ChipMusic.org - Any good alternatives to LSDJ or Nanoloop?

Re: Any good alternatives to LSDJ or Nanoloop?

2012-10-01T13:13:10Z

Get renoise, download bunch of tracker food, make $$$

Re: Any good alternatives to LSDJ or Nanoloop?

2012-10-01T12:25:13Z

Telerophon wrote:

Agreed. I found the Paragon5 readme to be pretty useful.
Most trackers use the function keys, F1-F12, as the main operations keys, and I recall Paragon5 being similar.
That said, I've since realized that Paragon5 doesn't seem to have an export function, which I always thought it did…
There's apparently another tracker called BoyScout, although I don't personally know much about it.

I read through the readme, and learned the functions and everything. I guess I'll just have to read a bit more closely, because I still can't figure out how to load an example song, though the directory is pointing to the right place.. CTRL+R just brings up a blank box. Maybe I should've started a new thread... hm...

Edit: Okay, nvm, I must have moved the folder after it was all unzipped and configured, so the directories weren't setup up correctly. derp

Re: Any good alternatives to LSDJ or Nanoloop?

2012-10-01T12:17:57Z

Agreed. I found the Paragon5 readme to be pretty useful.

Most trackers use the function keys, F1-F12, as the main operations keys, and I recall Paragon5 being similar.

That said, I've since realized that Paragon5 doesn't seem to have an export function, which I always thought it did…

There's apparently another tracker called BoyScout, although I don't personally know much about it.

Re: Any good alternatives to LSDJ or Nanoloop?

2012-10-01T11:57:50Z

Aeros wrote:

we just need something in the site that says "LEVEL xx THREAD NECROMANCY!" when you bump a thread 2 months old or older

I didn't think it was worth starting a new thread.

Re: Any good alternatives to LSDJ or Nanoloop?

2012-10-01T04:26:36Z

Aeros wrote:

we just need something in the site that says "LEVEL xx THREAD NECROMANCY!" when you bump a thread 2 months old or older

Not if someone's adding to the conversation. Sketch asked if there was a guide around. I think that's more-or-less reason for a bump.

Re: Any good alternatives to LSDJ or Nanoloop?

2012-10-01T04:16:26Z

we just need something in the site that says "LEVEL xx THREAD NECROMANCY!" when you bump a thread 2 months old or older

Re: Any good alternatives to LSDJ or Nanoloop?

2012-10-01T03:54:58Z

ableton

Re: Any good alternatives to LSDJ or Nanoloop?

2012-10-01T03:30:01Z

Telerophon wrote:

I can't for the life of me figure out Paragon5.
Maybe it's because LSDj is the first tracker I've attempted to learn. I pretend I'm going to learn ModPlug and Famitracker, but…

Yeah. I've been wanting to fiddle around with Paragon5, but I can't even figure out how to get the keyboard working to enter notes (though I can navigate through screens and fields), or even how to load one of the included example songs (when I hit CTRL+R nothing shows). If somebody could come up with a quick starters guide, that'd be great (ellipsis)

Re: Any good alternatives to LSDJ or Nanoloop?

2012-08-07T15:20:04Z

btw that example is a really awful & impractical groove/tempo BUT tl;dr sequencer & sheet music terms are not always synonymous!

Re: Any good alternatives to LSDJ or Nanoloop?

2012-08-07T15:08:54Z

depending on the groove and tempo you use though you can kinda mess with it a bit... D/3/5/3 at 60bpm is like a slightly swung country waltz feel where four 16th steps in the sequencer are in the space of three 8th notes on paper

Re: Any good alternatives to LSDJ or Nanoloop?

2012-08-07T15:04:42Z

yeah but if you are in 4/4 there is a certain number of beats in a certain amount of time per BPM you have chose. it's not "whatever you want"

oh well i guess it isn't important

Re: Any good alternatives to LSDJ or Nanoloop?

2012-08-07T15:02:18Z

they can be whatever kind of note you want depending on how you write the whole piece or how you group the phrases
i guess they ARE 16th notes technically, since there are 16 in total inside a phrase, which is sort of the equivalent of a bar but not really.

Re: Any good alternatives to LSDJ or Nanoloop?

2012-08-07T13:42:41Z

the rows in lsdj by default are 16th notes surely?

i don't have lsdj right now handy but if anyone wants to confirm or unconfirm by counting beats that would be cool

i always put 4 kicks in a phrase if i was going for a 4x4 beat, don't you?

Re: Any good alternatives to LSDJ or Nanoloop?

2012-08-07T13:32:44Z

nanoloop manual wrote:

Nanoloop 1.3 is a stepsequencer, which means that a loop of 16 1/16 notes is played repeatedly while these notes can be edited in various respects like volume, pitch, etc. There are four channels, playing simultaneously.

just because the interface is a 4*4 matrix doesn't mean your music has to be 4/4

Re: Any good alternatives to LSDJ or Nanoloop?

2012-08-07T00:59:44Z

Yeah, I didn't even realize that a single phrase/block with sixteen steps in LSDj wasn't equivalent to a 4/4 measure with 16th note subdivision until I started playing with groove settings to create swing, and I wasn't hearing it swing on my most syncopated bits.

Then, I was like "oh each step is an eighth note, whaaaat."

Haha, "percussionists." I was always known for both being terrible, and being that one guy who played Keiko Abe traditional four-mallet grip instead of Burton or Musser grip. I miss Marimba now. Oh well.