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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: EMS USB transferring problem]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>SketchMan3 wrote:</cite><blockquote><div class="quotebox"><cite>kitsch wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>and, your question about putting LSDJ on the cart twice: put one LSDJ ROM in each menu.&nbsp; two ROMs on the whole cart.&nbsp; LSDJ is funny and won&#039;t share menu space on the cartridge with other ROMs, it causes either the other ROM to not appear in the list, or LSDJ itself.</p></blockquote></div><p>When you put LSDJ on both menus, they share the sram, right? Does that mean that booting from either bank 1 or bank 2 results in the same sav data being loaded? No data loss whether I boot from bank 1 or bank 2, right?</p><p>I had finally committed to buying an EMS 64m carts, but in my post-commitment research I&#039;ve come across all these horror stories... it&#039;s so scary.</p></blockquote></div><p>I don&#039;t know about 2 LSDJs on the same cart but I remember other games (pokemon for example) will mess with the sram when loaded while LSDJ is on the other page. LSDJ doesn&#039;t like to share.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[GoingHam]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/GoingHam</uri>
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			<updated>2012-07-09T03:59:11Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: EMS USB transferring problem]]></title>
			<link rel="alternate" href="https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/118475/#p118475"/>
			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>I just had the same problem.... i went to copy a SAV file and when i start it up it says &quot;Checking saved ram&quot; and then shortly once it starts up it brings me to the error screen,,, you know,,, the &quot;dont panic!&quot; thing.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Bit wish]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/Bit+wish</uri>
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			<updated>2012-07-09T02:12:34Z</updated>
			<id>https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/118475/#p118475</id>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: EMS USB transferring problem]]></title>
			<link rel="alternate" href="https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/118460/#p118460"/>
			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Since I had to play for the first time live, I bought another cartridge from <a href="http://www.noiseandroid.com/" target="_blank">Noise Android</a>. When I received it I tried it and I realized that it was the first time that I was using a working cartridge, since the one from NonElectronics in fact never worked for more than an hour before crashing (earlier if I shook the Game Boy), but I didn&#039;t have a comparison and so I thought it was normal.<br />I wrote three e-mails to NonElectronics but they never answered, not even to say &quot;It&#039;s not our problem&quot;, so I basically threw 38 dollars away. Nice customer support.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[rbino]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/rbino</uri>
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			<updated>2012-07-09T00:49:36Z</updated>
			<id>https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/118460/#p118460</id>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: EMS USB transferring problem]]></title>
			<link rel="alternate" href="https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/115880/#p115880"/>
			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Jotie did you sorted it out? I bought an EMS cartridge from NonFinite in February with LSDj, now when I tried burning a newer version of LSDj I had the same problem you had! I tried with 2 different PCs, 4 cables, both banks, reinstalled drivers, tried another ROM... everything you can think of, but nothing. I also wrote to NonFinite but they didn&#039;t answer me yet.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[rbino]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/rbino</uri>
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			<updated>2012-06-27T00:51:42Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: EMS USB transferring problem]]></title>
			<link rel="alternate" href="https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/112427/#p112427"/>
			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>kitsch wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>and, your question about putting LSDJ on the cart twice: put one LSDJ ROM in each menu.&nbsp; two ROMs on the whole cart.&nbsp; LSDJ is funny and won&#039;t share menu space on the cartridge with other ROMs, it causes either the other ROM to not appear in the list, or LSDJ itself.</p></blockquote></div><p>When you put LSDJ on both menus, they share the sram, right? Does that mean that booting from either bank 1 or bank 2 results in the same sav data being loaded? No data loss whether I boot from bank 1 or bank 2, right?</p><p>I had finally committed to buying an EMS 64m carts, but in my post-commitment research I&#039;ve come across all these horror stories... it&#039;s so scary.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[SketchMan3]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/SketchMan3</uri>
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			<updated>2012-06-14T03:50:19Z</updated>
