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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: [LSDJ] Reproducing two sounds]]></title>
			<link rel="alternate" href="https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/117194/#p117194"/>
			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>Art-Z wrote:</cite><blockquote><div class="quotebox"><cite>SketchMan3 wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Also... this is a troll, right? Because he definitely explains how to do it IN THE VIDEO right after he plays it.</p></blockquote></div><br /><p>No, he doesn&#039;t. he tries to do that, but he can&#039;t so he says &quot;Ok, fuck it. Let&#039;s talk about arpeggios.&quot;</p><p>I tried to reproduce this on my own, but sound is very thin.</p></blockquote></div><p>Oh. My bad.</p><br /><p>I wonder if he couldn&#039;t have just gone into the instrument screen and looked at it instead of trying to remake it from scratch. </p><p>Anyway... yeah, use Q. That&#039;ll give you some overtones.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[SketchMan3]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/SketchMan3</uri>
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			<updated>2012-07-02T14:19:44Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: [LSDJ] Reproducing two sounds]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>Art-Z wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>HI,<br />I will post this here, cause my question is about reproducing sound but it&#039;s sound made in LSDJ.<br /><a href="http://vimeo.com/13240905" target="_blank">http://vimeo.com/13240905</a> at ~27:30 he shows a nice sound which sounds like 2 instrument played at the same time with only one WAV note at once. Does anyone have idea how to make magic like this one happen?</p></blockquote></div><p>You can do this using a squarewave with Q set kinda high, anywhere between 5 and A is nice imo.<br />Set the play mode to manual and mess around with the cutoff number until you like how the overtone matches up the fundamental note. The higher the Q the louder the overtone will be.</p><p>You can also just use graph paper to work out what a basic waveform would look like with an octave or two added. Some of my favourite wav sounds can only be drawn by hand.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Victory Road]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/Victory+Road</uri>
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			<updated>2012-07-02T13:33:33Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: [LSDJ] Reproducing two sounds]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>SketchMan3 wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Also... this is a troll, right? Because he definitely explains how to do it IN THE VIDEO right after he plays it.</p></blockquote></div><br /><p>No, he doesn&#039;t. he tries to do that, but he can&#039;t so he says &quot;Ok, fuck it. Let&#039;s talk about arpeggios.&quot;</p><p>I tried to reproduce this on my own, but sound is very thin.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Art-Z]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/Art-Z</uri>
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			<updated>2012-07-02T11:50:48Z</updated>
			<id>https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/117180/#p117180</id>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: [LSDJ] Reproducing two sounds]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Lol. I&#039;ve been trying to make my wav basses loud WITHOUT the extra harmonic note playing above it.</p><p>haha I gave up because many of the classic NES and GB basses have that anyway.</p><p>Also... this is a troll, right? Because he definitely explains how to do it IN THE VIDEO right after he plays it.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[SketchMan3]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/SketchMan3</uri>
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			<updated>2012-07-02T00:47:07Z</updated>
			<id>https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/117097/#p117097</id>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: [LSDJ] Reproducing two sounds]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>HI,<br />I will post this here, cause my question is about reproducing sound but it&#039;s sound made in LSDJ.<br /><a href="http://vimeo.com/13240905" target="_blank">http://vimeo.com/13240905</a> at ~27:30 he shows a nice sound which sounds like 2 instrument played at the same time with only one WAV note at once. Does anyone have idea how to make magic like this one happen?</p><p>PS - Sorry if I posted it in wrong thread / subforum - I will create a new one if needed.</p>]]></content>
			<author>
				<name><![CDATA[Art-Z]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/Art-Z</uri>
			</author>
			<updated>2012-07-02T00:24:42Z</updated>
			<id>https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/117089/#p117089</id>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: [LSDJ] Reproducing two sounds]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>Aeros wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>frostbyte confirmed for WAV channel god. that is all.</p></blockquote></div><p>Mucho appreciated-o!</p>]]></content>
			<author>
				<name><![CDATA[Frostbyte]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/Frostbyte</uri>
			</author>
			<updated>2012-06-28T16:56:44Z</updated>
			<id>https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/116399/#p116399</id>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: [LSDJ] Reproducing two sounds]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>@roboctopus: yes. sry, I missed the &quot;disco&quot; <img src="https://chipmusic.org/forums/img/smilies/wink.png" width="15" height="15" alt="wink" /></p>]]></content>
			<author>
				<name><![CDATA[chipnchap]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/chipnchap</uri>
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			<updated>2012-06-28T16:31:38Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: [LSDJ] Reproducing two sounds]]></title>
