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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: ATARI 65XE..programs music same as commodore 64?]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>iLKke&gt; <a href="http://atariarea.krap.pl/slightsid/" target="_blank">http://atariarea.krap.pl/slightsid/</a> Yes you can!</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Tinctu]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/Tinctu</uri>
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			<updated>2012-09-18T08:12:48Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: ATARI 65XE..programs music same as commodore 64?]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>check out this as well: <a href="http://www.atarimax.com/sio2pc/documentation/" target="_blank">http://www.atarimax.com/sio2pc/documentation/</a></p><p>if you use OS X: <a href="http://www.atarimac.com/sio2osx.php" target="_blank">http://www.atarimac.com/sio2osx.php</a></p><p>(i use this setup with my 800xl)</p><br /><br /><br /><p>if you can read any german, this is a great resource as well for atari 8bit: <a href="http://www.abbuc.de/" target="_blank">http://www.abbuc.de/</a></p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[kitsch]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/kitsch</uri>
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			<updated>2012-09-13T17:23:55Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>i will be very, very sure to upload some atari 65xe tunes in the future..</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[ghastlyglitter]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/ghastlyglitter</uri>
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			<updated>2012-09-13T17:21:12Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: ATARI 65XE..programs music same as commodore 64?]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>gah! you guys are the greatest! got the answers i need- thanks a ton : ) </p><p>i ordered one of these bad boys so that i can just use an sd card to load up trackers (it has been hard to find a floppy drive for the 65xe)<br /><a href="http://www.nightfallcrew.com/wp-content/gallery/unboxing-sio2sd-interface-by-pigula/IMG_5665.jpg" target="_blank">http://www.nightfallcrew.com/wp-content &#133; G_5665.jpg</a></p><p>many, many thanks. <br />gg</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[ghastlyglitter]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/ghastlyglitter</uri>
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			<updated>2012-09-13T17:18:47Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: ATARI 65XE..programs music same as commodore 64?]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>martin_demsky wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Oh sorry, never knew that <img src="https://chipmusic.org/forums/img/smilies/smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="smile" /> I thought Atari ST was on same level (YM-chip) as AY-3-8912 in Speccy 128k and i never heard any sound from that Atari XE.</p></blockquote></div><p>Check this out ! <img src="https://chipmusic.org/forums/img/smilies/smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="smile" /><br /><a href="http://asma.atari.org/" target="_blank">http://asma.atari.org/</a></p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[XyNo]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/XyNo</uri>
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			<updated>2012-09-13T13:41:52Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: ATARI 65XE..programs music same as commodore 64?]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>Tinctu wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>WTF 1bit &quot;speaker&quot; or &quot;nothing extra&quot;???</p><p>Atari got 4 channels with stereo upgrade you have 8 channels.<br />And sounds beautiful, sounds are like on NES or GAMEBOY, ATARI ST.<br />Atari 65XE is ATARI 800XE...</p><p>ATARI POKEY soundchip YOUTUBE:<br /><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vAZkiR7MV3s" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vAZkiR7MV3s</a></p><p>WIKI:<br /><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/POKEY" target="_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/POKEY</a></p><p>DATASHEET:<br /><a href="http://www.retromicro.com/files/atari/8bit/pokey.pdf" target="_blank">http://www.retromicro.com/files/atari/8bit/pokey.pdf</a></p><p>STEREO UPGRADE<br /><a href="http://raster.infos.cz/atari/hw/stereo/stereoen.htm" target="_blank">http://raster.infos.cz/atari/hw/stereo/stereoen.htm</a></p><p>SD CARD DRIVE<br /><a href="http://raster.infos.cz/atari/hw/sdrive/sdriveen.htm" target="_blank">http://raster.infos.cz/atari/hw/sdrive/sdriveen.htm</a></p><p>RMT music tracker (PC)<br /><a href="http://raster.infos.cz/atari/rmt/rmt.htm" target="_blank">http://raster.infos.cz/atari/rmt/rmt.htm</a></p><p>MPT tracker (XE)<br /><a href="http://grayscale.scene.pl/download/mpt24s.zip" target="_blank">http://grayscale.scene.pl/download/mpt24s.zip</a></p><p>TMC tracker (XE)<br /><a href="http://grayscale.scene.pl/download/thetamc.zip" target="_blank">http://grayscale.scene.pl/download/thetamc.zip</a></p><p>ATR tool<br /><a href="http://grayscale.scene.pl/download/atrutil113.zip" target="_blank">http://grayscale.scene.pl/download/atrutil113.zip</a></p><p>Stop talking shit on 8bit ATARIs!!!</p></blockquote></div><p>Oh sorry, never knew that <img src="https://chipmusic.org/forums/img/smilies/smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="smile" /> I thought Atari ST was on same level (YM-chip) as AY-3-8912 in Speccy 128k and i never heard any sound from that Atari XE.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[martin_demsky]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/martin_demsky</uri>
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			<updated>2012-09-13T12:47:28Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: ATARI 65XE..programs music same as commodore 64?]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>C64 and XL have different sound chips yes, but there&#039;s a broad similarity in the types of sound chips they have. (witness Rob Hubbard&#039;s work on both systems)&nbsp; On the Atari side the sound is a bit more &quot;harsh&quot; and you don&#039;t get filters, but they&#039;re both pretty nice chips to experiment with.</p><p>Both systems use a version of the 65xx processor so if you learn assembly on one you can adapt it for another.&nbsp; Personally I&#039;d say buy the c64 because there&#039;s a ton more editors and so on there, and the community is (arguably) more active.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[4mat]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/4mat</uri>
