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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>balloonbear wrote:</cite><blockquote><div class="quotebox"><cite>pixls wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>That 2-prong/3-prong grounder thing would be totally pointless for him, if anyone took a second to notice he&#039;s in RUSSIA they don&#039;t have the same power outlets so showing him a thing designed for US power outlets is pointless.</p></blockquote></div><p>YAY. YOU FIRST MAN WHO TOTALLY RIGHT ABOUT OUTLETS!</p></blockquote></div><p>Yeah. Well... that&#039;s not the REASON I said I couldn&#039;t see how it&#039;d be useful for you... but I did say that it wouldn&#039;t be of any use for you.</p><p>I see. You were trying to say &quot;I don&#039;t have that kind of outlet here&quot;. Gotcha.</p><p>So... I guess... no more talk about the grounder thing. <img src="https://chipmusic.org/forums/img/smilies/neutral.png" width="15" height="15" alt="neutral" /></p><p>Just one last tip so I&#039;m not totally useless: Be sure, if you&#039;re using microphones, to position it away from the computer so it doesn&#039;t pick up the noise of the computer fans and stuff.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[SketchMan3]]></name>
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			<updated>2012-07-13T21:35:03Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>pixls wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>That 2-prong/3-prong grounder thing would be totally pointless for him, if anyone took a second to notice he&#039;s in RUSSIA they don&#039;t have the same power outlets so showing him a thing designed for US power outlets is pointless.</p></blockquote></div><p>YAY. YOU FIRST MAN WHO TOTALLY RIGHT ABOUT OUTLETS!</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[balloonbear]]></name>
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			<updated>2012-07-13T20:19:14Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: I want to buy external audio interface. Need advice!]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>pixls wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>That 2-prong/3-prong grounder thing would be totally pointless for him, if anyone took a second to notice he&#039;s in RUSSIA they don&#039;t have the same power outlets so showing him a thing designed for US power outlets is pointless.</p></blockquote></div><p>I was just about to tell him this.<br />I was explaing the plug and groundloops to the others that asked <img src="https://chipmusic.org/forums/img/smilies/wink.png" width="15" height="15" alt="wink" /></p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2012-07-13T20:10:56Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: I want to buy external audio interface. Need advice!]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>That 2-prong/3-prong grounder thing would be totally pointless for him, if anyone took a second to notice he&#039;s in RUSSIA they don&#039;t have the same power outlets so showing him a thing designed for US power outlets is pointless.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[pixls]]></name>
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			<updated>2012-07-13T20:09:43Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: I want to buy external audio interface. Need advice!]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>dsv101 wrote:</cite><blockquote><div class="quotebox"><cite>SketchMan3 wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>I mean a power outlet. Thing you plug your a power cord into to get power to the device.</p><p>So, like I said, I don&#039;t see how that would help. How does removing the ground help with grounding? And is it possible to ground a device with only a two prong power cord?</p></blockquote></div><p>Well...&quot;The ground slot and the neutral slot of an outlet are identical. That is, if you go back to the fuse box, you will find that the neutral and ground wires from all of the outlets go to the same place. They all connect to ground (see How Power Distribution Grids Work for details on grounding). Since they both go to the same place, why do you need both?...&quot;</p><p><a href="http://electronics.howstuffworks.com/everyday-tech/question110.htm" target="_blank">http://electronics.howstuffworks.com/ev &#133; ion110.htm</a></p><p>Edit, read more, because my quote sounds like you dont need ground <img src="https://chipmusic.org/forums/img/smilies/big_smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="big_smile" /> You do to prevent shock on devices where the enclousre is metal/connected to ground.</p></blockquote></div><p>Mabye my english very bad, but I still can&#039;t understand how to use this thing</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2012-07-13T20:06:55Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Articles like this:<br /> <a href="http://www.newton.dep.anl.gov/askasci/eng99/eng99634.htm" target="_blank">www.newton.dep.anl.gov/askasci/eng99/eng99634.htm</a></p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2012-07-13T20:06:09Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>4mat wrote:</cite><blockquote><div class="quotebox"><cite>balloonbear wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>But what the pirce?</p></blockquote></div><p>varies between models, about 30 uk pounds.</p></blockquote></div><p>thanks a lot Mr.4mat <img src="https://chipmusic.org/forums/img/smilies/smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="smile" /></p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2012-07-13T20:03:48Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Just type in &quot;electrical ground and audio devices&quot; into Google.