			<link rel="alternate" href="https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/116391/#p116391"/>
			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>frostbyte confirmed for WAV channel god. that is all.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Aeros]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/Aeros</uri>
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			<updated>2012-06-28T16:12:29Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: [LSDJ] Reproducing two sounds]]></title>
			<link rel="alternate" href="https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/116382/#p116382"/>
			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>@chipnchap - Are you talking about &quot;In Space No One Can Hear You Disco&quot;?!?</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[roboctopus]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/roboctopus</uri>
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			<updated>2012-06-28T15:10:11Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: [LSDJ] Reproducing two sounds]]></title>
			<link rel="alternate" href="https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/116282/#p116282"/>
			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>@Frostbyte: you are on Bandcamp - nice, so I can buy your ep&#039;s</p><p>@roboctopus: already saw your tut&#039;s on noisecannel and tried all on &#039;em - very nice. <br />FrostBytes hint to use the F cmd to change the waveform was something I didn&#039;t knew before (although lsdj shows it) - how do ppl say? RTFM, aight? <img src="https://chipmusic.org/forums/img/smilies/wink.png" width="15" height="15" alt="wink" /> <br />Btw: your &quot;in space no-one can hear you&quot; is one of (only!) 5 elements on my desktop - love it! Sad, you lost it in the 4bit nirvana..</p>]]></content>
			<author>
				<name><![CDATA[chipnchap]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/chipnchap</uri>
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			<updated>2012-06-28T04:14:00Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: [LSDJ] Reproducing two sounds]]></title>
			<link rel="alternate" href="https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/116174/#p116174"/>
			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, honestly, I could have made it a lot more in depth (using all the waves available to make a nice, slow modulating one). </p><p>Roboctopus does way more PWM than I do, he&#039;s the REAL man for the job <img src="https://chipmusic.org/forums/img/smilies/wink.png" width="15" height="15" alt="wink" /></p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Frostbyte]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/Frostbyte</uri>
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			<updated>2012-06-27T23:30:20Z</updated>
			<id>https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/116174/#p116174</id>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: [LSDJ] Reproducing two sounds]]></title>
			<link rel="alternate" href="https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/116168/#p116168"/>
			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>I have a tutorial devoted to LSDJ PWM if you want something more in-depth:&nbsp; <a href="http://www.noisechannel.org/posts/4691" target="_blank">http://www.noisechannel.org/posts/4691</a></p><p>You should be able to play with the synth settings and that patch to get the sound you&#039;re after.</p><p>Set up the PWM patch, set the synth to play &quot;once&quot; and alter the speed/length to vary the PWM.</p><p>If you want to have the volume decrease as the PWM narrows you can use either E commands in the phrase or alter the amplitude of the PWM in the wave screen, lowering it by degrees frame-by-frame.</p>]]></content>
			<author>
				<name><![CDATA[roboctopus]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/roboctopus</uri>
			</author>
			<updated>2012-06-27T23:17:35Z</updated>
			<id>https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/116168/#p116168</id>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: [LSDJ] Reproducing two sounds]]></title>
			<link rel="alternate" href="https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/116167/#p116167"/>
			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>It just seems silly when you&#039;re trying to recreate an instrument with higher bits, but if it sounds best alright.</p>]]></content>
			<author>
				<name><![CDATA[.exe]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/.exe</uri>
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			<updated>2012-06-27T23:17:29Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: [LSDJ] Reproducing two sounds]]></title>
			<link rel="alternate" href="https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/116164/#p116164"/>
			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Chips! Just wait until my next two EPs are released, I&#039;m talking like TREYFREY status programming on these things <img src="https://chipmusic.org/forums/img/smilies/wink.png" width="15" height="15" alt="wink" /> </p><p>.exe, F commands manually change the wave that is being used by the instrument. You could change the playback settings in the instrument itself by using pingpong or loop or whatever, but I figured since I&#039;m already using a table for the simulated envelope, I might as well just use F commands to make it modulate the pulse width smoother with the volume decay.</p>]]></content>
			<author>
				<name><![CDATA[Frostbyte]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/Frostbyte</uri>
			</author>
			<updated>2012-06-27T23:07:09Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: [LSDJ] Reproducing two sounds]]></title>
			<link rel="alternate" href="https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/116154/#p116154"/>
			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Why are you using F commands?</p>]]></content>
			<author>
				<name><![CDATA[.exe]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/.exe</uri>
			</author>
			<updated>2012-06-27T23:00:52Z</updated>
			<id>https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/116154/#p116154</id>
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