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			<updated>2012-09-13T12:26:14Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: ATARI 65XE..programs music same as commodore 64?]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Ahh, too bad.&nbsp; Its so pretty <img src="https://chipmusic.org/forums/img/smilies/wink.png" width="15" height="15" alt="wink" /></p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[egr]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/egr</uri>
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			<updated>2012-09-13T11:54:57Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: ATARI 65XE..programs music same as commodore 64?]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>egr wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>When anyone says Atari I think <a href="http://www.preromanbritain.com/maxymiser/" target="_blank">http://www.preromanbritain.com/maxymiser/</a></p><p>Don&#039;t know if yours can run it tho.</p></blockquote></div><p>Nope, this is an Atari ST tracker and he&#039;s talking about 8-bit atari computer (XE/XL)...not the same man ! <img src="https://chipmusic.org/forums/img/smilies/tongue.png" width="15" height="15" alt="tongue" /></p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[XyNo]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/XyNo</uri>
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			<updated>2012-09-13T11:36:12Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: ATARI 65XE..programs music same as commodore 64?]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>When anyone says Atari I think <a href="http://www.preromanbritain.com/maxymiser/" target="_blank">http://www.preromanbritain.com/maxymiser/</a></p><p>Don&#039;t know if yours can run it tho.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[egr]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/egr</uri>
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			<updated>2012-09-13T11:26:43Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: ATARI 65XE..programs music same as commodore 64?]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Commodore&#039;s SID chip is deservedly one of the most famous, if not THE most famous, 80s sound chip. Whatever your atari has in it, it&#039;s definitely not like SID.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[iLKke]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/iLKke</uri>
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			<updated>2012-09-13T11:07:17Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: ATARI 65XE..programs music same as commodore 64?]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>WTF 1bit &quot;speaker&quot; or &quot;nothing extra&quot;???</p><p>Atari got 4 channels with stereo upgrade you have 8 channels.<br />And sounds beautiful, sounds are like on NES or GAMEBOY, ATARI ST.<br />Atari 65XE is ATARI 800XE...</p><p>ATARI POKEY soundchip YOUTUBE:<br /><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vAZkiR7MV3s" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vAZkiR7MV3s</a></p><p>WIKI:<br /><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/POKEY" target="_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/POKEY</a></p><p>DATASHEET:<br /><a href="http://www.retromicro.com/files/atari/8bit/pokey.pdf" target="_blank">http://www.retromicro.com/files/atari/8bit/pokey.pdf</a></p><p>STEREO UPGRADE<br /><a href="http://raster.infos.cz/atari/hw/stereo/stereoen.htm" target="_blank">http://raster.infos.cz/atari/hw/stereo/stereoen.htm</a></p><p>SD CARD DRIVE<br /><a href="http://raster.infos.cz/atari/hw/sdrive/sdriveen.htm" target="_blank">http://raster.infos.cz/atari/hw/sdrive/sdriveen.htm</a></p><p>RMT music tracker (PC)<br /><a href="http://raster.infos.cz/atari/rmt/rmt.htm" target="_blank">http://raster.infos.cz/atari/rmt/rmt.htm</a></p><p>MPT tracker (XE)<br /><a href="http://grayscale.scene.pl/download/mpt24s.zip" target="_blank">http://grayscale.scene.pl/download/mpt24s.zip</a></p><p>TMC tracker (XE)<br /><a href="http://grayscale.scene.pl/download/thetamc.zip" target="_blank">http://grayscale.scene.pl/download/thetamc.zip</a></p><p>ATR tool<br /><a href="http://grayscale.scene.pl/download/atrutil113.zip" target="_blank">http://grayscale.scene.pl/download/atrutil113.zip</a></p><p>Stop talking shit on 8bit ATARIs!!!</p>]]></content>
			<author>
				<name><![CDATA[Tinctu]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/Tinctu</uri>
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			<updated>2012-09-13T11:01:58Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Arghhh, this was first ever Atari i saw at the computer programming club back in 1987. Afaik this has 1-bit speaker like Speccy 48k, so nothing extra.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[martin_demsky]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/martin_demsky</uri>
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			<updated>2012-09-13T07:52:28Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: ATARI 65XE..programs music same as commodore 64?]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>I wouldn&#039;t expect so. Th c64 has a different sound chip,l and the 65xe doesn&#039;t. Sorry!</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Chainsaw Police]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/Chainsaw+Police</uri>
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			<updated>2012-09-13T07:21:50Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>all of this speaking music-making-wise..</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[ghastlyglitter]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/ghastlyglitter</uri>
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			<updated>2012-09-13T07:04:56Z</updated>
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