			<id>https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/112427/#p112427</id>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: EMS USB transferring problem]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>it will get sorted out.&nbsp; you&#039;re so close.&nbsp; just that last hiccup at the end.&nbsp; the files can&#039;t be written for some reason in that block, or NONE of the file is being written at all and the hiccup at the end is some sort of checksum failure.&nbsp; at least the cart is ID&#039;ing itself properly, thats good.</p><p>well, if you&#039;ve exhausted switching the actual USB cable, try using a different USB port on your computer.&nbsp; sometimes this helps, if you are using a USB hub at all i know that&#039;s probably the issue.&nbsp; hubs don&#039;t work, use the most direct port you can.</p><p>if your comp is old enough to have both usb ver. 1 and 2 types on there, use the ver. 2 plug in case its an instance of the transfer speed.</p><p>but, yeah, sounds like a connectivity problem, rather than a driver/software issue.&nbsp; </p><p>ohhhhhhh, try this.&nbsp; write a smaller ROM just to test.&nbsp; see if that works.&nbsp; if this round of LSDJ install doesn&#039;t work, try that and post the results too.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[kitsch]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/kitsch</uri>
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			<updated>2012-05-06T14:55:41Z</updated>
			<id>https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/104663/#p104663</id>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: EMS USB transferring problem]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>kitsch wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>although, the ghost read/writes you are getting are pretty classic of just not having full contact between the cart and USB cable, as is the software hanging on the last part.&nbsp; </p><p>if the software recognizes the cart AT ALL, even just at the beginning, your drivers are fine.&nbsp; if the drivers aren&#039;t working, your cart won&#039;t be recognized as anything other than an unknown device.</p></blockquote></div><p>Okay, REALLY sounds like a contact problem, then. Usually hangs after writing, cart is recognized by GB_USB.exe. <br />(Altough it&#039;s noted as &quot;EMS link cable&quot; in the remove hardware safely window, and in the Control=&gt;Device. Manual says that&#039;s normal, I think)<br />I just find it really strange to experience the same problems with 2 cables. <br />Belgian weather, I guess?</p><br /><p>Going to reinstall the way you explained. But I can&#039;t really think of steps to reboot in between of: I mean, plug it in, &quot;new hardware found&quot;, &quot;give me the map location in which the driver software is located&quot; (usually a documents sub-map), give it the location, it installs, boom, ready. Shut down, close the laptop. Open, start laptop. :s</p><br /><p>Oh and by the way: thanks for all the help, I&#039;m really freaking on this. (Vista and McAfee pop-ups aren&#039;t helping the least)</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Jotie]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/Jotie</uri>
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			<updated>2012-05-06T14:43:58Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: EMS USB transferring problem]]></title>
			<link rel="alternate" href="https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/104659/#p104659"/>
			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>to reinstall, you&#039;ll need to delete ALL the files you put on your computer doing the install, the software and the .sys and .inf ones.&nbsp; once the install is attempted, if it fails, starting over is the only way which seems to help.</p><p>also, put the files on your computer where they will stay, forever.&nbsp; your drivers folder probably.&nbsp; don&#039;t try to install them while they are on the desktop, then move them where you want them.</p><p>restarting in between steps is a pretty big deal, it will update your system registry files (the driver may actually be installing fine the first time).&nbsp; I had this same issue with a printer last week, drove me nuts.&nbsp; </p><p>although, the ghost read/writes you are getting are pretty classic of just not having full contact between the cart and USB cable, as is the software hanging on the last part.&nbsp; </p><p>if the software recognizes the cart AT ALL, even just at the beginning, your drivers are fine.&nbsp; if the drivers aren&#039;t working, your cart won&#039;t be recognized as anything other than an unknown device.</p><p>and, your question about putting LSDJ on the cart twice: put one LSDJ ROM in each menu.&nbsp; two ROMs on the whole cart.&nbsp; LSDJ is funny and won&#039;t share menu space on the cartridge with other ROMs, it causes either the other ROM to not appear in the list, or LSDJ itself.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[kitsch]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/kitsch</uri>
			</author>
			<updated>2012-05-06T14:27:07Z</updated>
			<id>https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/104659/#p104659</id>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: EMS USB transferring problem]]></title>
			<link rel="alternate" href="https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/104658/#p104658"/>
			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>12ianma wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Maybe the cart is locked on one of the pages. Try burning the same rom to both pages.</p></blockquote></div><p>How? By putting LSDJ twice in the burn list? Or manually switching pages after writing? <br />I can&#039;t see because after transferring/writing, nothing touches ground.</p><br /><div class="quotebox"><cite>kitsch wrote:</cite><blockquote><p> (LSDJ must be by itself on the menu).</p></blockquote></div><p>It is, &quot;file&quot; &quot;lsdj v 4.something&quot; or do you mean putting the .gb file on the desktop?</p><br /><br /><p>Found that the driver is only shown in Control panel =&gt; Device Manager if you&#039;re running as Admin, it&#039;s hidden when not. <img src="https://chipmusic.org/forums/img/smilies/smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="smile" /></p><p>Now that I&#039;ve found that (silly me) I was able to reinstall the driver four times over and again because it won&#039;t stop crashing.</p><p>One time,&nbsp; GB_USB crashed, rebooted, started GB_USB and it showed lsdj as written on the cart, but when unplugged and tested: nothing there. Plugged back in:nothing there. <img src="https://chipmusic.org/forums/img/smilies/sad.png" width="15" height="15" alt="sad" /></p>]]></content>
