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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Aha. OK, I will.</p><p>Done: <a href="http://chipmusic.org/forums/topic/10202/sampletracker-on-zx-spectrum/" target="_blank">http://chipmusic.org/forums/topic/10202 &#133; -spectrum/</a></p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[YERZMYEY]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/YERZMYEY</uri>
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			<updated>2013-02-14T20:13:24Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Protracker STe Question]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Been trying to wrap my head around it for some time now, but I just can&#039;t figure it out. How do I change the octave, for example? And more importantly, how do I prepare a .tap with samples that will actually work? <img src="https://chipmusic.org/forums/img/smilies/wink.png" width="15" height="15" alt="wink" /> So, if you&#039;d open up a tutorial thread, I&#039;d greatly appreciate it (and possibly some other people here, too).</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[irrlichtproject]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/irrlichtproject</uri>
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			<updated>2013-02-14T19:35:08Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Protracker STe Question]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>irrlichtproject wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Nice, thanks for sharing, man!<br />Btw will these work correctly on ZX-Sampletracker?</p></blockquote></div><p>I imagine it should, as it loads even regular PC WAVs, hehe. <br />But it adds a click on beginnings of instruments (which is a header that&#039;s audible here) that means SampleTracker prefers rather un-signed samples. <br />I&#039;d say SampleTracker will work the best with unsigned RAW files. 8bit quality and 16000hz should be OK for it. <br />However You should remember that the program is designed for ZX Spectrums with 48Kb only, so Your instruments _must_ be small. Normally, for ZX48K I make samples 1-3Kb big. The program behaves then in a similar way like MusicMon on Atari ST (various ways of decoding) - it plays on ZX the 8bit samples with quality required for hardware You have. <br />Which in ZX case means: when You switch into Covox, then You hear 8bit quality of Your music. If You have only the standard config - Spectrum48 with AY-interface, then You will hear 4bit quality of the samples. <br />And also - on the basic config - alone ZX48 - You will have Your song in 1-bit quality (beeper). Of course still 3 channels. </p><p>Greetz,<br />Y</p><p>PS: If You plan to use ZX48 and the SampleTracker, I can test for sure what sample-format does it use exactly. But actually we should rather move this conversation into &quot;Other Vintage Computers &amp; Consoles&quot; corner, hahah. <img src="https://chipmusic.org/forums/img/smilies/wink.png" width="15" height="15" alt="wink" /> Although the sound-chip is the same in both machines. <img src="https://chipmusic.org/forums/img/smilies/wink.png" width="15" height="15" alt="wink" /></p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[YERZMYEY]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/YERZMYEY</uri>
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			<updated>2013-02-14T13:28:37Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Protracker STe Question]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>YERZMYEY wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>...if anybody&#039;s interested - some samples-set (about 70 of them, various ones, I made from my synthesizer). Some of them might require a fine-tune (modern synth hardware appears to be crap). <br /><a href="http://www.sendspace.com/file/8p74gv" target="_blank">http://www.sendspace.com/file/8p74gv</a></p><p>(Use the blue link: &quot;Click here to start download from sendspace&quot;). </p><p>Byez,<br />Y</p></blockquote></div><p>Nice, thanks for sharing, man!<br />Btw will these work correctly on ZX-Sampletracker?</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[irrlichtproject]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/irrlichtproject</uri>
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			<updated>2013-02-14T12:38:46Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Protracker STe Question]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>gwEm wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>MusicMon does have a format with the .MOD extension, but its totally different from a Protracker mod unfortunately</p></blockquote></div><p>SND&#039;s are fun!</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[xylo]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/xylo</uri>
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			<updated>2013-02-14T07:44:48Z</updated>
			<id>https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/156209/#p156209</id>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Protracker STe Question]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>...if anybody&#039;s interested - some samples-set (about 70 of them, various ones, I made from my synthesizer). Some of them might require a fine-tune (modern synth hardware appears to be crap). <br /><a href="http://www.sendspace.com/file/8p74gv" target="_blank">http://www.sendspace.com/file/8p74gv</a></p><p>(Use the blue link: &quot;Click here to start download from sendspace&quot;). </p><p>Byez,<br />Y</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[YERZMYEY]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/YERZMYEY</uri>
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			<updated>2013-02-11T09:16:26Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Protracker STe Question]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Yyyyyyyyyyupp. I&#039;ve just tested it. <br />ProTracker STE eats RAW, 8bit, mono, signed samples. <br />You can change extension into *.SPL to have it all easier. </p><br /><p>PS: It loads also IFF files but then You hear a small click on the beginning of every sample (the header). So I don&#039;t recommend, unless You convert it to RAW described above.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[YERZMYEY]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/YERZMYEY</uri>
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			<updated>2013-01-24T22:02:18Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Theta_Frost, _133: </p><p>Returning to the proper subject of this thread, it&#039;s worth to add that that Octalyser takes such a sample format: RAW, 8bit, mono, signed (I use mostly 16kHz and 22kHz). <br />If You&#039;d be interested in ProTracker too, I can check it out later (although I presume the format might be the same).</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[YERZMYEY]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/YERZMYEY</uri>
