<![CDATA[ChipMusic.org - Sweep, shape, and pulse command mysteries]]> 2016-12-03T02:42:37Z PunBB https://chipmusic.org/forums/topic/7569/sweep-shape-and-pulse-command-mysteries/ <![CDATA[Re: Sweep, shape, and pulse command mysteries]]> Found a great tutorial on focusing on the noise channel - he shows an example of how the sweep command can be used in the noise channel.

Good stuff!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wD7omqjHXmI&t=3s

]]> https://chipmusic.org/neatthriftstore 2016-12-03T02:42:37Z https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/249638/#p249638 <![CDATA[Re: Sweep, shape, and pulse command mysteries]]> Zef wrote:

Very much so, and since S command only works in Pu1 and not in Pu2 and it's choppier I think I've only ever used it for the noise channel, it's good for glitchiness, but not much else as far as I can tell.

sweep kicks?

]]> https://chipmusic.org/walter+b.+gentle 2012-06-25T13:49:51Z https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/115433/#p115433 <![CDATA[Re: Sweep, shape, and pulse command mysteries]]> danimal cannon wrote:

If you set the S command and the P command to do similar pitch bends, you'll notice that the S command has a choppiness to it, and the P command is a nice SMOOTH pitch bend.

Very much so, and since S command only works in Pu1 and not in Pu2 and it's choppier I think I've only ever used it for the noise channel, it's good for glitchiness, but not much else as far as I can tell.

]]> https://chipmusic.org/Zef 2012-06-25T13:38:31Z https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/115429/#p115429 <![CDATA[Re: Sweep, shape, and pulse command mysteries]]> If you set the S command and the P command to do similar pitch bends, you'll notice that the S command has a choppiness to it, and the P command is a nice SMOOTH pitch bend.

]]> https://chipmusic.org/danimal+cannon 2012-06-25T05:48:45Z https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/115369/#p115369 <![CDATA[Re: Sweep, shape, and pulse command mysteries]]> hmmm... well I guess that just ensures that LSDJ will always have some sort of a learning curve to keep me interested. I still know more now than I did at the start of this thread. Thanks!

]]> https://chipmusic.org/squidtantrum 2012-06-25T05:10:39Z https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/115365/#p115365 <![CDATA[Re: Sweep, shape, and pulse command mysteries]]> There's a legitimate source of confusion here, though. Even if you know in general what sweep and shape are/do, it may be unclear what the S command does, exactly. There are three ways it could work. It could set an absolute value, set a value relative to the instrument's value, or set a value relative to the value after the last command was executed. And there's also another factor, whether a relative value is applied as an 8 bit add, or to each nibble individually.

This can vary between whether the command is used for the PU1 or the noise channel. This can vary depending on whether the command is used in a table or a phrase. The behavior can vary between versions. (These differences used to be a notorious way old songs could break. I've probably used LSDj longer than anyone in this thread, and I generally have to rediscover the exact behavior everytime I want to use the S command. This is just an idiosyncrasy of LSDj that you have to get used to.

]]> https://chipmusic.org/nitro2k01 2012-06-25T03:25:23Z https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/115351/#p115351 <![CDATA[Re: Sweep, shape, and pulse command mysteries]]> I'm still reading the manual.... the S command is so much more clear now. And I definitely didn't know that it affected the kit instruments differently.
I'm still missing some details though... The manual says "...the first digit affects pitch"... and then later describes (in the "pitch bend" section) that P02 bends up pitch with a speed of 2, and PFE bends down pitch with a speed of 2.

But if I set up a default pulse in PU1, using D4, and the sweep set to FE, it doesn't seem to be bending anywhere. It's just a sustained pulse, no different from FF

]]> https://chipmusic.org/squidtantrum 2012-06-25T03:03:01Z https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/115341/#p115341 <![CDATA[Re: Sweep, shape, and pulse command mysteries]]> The Sky Is Black Not Blue wrote:

memememememe

]]> https://chipmusic.org/Auxcide 2012-06-25T02:58:04Z https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/115340/#p115340 <![CDATA[Re: Sweep, shape, and pulse command mysteries]]> ^ so you know how to use the commands now?

]]> https://chipmusic.org/The+Sky+Is+Black+Not+Blue 2012-06-25T02:49:33Z https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/115337/#p115337 <![CDATA[Re: Sweep, shape, and pulse command mysteries]]> Thanks! Though in my defense, I read the manual in 2010 and I totally don't remember detailed info on the sweep commands.

Course.... at that time I was probably just looking for the section that answered "HOW DO I MAKE A SWEET CHIPTUNE"?

]]> https://chipmusic.org/squidtantrum 2012-06-25T02:48:00Z https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/115336/#p115336 <![CDATA[Re: Sweep, shape, and pulse command mysteries]]> an0va wrote:

I have my LSDJ manual printed out and in a 3-hole punch binder. smile

]]> https://chipmusic.org/Auxcide 2012-06-25T02:47:19Z https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/115335/#p115335 <![CDATA[Re: Sweep, shape, and pulse command mysteries]]> Auxcide wrote:

Because apparently we're experts..

http://www.quickmeme.com/meme/3pukdg/

]]> https://chipmusic.org/The+Sky+Is+Black+Not+Blue 2012-06-25T02:41:01Z https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/115333/#p115333 <![CDATA[Re: Sweep, shape, and pulse command mysteries]]> an0va wrote:

I have my LSDJ manual printed out and in a 3-hole punch binder. smile

]]> https://chipmusic.org/Russellian 2012-06-25T02:31:15Z https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/115331/#p115331 <![CDATA[Re: Sweep, shape, and pulse command mysteries]]> Yeah, me and my associate, Mr. The sky is black not blue, will be here to assist you. Because apparently we're experts.

]]> https://chipmusic.org/Auxcide 2012-06-25T02:22:37Z https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/115329/#p115329 <![CDATA[Re: Sweep, shape, and pulse command mysteries]]> Also when using commands if you double tap a on a command it tells you what the command does smile

]]> https://chipmusic.org/The+Sky+Is+Black+Not+Blue 2012-06-25T02:21:36Z https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/115328/#p115328