems legit enough that a program could recognize a hit to a certain degree. Obviously the real hits are chosen by people and not a program but there are very specific formulas and elements to commercial music.</p><p>I can&#039;t remember their name but there was a band back in the day that sometime during their career decided they wanted to step away from their usual writing style briefly and focus on writing a song that would almost certainly be a number one on the charts.</p><p>So they did, and it was, and they wrote a book about it called &quot;How To Write A Number One Hit&quot;, and some band in sweden or somewhere went by the book, literally, and also managed to pen a number one single. Pretty rad if you ask me.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Rainbowdragoneyes]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/Rainbowdragoneyes</uri>
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			<updated>2010-02-12T20:57:08Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Well, I know that there have been some experiments with pattern recognition (fuzzy logic, neural networks) where they fed it &#039;hits&#039; and then charged it to produce one. Kinda like when they did that with pictures of beautiful people and then had it make a picture- in both cases the result was rather bland, but not too far off the mark. </p><p>The idea that a trained neural network could compare input to it&#039;s &#039;perfect&#039; template and then calculates the overlap is viable, but probably not practical (yet). That seems to be what they&#039;re offering from what I&#039;ve read, and a comparison with the DB of the neural network would be very quick (The dissection of the input data should however take a while depending on the width of parameters). The accuracy of the result depends on how well the network was trained, how many aspects of the input are compared and human-made adjustments for exceptions, training errors and such.</p><p>So, yes, it could work to a degree. I&#039;d file this particular site under &#039;toy&#039; though, because I have yet to see a neural network that was trained so well that it could tackle a complex beast like the effect of music on the human brain*, mainly because we still haven&#039;t figured out how exactly our brain works. There were some interesting efforts in combining genetic algorithms (evolution based self-writing networks) with AI last I checked on the topic, and complex tasks in areas that are explained well (ie we know most of the system parameters) can be solved. For example, a few years ago a trained network was able to perform the landing operation of a jet.</p><p>*) See for example the yet unsuccessful attempts of using neural networks as a translation tool. Language is comparable to music in width of parameters and complexity</p><p>Edit:Fixed some Germanglish</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[µB]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/%C2%B5B</uri>
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			<updated>2010-02-12T20:15:01Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>I think there is software being run by uni&#039;s &amp; labs that can identify characteristics that are similar, but yeah, that doesnt mean its gunna be a hit.</p><p>And yes, that site is pretty far feetched. lol</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[8bitweapon]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/8bitweapon</uri>
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			<updated>2010-02-12T19:58:26Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>8bitweapon wrote:</cite><blockquote><div class="quotebox"><cite>akira^8GB wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>What a load of bullshit! <img src="https://chipmusic.org/forums/img/smilies/big_smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="big_smile" /></p></blockquote></div><p>Which is bullshit:</p><p>A) the notion that a computer can compare song data to see if it has characteristics of other hit songs or <br />B) that website? (im guessing this one)</p></blockquote></div><p>Both, man! <img src="https://chipmusic.org/forums/img/smilies/big_smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="big_smile" /><br />Just the fact that it has &quot;characteristics&quot; of other hit songs doesn&#039;t mean it will be a hit. I can copy how a Snoop Dogg song is and it could not be a hit! Also, this will depend on socio/geographical factors.</p><p>A website existing that offers this &quot;service&quot; is 10x more bullshit <img src="https://chipmusic.org/forums/img/smilies/big_smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="big_smile" /></p><p>Hilarious link of the week!</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[akira^8GB]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/akira%5E8GB</uri>
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			<updated>2010-02-12T19:40:40Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>OxygenStar wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Whenever you upload a song to that site it goes directly to Timberland&#039;s desktop. Then he &quot;samples&quot; it and makes it a &quot;hit.&quot;</p></blockquote></div><br /><p>LOL 10 points for Oxy</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[8bitweapon]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/8bitweapon</uri>
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			<updated>2010-02-12T19:20:24Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Whenever you upload a song to that site it goes directly to Timberland&#039;s desktop. Then he &quot;samples&quot; it and makes it a &quot;hit.&quot;</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[O2star]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/O2star</uri>
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			<updated>2010-02-12T19:19:16Z</updated>
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