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			<updated>2013-01-18T12:45:57Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Protracker STe Question]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>MusicMon does have a format with the .MOD extension, but its totally different from a Protracker mod unfortunately</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[gwEm]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/gwEm</uri>
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			<updated>2013-01-17T13:17:08Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>XyNo wrote:</cite><blockquote><div class="quotebox"><cite>xylo wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>You could try MusicMon 2.5e. It lets you &#039;draw&#039; sounds in a little window which you can tweak by setting some parameters and stuff. </p><p>Or you could import mods you like and try tweaking instruments in those mods. Learn their structure and then try making your own.</p></blockquote></div><p>I can&#039;t load mods in 2.5e. I click Load, click mod and nothing happens... :S</p></blockquote></div><p>With mods I ment Atari modules .snd files.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[xylo]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/xylo</uri>
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			<updated>2013-01-17T09:45:51Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>...and talkin&#039;bout oldschool digital music from Atari ST... <img src="https://chipmusic.org/forums/img/smilies/wink.png" width="15" height="15" alt="wink" /> </p><p><a class="postimg" href="http://yerzmyey.republika.pl/ym_digital_logo.png" title="http://yerzmyey.republika.pl/ym_digital_logo.png" id="forum_image_21094611"><img src="http://yerzmyey.republika.pl/ym_digital_logo.png" /></a></p><p>After 2 years - some teasers of the oncoming new album:</p><p>Factor6 - &quot;Rasengan!&quot; (only a fragment here).<br />More chiptune-like song.<br />4 channels (ProTracker_ST). Quality: 50 050 Hz (with the Paulo&#039;s player).<br /><a href="http://ym-digital.i-demo.pl/YM_DIGITAL-Rasengan_FRAGMENT.mp3" target="_blank">http://ym-digital.i-demo.pl/YM_DIGITAL- &#133; AGMENT.mp3</a></p><p>Yerzmyey - &quot;Meteor Rain&quot; (a full song).<br />Totally not a chiptune style. <img src="https://chipmusic.org/forums/img/smilies/wink.png" width="15" height="15" alt="wink" /><br />6 channels (HexTracker). Quality: 21 942 Hz.<br /><a href="http://ym-digital.i-demo.pl/YM_DIGITAL-Meteor_Rain.mp3" target="_blank">http://ym-digital.i-demo.pl/YM_DIGITAL-Meteor_Rain.mp3</a></p><p>All recorded from real hardware, ATARI 520ST (pure ym2149 of course).</p><p>So - I rather don&#039;t complain for for the regular ST sound. <img src="https://chipmusic.org/forums/img/smilies/smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="smile" /> <br />Although there is some small bug in Hex&#039;s engine (slides are... somewhat hoarse. But maybe it&#039;s impossible to get better from YM chip while playing 6 channels? Hm. I dunno. </p><p>Greetzzzz,<br />Yerz</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[YERZMYEY]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/YERZMYEY</uri>
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			<updated>2013-01-17T09:17:18Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Looks like Octalyser is the way to go, thank you guys!&nbsp; My 1040STe&#039;s PSU is broken, so I&#039;m in the process of replacing it - but then I hope to be up and running.&nbsp; I actually ordered some UltraSatan PCB&#039;s for personal use, but the BOM is pretty tough to follow.&nbsp; I&#039;ll have to contact jookie about it.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Theta_Frost]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/Theta_Frost</uri>
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			<updated>2012-12-23T23:53:48Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Post Scriptum: </p><p>Theta - actually there is no conversion required, You just take Amiga&#039;s MOD and load it into STe. <br />And check out if everything&#039;s plays OK. That&#039;s how I found out that Octalyser handles MODs so well.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[YERZMYEY]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/YERZMYEY</uri>
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			<updated>2012-12-23T15:21:51Z</updated>
			<id>https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/147761/#p147761</id>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Also, to add 505&#039;s infos, while preparing stuff for last SillyVenture, I found that the MOD engine most compatible to original Amiga&#039;s one, is indeed Octalyser (in 4ch mode), It plays in very good quality and if some MOD doesn&#039;t work on ProTracker STe, then I test it on Octalyser (if I use STe machine). <br />What appeared: Michu&#039;s track didn&#039;t work on any 4ch tracker of ST/e - and it worked great on Octalyser. <br />So it would be my part of advice, to add it to 505&#039;s notes. </p><p>I&#039;m also very glad that people get more interest in Atari tracking, what can I say - You guys will not be disappointed. <img src="https://chipmusic.org/forums/img/smilies/wink.png" width="15" height="15" alt="wink" /> <br />I wasn&#039;t. <br />Also communication with PC is really easy, with regular diskettes (simply format it into 720K and it work just fine on ST/e) or HxC SD (there&#039;s a converter added). <br />Another way is an external harddrisk in form of satan/ultrasatan, where You save/load with SD card (there is a small prog for PC required to extract files from ST/e to PC and back, called &quot;Drive Imaging&quot;).</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[YERZMYEY]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/YERZMYEY</uri>
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			<updated>2012-12-23T15:19:48Z</updated>
			<id>https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/147760/#p147760</id>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Theta_Frost: in my opinion, for normal 4 Channel modules its definitely PROTRACKER STE, especially when switchted to 50khz multiplex replay (click on the frequency displayed above the oscilators). It is pretty compatible to Amiga Protracker, just lacking some &quot;modern&quot; commands as some Exx. One thing to know is, that the bpm timing is not 100% correct compared to other replayers. you have to tweak a bit, if you want to use longer exactly synced loops. But its not a really big problem.</p><p>OCTALYSER is just as good (up to 8 channels, good interface and functions, even higher command compatibility) - its just matter of taste.</p><p>Great that ppl are interested in Atari tracking <img src="https://chipmusic.org/forums/img/smilies/smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="smile" /></p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[505]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/505</uri>
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			<updated>2012-12-23T11:09:40Z</updated>
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