<br />Not trying to pass the buck, just that I can&#039;t think of the right way to describe the ground&#039;s influence on audio.</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2012-07-13T20:03:44Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: I want to buy external audio interface. Need advice!]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>balloonbear wrote:</cite><blockquote><div class="quotebox"><cite>4mat wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>if you&#039;re just using it for chip/tracker music (and maybe an input from a mixer) something like the Behringer U-Control series would probably do. (I got a UCA202 to use with the netbook at Blip2011, thanks Akira for the recommendation)&nbsp; USB, RCA jacks in/out, headphone socket, works fine with ASIO4ALL too if you need small latency in a DAW.</p></blockquote></div><p>But what the pirce?</p></blockquote></div><p>varies between models, about 30 uk pounds.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[4mat]]></name>
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			<updated>2012-07-13T20:01:40Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>SketchMan3 wrote:</cite><blockquote><div class="quotebox"><cite>balloonbear wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>I think i don&#039;t have ane outlet here</p></blockquote></div><p>I mean a power outlet. Thing you plug your a power cord into to get power to the device.</p><p>So, like I said, I don&#039;t see how that would help. How does removing the ground help with grounding? And is it possible to ground a device with only a two prong power cord?</p></blockquote></div><p>Well...&quot;The ground slot and the neutral slot of an outlet are identical. That is, if you go back to the fuse box, you will find that the neutral and ground wires from all of the outlets go to the same place. They all connect to ground (see How Power Distribution Grids Work for details on grounding). Since they both go to the same place, why do you need both?...&quot;</p><p><a href="http://electronics.howstuffworks.com/everyday-tech/question110.htm" target="_blank">http://electronics.howstuffworks.com/ev &#133; ion110.htm</a></p><p>Edit, read more, because my quote sounds like you dont need ground <img src="https://chipmusic.org/forums/img/smilies/big_smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="big_smile" /> You do to prevent shock on devices where the enclousre is metal/connected to ground.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[dsv101]]></name>
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			<updated>2012-07-13T19:57:53Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>SketchMan3 wrote:</cite><blockquote><div class="quotebox"><cite>balloonbear wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>I think i don&#039;t have ane outlet here</p></blockquote></div><p>I mean a power outlet. Thing you plug your a power cord into to get power to the device.</p><p>So, like I said, I don&#039;t see how that would help. How does removing the ground help with grounding? And is it possible to ground a device with only a two prong power cord?</p></blockquote></div><p>Card inside, and i really don&#039;t want to disassemble my laptop like a lego constructor. But i thoughtn that external audio card would help</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2012-07-13T19:55:03Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>balloonbear wrote:</cite><blockquote><div class="quotebox"><cite>SketchMan3 wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>This thing allows you to plug a three-prong plug into a two-prong outlet. I don&#039;t see how that would help, though...</p></blockquote></div><p>I think i don&#039;t have ane outlet here</p></blockquote></div><p>I mean a power outlet. Thing you plug your a power cord into to get power to the device.</p><p>So, like I said, I don&#039;t see how that would help. How does removing the ground help with grounding? And is it possible to ground a device with only a two prong power cord?</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2012-07-13T19:47:04Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>SketchMan3 wrote:</cite><blockquote><div class="quotebox"><cite>balloonbear wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>I dont even kniw how to use it wit y laptop</p></blockquote></div><p>This thing allows you to plug a three-prong plug into a two-prong outlet. I don&#039;t see how that would help, though...</p></blockquote></div><p>I think i don&#039;t have ane outlet here</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2012-07-13T19:41:06Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>I have mini TRS on my GB</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[balloonbear]]></name>
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			<updated>2012-07-13T19:40:17Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>balloonbear wrote:</cite><blockquote><div class="quotebox"><cite>dsv101 wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Its a grounding (cheater) plug: <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cheater_plug" target="_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cheater_plug</a></p><p>EDIT: &quot;Cheater plugs are also used to break ground loops in audio systems.[4] This practice has been condemned as disregarding electrical safety.[4][5] An alternative is to use an isolation transformer made specifically for this purpose.&quot;</p></blockquote></div><p>I dont even kniw how to use it wit y laptop</p></blockquote></div><p>This thing allows you to plug a three-prong plug into a two-prong outlet. I don&#039;t see how that would help, though...</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2012-07-13T19:39:46Z</updated>
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