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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: DMG-04 Hardware Variations & Pin Swap Difficulties]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, if you could find generic multi-cables that have both the DMG and CGB head and a full pinout, that would be the primo keyboard cable for sure.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Telerophon]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/Telerophon</uri>
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			<updated>2012-07-04T01:10:01Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: DMG-04 Hardware Variations & Pin Swap Difficulties]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>I just get generic multi-link cables. They almost always have 6 pins and 6 wires. Cheaper than a DMG-07 by far.<br />Just use a multimeter of some sort to figure out which wire is which pin.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[thursdaycustoms]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/thursdaycustoms</uri>
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			<updated>2012-07-04T00:31:51Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: DMG-04 Hardware Variations & Pin Swap Difficulties]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>kineticturtle wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>DMG-07s are rare?</p></blockquote></div><p>Well I for one have never even seen/heard of anything about the 07&#039;s until I came to this website haha.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[GoingHam]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/GoingHam</uri>
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			<updated>2012-07-03T17:57:09Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: DMG-04 Hardware Variations & Pin Swap Difficulties]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>DMG-07s are rare?</p><p>You can build an entire arduinoboy into a DMG-07 btw, looks super classy.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[kineticturtle]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/kineticturtle</uri>
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			<updated>2012-07-03T14:24:47Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: DMG-04 Hardware Variations & Pin Swap Difficulties]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>I found my old thread I started a while back talking about DMG 04, pin swapping, and LSDJ versions.<br />This should help you out a bit : <a href="http://chipmusic.org/forums/topic/6698/lsdj-keyboard-help-please/" target="_blank">http://chipmusic.org/forums/topic/6698/ &#133; lp-please/</a></p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[GoingHam]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/GoingHam</uri>
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			<updated>2012-07-03T12:22:39Z</updated>
			<id>https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/117407/#p117407</id>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: DMG-04 Hardware Variations & Pin Swap Difficulties]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>I had three DMG-07s and decided against using them, because I really hate destroying rarer hardware.</p><p>Also, these link cables are cheaper and you get two adapters/keyboard cables out of one.</p><p>None of that is to disqualify your input, which is certainly valid. What was the debate? I&#039;m not sure why the re-pinning method wouldn&#039;t work… it&#039;s not like the fifth (ground) contact in the DMG-07 cable actually goes to anything inside the keyboard when you use one of those instead.</p><p>As for the jeweler&#039;s screwdriver thing, the smallest ones I have a 1.2mm diameter flatheads, and they were still too big to depress this style of pin on each side. <img src="https://chipmusic.org/forums/img/smilies/hmm.png" width="15" height="15" alt="hmm" /></p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Telerophon]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/Telerophon</uri>
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			<updated>2012-07-03T08:35:33Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: DMG-04 Hardware Variations & Pin Swap Difficulties]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>I think I ran into this before once or twice, I just used a small Flathead to release the clippys.<br />From what I&#039;ve read there has been much debate on the DMG 04 cables for attachment in keyboard modifying.<br />All I am saying is that it&#039;d save you a lot of time and frustration to acquire a mystical DMG 07 (I have yet to try this ever though, just two DMG 04 wires at least one with the pin swap method)</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[GoingHam]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/GoingHam</uri>
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			<updated>2012-07-03T08:09:39Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: DMG-04 Hardware Variations & Pin Swap Difficulties]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Well, I finally got that pin situation figured out on the other end of that cable.</p><p>From what I can tell, the two slots on the top of the cable body are accesses for a pair of microtweezers to spring the barbs that keep it captive in the plug body. So, instead of pressing them out with a jewelers screwdriver, one would ideally use a pair of tweezers smaller than I have to squeeze the two sides of the pin – I ended up using bent staples. Really.</p><p>When I got it out, I took another picture to illustrate what I mean:</p><p><a class="postimg" href="http://stolenti.me/chip/DMG-04-3.JPG" title="DMG-04 Pin, Profile View" id="forum_image_19760277"><img src="http://stolenti.me/chip/DMG-04-3.JPG" /></a></p><p>By the time I finally got this one out of there, I&#039;d bent the pin in such a way that it wouldn&#039;t spring back and stay in the new slot. I had to carefully bend the barbs that hold it in place back out a wee bit, and then it stayed in its new slot.</p><p>So, there you have it: One weird hardware variation on the DMG-04 Link Cable. Modders Beware!</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Telerophon]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/Telerophon</uri>
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			<updated>2012-07-03T07:54:50Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[DMG-04 Hardware Variations & Pin Swap Difficulties]]></title>
			<link rel="alternate" href="https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/117264/#p117264"/>
			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>So, after finishing my LSDj Keyboard the other week, I&#039;ve embarked on my quest to build PS/2 to DMG adapters, which is relatively simple in theory. I chose to use DMG-04 cables and to <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/trash80/sets/72157608324137185/" target="_blank">swap the pins using Trash80&#039;s method</a>.</p><p>However, when I got my cable apart, I found something anomalous:</p><p><a class="postimg" href="http://stolenti.me/chip/DMG-04-1.JPG" title="DMG-04: Disassembled" id="forum_image_77986733"><img src="http://stolenti.me/chip/DMG-04-1.JPG" /></a></p><p><a class="postimg" href="http://stolenti.me/chip/DMG-04-2.JPG" title="DMG-04: Pin Exposed" id="forum_image_23855158"><img src="http://stolenti.me/chip/DMG-04-2.JPG" /></a></p><p>As you can see, these don&#039;t match the <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/trash80/2968828392/in/set-72157608324137185" target="_blank">plug body</a> and <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/trash80/2967983911/in/set-72157608324137185/" target="_blank">pin design</a> from the DMG-04 used in Trash80&#039;s demonstration.</p><p>Anyway, I&#039;ve managed to complete one of these, but I&#039;m having a lot of trouble getting the pin to release on the second (the other end of the same cable). I had to cut part of the plastic bridge over the pin slots away to even be able to depress the pins.</p><p>This raises some questions:<br /></p><ul><li><p>Has anyone else encountered this DMG-04 hardware variation before?</p></li><li><p>If so, what were your experiences?</p></li><li><p><em><strong>How the fuck do I get this pin out?!</strong></em></p></li></ul>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Telerophon]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/Telerophon</uri>
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			<updated>2012-07-02T19:13:34Z</updated>
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