			<author>
				<name><![CDATA[Jotie]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/Jotie</uri>
			</author>
			<updated>2012-05-06T14:17:48Z</updated>
			<id>https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/104658/#p104658</id>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: EMS USB transferring problem]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Maybe the cart is locked on one of the pages. Try burning the same rom to both pages.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[12ianma]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/12ianma</uri>
			</author>
			<updated>2012-05-04T22:47:35Z</updated>
			<id>https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/104434/#p104434</id>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: EMS USB transferring problem]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Nope, outside of the DMG</p><p>FAQ<br />Q3. The program always holds during file trasferation. What&#039;s matter ?<br />A. Please re-install the driver. Please note that you MUST reboot your PC after driver installation.</p><p>Reinstall, but how?</p>]]></content>
			<author>
				<name><![CDATA[Jotie]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/Jotie</uri>
			</author>
			<updated>2012-05-04T21:13:51Z</updated>
			<id>https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/104412/#p104412</id>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: EMS USB transferring problem]]></title>
			<link rel="alternate" href="https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/104386/#p104386"/>
			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Are you using the cart while its in the gameboy?&nbsp; Hook up the USB while its OUTSIDE the gameboy.&nbsp; &nbsp;I have no idea why this is an issue but that&#039;s what happened to me.</p>]]></content>
			<author>
				<name><![CDATA[danimal cannon]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/danimal+cannon</uri>
			</author>
			<updated>2012-05-04T18:43:02Z</updated>
			<id>https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/104386/#p104386</id>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: EMS USB transferring problem]]></title>
			<link rel="alternate" href="https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/104385/#p104385"/>
			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>i know this sounds a bit much, but try yet another usb cable if you&#039;ve got one.&nbsp; totally different brand.&nbsp; the fit among different types can be quite different.&nbsp; </p><p>another thing which may be the root of both: if there is a mistake in the driver installation, you&#039;ve basically got to delete the files and start from scratch.&nbsp; i think its the digitally signing bit thats the cause for this, but if the install fails starting over is always the way to go.&nbsp; this has been my experience at least.</p><p>also, re: the installation, restart your comp between all the major steps of the process.&nbsp; your system registry and all that is updated then.&nbsp; a hard reboot, not a restart.</p><p>since your issues are the same in both carts, look to the commonalities that exist among the two.&nbsp; the drivers, the software install, the cable, the usb port (don&#039;t use a hub!), the ROMs you are flashing (LSDJ must be by itself on the menu), things like this.&nbsp; to have two different carts have the same issues, from two suppliers, probably from two different batches, is pretty weird.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[kitsch]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/kitsch</uri>
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			<updated>2012-05-04T18:34:41Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[EMS USB transferring problem]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>I&#039;m experiencing transferring problems with my 64m USB carts.<br />I mailed a while ago with Kitsch on the problem but we couldn&#039;t fix it. I gave up and lived with it because it worked propperly outside of transfering.</p><p>Now my nonfinite cart has a very similar issue. </p><p>Pretty sure I just installed the wrong driver software , but I can&#039;t figure out how to reinstall with the right software. The software isn&#039;t listed in Configuration -&gt; Software. Does anybody know how I could fix it?</p><br /><p>The Details: <br />With the first cart, I couldn&#039;t READ my sav files to my pc. A sav file appeared on my pc, it worked properly, but they were empty sav files. No songs or instruments (not even the pre-made kitsch songs <img src="https://chipmusic.org/forums/img/smilies/smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="smile" />). I dinn&#039;t try anyhting else because I wanted to keep the songs I wrote.</p><p>While running the nonfinite cart (arrived in the mail today, thanks nonfinite!), which is empty, I can&#039;t WRITE a rom to it. It&#039;s listed in the &quot;ready to burn&quot; list, after clicking WRITE it shows the loading bar, &quot;writting&quot; and waits one minute, but after transferring, nothing is on the cart.</p><p>Kitsch thought it could be that my cart or mini-sub port didn&#039;t connect right and had to apply pressure while transferring, but I can&#039;t imagine two carts with the same problem.</p><p>Tried it on different two pc&#039;s with two different usb to mini usb cables. <br />Next show Wednesday, want to rehearse this weekend, i&#039;m actually kind of stressed about this <img src="https://chipmusic.org/forums/img/smilies/sad.png" width="15" height="15" alt="sad" />.</p>]]></content>
			<author>
				<name><![CDATA[Jotie]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/Jotie</uri>
			</author>
			<updated>2012-05-04T18:15:20Z</updated>
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